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You are either ignorant, or so proud you refuse to even see what is going on.
If you have a person on ignore. You can not see or read anything from them. If you do not believe me, Ask anyone who has other people on ignore. I am confused alot because people post to someone others have on ignore. And they do not understand what they are saying because they can not see the origional quote being responded to.
Your post was open ended. I did not see who you quoted. Because everything that dude quotes is hidden from me UNLESS I hit a little thing at the bottom of the page which says “show ignored content” or that post is the LAST post in the thread, at whcih case the person is seen, but the post is hidden (and then you can say show ignored content)
Which I did AFTER you said you did not respond to me, which is HOW i was able to see who it was you responded to
You need to sit for a bit and actually set your pride aside.. Your making yourself look bad.
If you have a person on ignore. You can not see or read anything from them. If you do not believe me, Ask anyone who has other people on ignore. I am confused alot because people post to someone others have on ignore. And they do not understand what they are saying because they can not see the origional quote being responded to.
Your post was open ended. I did not see who you quoted. Because everything that dude quotes is hidden from me UNLESS I hit a little thing at the bottom of the page which says “show ignored content” or that post is the LAST post in the thread, at whcih case the person is seen, but the post is hidden (and then you can say show ignored content)
Which I did AFTER you said you did not respond to me, which is HOW i was able to see who it was you responded to
You need to sit for a bit and actually set your pride aside.. Your making yourself look bad.
Why be insulting just because I and others do not agree with you?
I see a lot of PRIDE on your end......pride of grace.
Why put KJV or anyone on ignore? If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
So you never did say how that post of mine ended up that you could view it........since you had KJV on ignore. I don't understand how that works because I don't use any ignore tools. Seems to me that none of KJV's post from OR to him could be viewed.
I see a lot of PRIDE on your end......pride of grace.
Why put KJV or anyone on ignore? If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
So you never did say how that post of mine ended up that you could view it........since you had KJV on ignore. I don't understand how that works because I don't use any ignore tools. Seems to me that none of KJV's post from OR to him could be viewed.
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Insulting? Do you read your own posts. Many people disagree with me, I could care less if you disagree with me. But when you make mistakes like you just did concerning my ability to see someone elses post. Well the truth hurts Call it insulting all you want, if the truth insults you. Then I can;t help you.
Can’t stand the heat?
if I could not stand the heat I would stop posting scripture and views and answer each persons argument point by point. Unlike others who seem to think they do not have to do this.
I put people on ignore who cut other people down, Who never have an argument, but attack and belittle people who do not agree with them. He contnually does this on the KJV only argiument, As others do with end times arguments (and like you have been doing to me all day)
If you want to continue to do this, You will end up there also.. I can only play childrens games so long before it is no longer worth it..
lolol.. Thanks, You continue to hurt yourself because you refuse to listen to people. All your out to do is look for things to attack them so you can not see when people do the very thing you claim they have never done..
So again, Sit. Let go of your pride. Take the log out of your eye, so you can see what other people say, And you will stop making such eronious mistakes which hurt your cause, not help you
And It would greatly help yourself if you can appoligize for making false claims.
Can’t stand the heat?
if I could not stand the heat I would stop posting scripture and views and answer each persons argument point by point. Unlike others who seem to think they do not have to do this.
I put people on ignore who cut other people down, Who never have an argument, but attack and belittle people who do not agree with them. He contnually does this on the KJV only argiument, As others do with end times arguments (and like you have been doing to me all day)
If you want to continue to do this, You will end up there also.. I can only play childrens games so long before it is no longer worth it..
lolol.. Thanks, You continue to hurt yourself because you refuse to listen to people. All your out to do is look for things to attack them so you can not see when people do the very thing you claim they have never done..
So again, Sit. Let go of your pride. Take the log out of your eye, so you can see what other people say, And you will stop making such eronious mistakes which hurt your cause, not help you
And It would greatly help yourself if you can appoligize for making false claims.
If it was literal weeks, it wouldnt match anything even close to Jesus' first coming.
What if other prophetic things are like that too? That its always a day -> 365 days. That would be almost to the time of reformation for 1290 days.
Seems far fetched. Im not buying it.
I believe the 1335th day and 1290 days corrrelate with THE END OF HISTORY as we know it. Otherwise we would now be on overtime. "prophetic limbo" so to speak.
What if other prophetic things are like that too? That its always a day -> 365 days. That would be almost to the time of reformation for 1290 days.
Seems far fetched. Im not buying it.
I believe the 1335th day and 1290 days corrrelate with THE END OF HISTORY as we know it. Otherwise we would now be on overtime. "prophetic limbo" so to speak.
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If we take the date of the command to restor jerusalem. And ad 69 weeks of years (using the jewish calendar) we would come up to the year and date jesus entered jerusalem riding on a donkey.
I think there are some things we will not know until it happens.. And all we can do is try to figure out what we think he is saying, but not be so proud to think we have it.
Other things, I think are quite clear. (Especially already fulfilled prophesy) And we should take them as to what they say
I think there are some things we will not know until it happens.. And all we can do is try to figure out what we think he is saying, but not be so proud to think we have it.
Other things, I think are quite clear. (Especially already fulfilled prophesy) And we should take them as to what they say
Jesus did not bear Israel's and Judah's iniquity for a year, that's just your own interpretation otherwise the bible should have made it clear by saying Jesus did so to fulfill Ezekiel the prophet. Jesus' ministry was not for 490 days either.
Daniel's 70 week doesn't end in the 1st century but goes to the end of age. Daniel sees visions of judgement so his visions were about end times and the very end of age. When Jesus talks about the end, He refers people back to Daniel showing that He also was talking about end of the age and not 70AD.
