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Quantrill, I think those things are sick... I have a past. I have direct descendant " Charles Autobees'" That cleared the way for homesteaders coming to Colorado by taking out the Native Americans which totally discusses me!!! My family is'nt about that... We live a Christian life...
You are so good.

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From the book (Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men, Jeffrey Rogers Hummel, Open Court Publishing, 1996, p. 116) comes this statement of Lincoln during the Lincoln/Douglas debates. The authors source is noted on p. 372 in endnote #15, which is The Lincoln Douglas Debates: The First Complete, Unexpurgated Text (New York: Harper-Collins, 1993), p. 189.

Douglas first says: "But for my own part, I do not regard the negro as my equal, and I positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever."

Lincoln responds: "I will say then, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way, the social and political eqalilty of the white and black races--that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters of the negroes, or jurors, or qualifying them to hold office, or having them to marry with white people.

"I will say in addition, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races, which I suppose,will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality[;] and as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white man."


From the same book: (p. 210) "Southerners of course did not throw down their arms, and the President issued the final Emancipation Proclamation at the beginning of 1863. But it technically freed no slaves. As a war measure similar to that of the British during the American Revolution, the proclamation only applied to the areas still in rebellion. It did not emancipate any of the slaves in the four border states. Nor did it emancipate any slaves in those sections of the Confederacy that Union armies had already reconquered, including all of Tennessee and large portions of Virginia and Louisiana.

"The only slaves covered were the ones beyond the reach of Union authority. This anomaly inspired a cynical retort from Seward. 'We show our sympathy with slavery,' he stated the day after the proclamation was issued, 'by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them, and holding them in bondage where we can set them free.'

"The London Spectator dismissed the proclamatin because it liberated 'the enemy's slaves as it would the enemy's cattle, simply to weaken them...The principle is not that a human being cannot justly own another, but that he cannot own him unless he is loyal to the United States."

The authors quote from the London Spectator he identifies in endnote #(14) p.378. It comes from (The Life of William H. Seward, Harper and Brothers, 1900, v. 2 p. 339.)

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oh ok, thanks for sharing,
 

I_am_Canadian

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I wasn't 'sharing'. You asked for sources and I gave them. 'Sharing' has also become such a queer term. You asked, and you were told.

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Honestly Quantrill, I have so many problems I really don't have time to worry about American History and debating useless facts that will never serve me any real purpose.
 
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Honestly Quantrill, I have so many problems I really don't have time to worry about American History and debating useless facts that will never serve me any real purpose.

Amen Canadian! Or anyone else that lives in the real world for that matter! LOL!
 

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Honestly Quantrill, I have so many problems I really don't have time to worry about American History and debating useless facts that will never serve me any real purpose.
Useless facts? Useless because they go against what you have been led to believe. That's fine, I don't expect you to know much about American history. I do expect Americans to know since ever since the War between the States the country has been built on lies.

Because it has been built on lies, we have now what we have. The old axiom is true. They who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

If debating useless facts is a problem to you, what are you doing on a forum?

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Useless facts? Useless because they go against what you have been led to believe. That's fine, I don't expect you to know much about American history. I do expect Americans to know since ever since the War between the States the country has been built on lies.

Because it has been built on lies, we have now what we have. The old axiom is true. They who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

If debating useless facts is a problem to you, what are you doing on a forum?

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So, why are you here if 'useless facts' are a problem to you also?

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I don't know Quantrill. Maybe people on this "Christian " Chat are here to seek the truth... lol...
 

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Well, maybe pay attention to some of those useless facts. If you don't like the subject matter, then stay out.

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Useless facts? Useless because they go against what you have been led to believe. That's fine, I don't expect you to know much about American history. I do expect Americans to know since ever since the War between the States the country has been built on lies.

Because it has been built on lies, we have now what we have. The old axiom is true. They who don't know history are bound to repeat it.

If debating useless facts is a problem to you, what are you doing on a forum?

Quantrill
No not at all, It's useless because I will probably never visit the US or move there, Compaired to the problems I have with my current situation
with social assistance, the place I live and my creditors, debating about Lincoln just does not matter, it's not a high priority.

It serves no purpose to finding work or paying off my creditors, or increasing my income to supply the basic necessities of life. Like groceries and clothing.

Because dude, ever since I was 13 the only social life I've had is online.
It's a result of getting bullied and picked on day after day in school on the play ground and in the classroom, and knowing there is not one person on earth including your parents who care about you or what you think or how you feel.

It's the result of isolating your self when your 8 years old because no one wants you at school and then going home to parents who don't want you.

If that is ok with you.
 
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No not at all, It's useless because I will probably never visit the US or move there, Compaired to the problems I have with my current situation
with social assistance, the place I live and my creditors, debating about Lincoln just does not matter, it's not a high priority.

It serves no purpose to finding work or paying off my creditors, or increasing my income to supply the basic necessities of life. Like groceries and clothing.

Because dude, ever since I was 13 the only social life I've had is online.
It's a result of getting bullied and picked on day after day in school on the play ground and in the classroom, and knowing there is not one person on earth including your parents who care about you or what you think or how you feel.

It's the result of isolating your self when your 8 years old because no one wants you at school and then going home to parents who don't want you.

If that is ok with you.
Sorry for your troubles Canadian... To repeat the old Cliche' " don't judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes" And for this I am Ashamed and embarrassed for anything that I said in the past that might have offended you... God Bless!
 

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No not at all, It's useless because I will probably never visit the US or move there, Compaired to the problems I have with my current situation
with social assistance, the place I live and my creditors, debating about Lincoln just does not matter, it's not a high priority.

It serves no purpose to finding work or paying off my creditors, or increasing my income to supply the basic necessities of life. Like groceries and clothing.

Because dude, ever since I was 13 the only social life I've had is online.
It's a result of getting bullied and picked on day after day in school on the play ground and in the classroom, and knowing there is not one person on earth including your parents who care about you or what you think or how you feel.

It's the result of isolating your self when your 8 years old because no one wants you at school and then going home to parents who don't want you.

If that is ok with you.
Of course it's ok with me. And I understand someone from another country not concerned over our history, as I said. But...even though you are Canadian, I believe your country is affected by our country. The US loves to push it's form of governing on everyone, every country in the world.

This American sense of 'democracy' is being cast all over the world. I saw on a PBS show yesterday, a representative from Hungry being interviewed by an American news woman. She was finding fault with Hungry because Hungry wouldn't let any immigrants into their country. Hungry has no immigration policy. So leftest liberal Americans and many other countries are pushing Hungry to change it's policy. They want all countries to be like them. But, if one knows the real history of America, we were never intended to be a democracy. We are a republic. A government by representation, not mass popularism, which is what democracy is.

No only did the American news woman attack Hungry's no immigration policy, but she attacked Hungry's no mult-culturalism policy. Hungry wants to keep it's own culture. It doesn't want multi-culturalism. And of course the American left just can't have that. Mexico can keep its 'rich' culture. Africans can go back to their 'glorious roots'. But don't let a country of white people want to maintain it's culture. The representative of Hungry simply told the newswoman to respect their decision as a people. He doesn't know the American left too well. They respect nothing but forcing their multiculturalism on everyone.

This is why today they continue to destroy the White Southern American's culture. But, as I have showed you with some historical facts, America has been operating on a lie they created. And they must maintain that lie. The South must always be seen as evil. Slavery must always be seen as evil. White people must always be seen as evil. Multi-culturalism must always be seen as good. Diversity must always be seen as good. White homogeneous society must always be seen as evil.

Sorry for your experiences in the past, especially having no one to help. Indeed our experiences, especially the bad ones, form us for our later years. And, as hard as it may sound, the Lord saw it all and was there. As Joseph said to his brothers, you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. (Gen. 50:20)

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Sorry for your troubles Canadian... To repeat the old Cliche' " don't judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes" And for this I am Ashamed and embarrassed for anything that I said in the past that might have offended you... God Bless!
It's ok, I do the samething sometimes too, It just makes us human.
sometimes a debate is just a way to fill time, even if its an issue I don't have much feeling for or know a whole lot about.
 