Daniel's 70 week doesn't end in the 1st century but goes to the end of age. Daniel sees visions of judgement so his visions were about end times and the very end of age. When Jesus talks about the end, He refers people back to Daniel showing that He also was talking about end of the age and not 70AD.
1. Jesus when talking about the end, referred people to Daniel (Abomination spoken of by Daniel) but one very key statement; 'let he that readeth understand'. This is like saying saying 'let he who has the wisdom crack it' because understanding basically requires wisdom.
A Roman army destroying property doesn't require anyone to have any understanding or any wisdom or read anything.
2. By the time the 70 AD war started, some of the gospel writers were still alive and yet non bothered to tell if the war was the fulfillment of that prophesy. It seems 21st century prophets are more knowledgeable.
3. It is arguable that by 70AD the gospels were still being written.
Your ideas are hereby dismissed.
A Roman army destroying property doesn't require anyone to have any understanding or any wisdom or read anything.
2. By the time the 70 AD war started, some of the gospel writers were still alive and yet non bothered to tell if the war was the fulfillment of that prophesy. It seems 21st century prophets are more knowledgeable.
3. It is arguable that by 70AD the gospels were still being written.
Your ideas are hereby dismissed.
Your attempts at insulting have no effect on my life, but they certainly say a lot about you.
Scripture is dismissed? Matt 24/Luke 21..........clearly proves the abomination of desolation is an army. You didn't even read it.
The seige did not begin in 70AD....it ended in 70AD with the destruction of the temple. The actual war ended with the fall of Masada.
Historical fact reveals when the gospels and the epistles were written. Revelation is not a "gospel".
Daniel's abomination of desolation was also an army
Scripture is dismissed? Matt 24/Luke 21..........clearly proves the abomination of desolation is an army. You didn't even read it.
The seige did not begin in 70AD....it ended in 70AD with the destruction of the temple. The actual war ended with the fall of Masada.
Historical fact reveals when the gospels and the epistles were written. Revelation is not a "gospel".
Daniel's abomination of desolation was also an army
It's not an insult, just sound reasoning.
1. You need to let us know how an army desolating a place requires people to have wisdom or understanding when reading the prophesy (as per Jesus- those things require understanding).
2. Matt 24 and Luke are books that were arguable written after 70 AD. Paul's letters were also written around that time. Revelation was written after 70 AD. Some of these people (especially John) were still alive during the 70 AD siege yet non of them said it was the fulfillment of what Jesus said or what Daniel prophesied- surely someone must be lying.
Make me understand.
1. You need to let us know how an army desolating a place requires people to have wisdom or understanding when reading the prophesy (as per Jesus- those things require understanding).
2. Matt 24 and Luke are books that were arguable written after 70 AD. Paul's letters were also written around that time. Revelation was written after 70 AD. Some of these people (especially John) were still alive during the 70 AD siege yet non of them said it was the fulfillment of what Jesus said or what Daniel prophesied- surely someone must be lying.
Make me understand.
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Lol. At no point in any time in the time of David or the time of Christ has the “abomination which makes desolate” ever been an army
You have been given the interpretive defenitions of the words from multiple hebrew lexicons and dictionaries which prove this to be true.
If you can not get this basic FACT right. How can you expect to understand the rest of it?
You have been given the interpretive defenitions of the words from multiple hebrew lexicons and dictionaries which prove this to be true.
If you can not get this basic FACT right. How can you expect to understand the rest of it?
Luke 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.
Matt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Christians fled to Pella from Jerusalem right before the siege began <Josephus>)
Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the harmonized gospels of the Olivet Discourse.
I can't MAKE you understand. I'm not even sure appealing to scripture sways your opinions.
How do you respond to common sense, logic and history?
Do you even realize how OLD those apostles would be if they wrote their "books" after 70AD? John being the youngest.
Johh's Revelation has been assigned to after year 90 by premils. That would make him (still on the isle of Patmos) at around 80 yrs old, (he would have to be at least 20 to be considered adult in Jewish culture when starting with the ministry of Jesus. After John was released from Patmos he went on to pastor at Ephesus, one of those 7churches he founded. According to Roman tradition, prisoners were released at the death of the one who imprisoned them.....Nero died in 67AD.
The other apostles would be even older but we know that John was the last surviving apostle of the 12.
Matt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Christians fled to Pella from Jerusalem right before the siege began <Josephus>)
Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the harmonized gospels of the Olivet Discourse.
I can't MAKE you understand. I'm not even sure appealing to scripture sways your opinions.
How do you respond to common sense, logic and history?
Do you even realize how OLD those apostles would be if they wrote their "books" after 70AD? John being the youngest.
Johh's Revelation has been assigned to after year 90 by premils. That would make him (still on the isle of Patmos) at around 80 yrs old, (he would have to be at least 20 to be considered adult in Jewish culture when starting with the ministry of Jesus. After John was released from Patmos he went on to pastor at Ephesus, one of those 7churches he founded. According to Roman tradition, prisoners were released at the death of the one who imprisoned them.....Nero died in 67AD.
The other apostles would be even older but we know that John was the last surviving apostle of the 12.
Luke 21:20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.
Matt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Christians fled to Pella from Jerusalem right before the siege began <Josephus>)
Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the harmonized gospels of the Olivet Discourse.
Matt 24:15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Christians fled to Pella from Jerusalem right before the siege began <Josephus>)
Matt 24 and Luke 21 are the harmonized gospels of the Olivet Discourse.