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Of course it's ok with me. And I understand someone from another country not concerned over our history, as I said. But...even though you are Canadian, I believe your country is affected by our country. The US loves to push it's form of governing on everyone, every country in the world.

This American sense of 'democracy' is being cast all over the world. I saw on a PBS show yesterday, a representative from Hungry being interviewed by an American news woman. She was finding fault with Hungry because Hungry wouldn't let any immigrants into their country. Hungry has no immigration policy. So leftest liberal Americans and many other countries are pushing Hungry to change it's policy. They want all countries to be like them. But, if one knows the real history of America, we were never intended to be a democracy. We are a republic. A government by representation, not mass popularism, which is what democracy is.

No only did the American news woman attack Hungry's no immigration policy, but she attacked Hungry's no mult-culturalism policy. Hungry wants to keep it's own culture. It doesn't want multi-culturalism. And of course the American left just can't have that. Mexico can keep its 'rich' culture. Africans can go back to their 'glorious roots'. But don't let a country of white people want to maintain it's culture. The representative of Hungry simply told the newswoman to respect their decision as a people. He doesn't know the American left too well. They respect nothing but forcing their multiculturalism on everyone.

This is why today they continue to destroy the White Southern American's culture. But, as I have showed you with some historical facts, America has been operating on a lie they created. And they must maintain that lie. The South must always be seen as evil. Slavery must always be seen as evil. White people must always be seen as evil. Multi-culturalism must always be seen as good. Diversity must always be seen as good. White homogeneous society must always be seen as evil.

Sorry for your experiences in the past, especially having no one to help. Indeed our experiences, especially the bad ones, form us for our later years. And, as hard as it may sound, the Lord saw it all and was there. As Joseph said to his brothers, you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. (Gen. 50:20)

Quantrill
ok, Ok see I had no idea about the issue with Hungary, Well I know about American leftists, what you call democrats we call liberals. I know, America pushes it's agenda on other countries, I watch a lot of Michael Moores Documentries and what I see him showing in America I see here in Canada, like the use temp agencies, accepting of immoral life styles,
Corporations who care nothing for people...

It's sad because Canada allows refugees in this country and they get $2,500.00 a month, me as a Canadian only get $1,162.00 on O.D.S.P.
if you read my last post you know that 70% of your income going to rent and bills isn't good,
 

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ok, Ok see I had no idea about the issue with Hungary, Well I know about American leftists, what you call democrats we call liberals. I know, America pushes it's agenda on other countries, I watch a lot of Michael Moores Documentries and what I see him showing in America I see here in Canada, like the use temp agencies, accepting of immoral life styles,
Corporations who care nothing for people...

It's sad because Canada allows refugees in this country and they get $2,500.00 a month, me as a Canadian only get $1,162.00 on O.D.S.P.
if you read my last post you know that 70% of your income going to rent and bills isn't good,
This is why a presentation of the truth of our history is necessary. It wasn't meant to be this way. And many Americans opposed this. But we are presented as the evil people now.

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ok, Ok see I had no idea about the issue with Hungary, Well I know about American leftists, what you call democrats we call liberals. I know, America pushes it's agenda on other countries, I watch a lot of Michael Moores Documentries and what I see him showing in America I see here in Canada, like the use temp agencies, accepting of immoral life styles,
Corporations who care nothing for people...

It's sad because Canada allows refugees in this country and they get $2,500.00 a month, me as a Canadian only get $1,162.00 on O.D.S.P.
if you read my last post you know that 70% of your income going to rent and bills isn't good,
That is ironic. Here in the U.S. That is the same exact amount Senior citizens get for retirement. Maybe that will change now that the U.S. does'nt allow any refugees in the country. Now the only thing they are promised if they try for status here is a bullet... lol...