IS MAN TOTALLY DEPRAVED?
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I understand that, all that , many uses that as an excuse to attack others. Jesus dint attack those who wanted to do His will but they were just confuse or misunderstood or mislead, many times did he explain. Do u remember the guy who thought He can outsmart Him by telling him off all the commandments and good deeds he did, But Jesus knew his thought but yet explained it with gentleness Lord is slow to anger every day we live with sins, resenting others and e.g but yet Him forgive us no matter what ,is another sign of how slow is He to anger. Read and understand well the scriptures on the times Jesus attacked people and get the difference before rebuking those that just need to be enlighten and those that just want to do their own will. And gentleness is good for the soul.
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Somebody's gotta be preaching the Gospel, right? May as well be me and my other Reformed brothers and sisters on here. 
Soli Deo Gloria!
Soli Deo Gloria!
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Somebody's gotta be preaching the Gospel, right? May as well be me and my other Reformed brothers and sisters on here.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Soli Deo Gloria!
Well I don't agree with you on this one. But I have friends that do believe OSAS. So far they haven't convinced me. But the OP went a long way in shutting down conversation on the subject. If you want people to see your side of things,being rude isn't the way to do it. Anyhow,I've given you a thumbs up on a lot of posts,there is plenty we agree on,just not this particular subject.
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Why do you see things as rude? There was no intention of this. I'm sorry my post upset you, but before God it was not intended to be rude. more jovial and actually serious at the same time if you know what I mean.
Now, you disagree that my Reformed friends and I preach the Gospel? If so, then you see we aren't preaching the Gospel, right?
Or are you aiming at the perseverance of the Saints, what you call "OSAS?" Is it OSAS and you saying you disagree with that?
OSAS by the way is a takeoff of the perseverance of the saints, and it has some serious issues especially in the Free Grace Theology camp. It isn't true Biblical teaching, so that may be one reason you are rejecting it because it has some issues, so we need to get to the real teaching from whence it came.
Please don't take this wrongly, as others do, or as an offense. I have lot's of learning to do, and read a lot of material, and enjoy reading. I read several commentaries per year, and they are a joy! Also read through Scripture at least twice per year, and listen to Sermons and theological discussions and debates almost daily. We also read Scripture with our 8 year old daughter, who loves to do so with us, and makes sure we remember nightly. Then we pray together as a family. It is all of grace, and we are so thankful to God. My wife prays and thanks God for our Bibles, the books, that we do this together. It's wonderful that God gives this grace!
I imagine that you've done much reading as well, and also have learning to do just like all of us. You enjoy discussing Scripture, read your Bible, read other books, love the LORD, lead your family spiritually, and you are my sister in Christ.
My request of you, if I may ask kindly dear sis, is that you go and read what perseverance of the saints is from the Reformed perspective to see what it teaches in depth. This isn't something that one can do quickly as the passages need to be studied out, commentary sought, context understood. Please share what you've read, from whom. We can discuss what you think are problem areas. At least that is an offer I am extending to you.
If you do read this through, and study it out afresh, you will find that its tenets are Biblical while being both exegetically and contextually accurate. That is what is important, that it is contextually accurate, and Biblical.
Now, you disagree that my Reformed friends and I preach the Gospel? If so, then you see we aren't preaching the Gospel, right?
Or are you aiming at the perseverance of the Saints, what you call "OSAS?" Is it OSAS and you saying you disagree with that?
OSAS by the way is a takeoff of the perseverance of the saints, and it has some serious issues especially in the Free Grace Theology camp. It isn't true Biblical teaching, so that may be one reason you are rejecting it because it has some issues, so we need to get to the real teaching from whence it came.
Please don't take this wrongly, as others do, or as an offense. I have lot's of learning to do, and read a lot of material, and enjoy reading. I read several commentaries per year, and they are a joy! Also read through Scripture at least twice per year, and listen to Sermons and theological discussions and debates almost daily. We also read Scripture with our 8 year old daughter, who loves to do so with us, and makes sure we remember nightly. Then we pray together as a family. It is all of grace, and we are so thankful to God. My wife prays and thanks God for our Bibles, the books, that we do this together. It's wonderful that God gives this grace!
I imagine that you've done much reading as well, and also have learning to do just like all of us. You enjoy discussing Scripture, read your Bible, read other books, love the LORD, lead your family spiritually, and you are my sister in Christ.
My request of you, if I may ask kindly dear sis, is that you go and read what perseverance of the saints is from the Reformed perspective to see what it teaches in depth. This isn't something that one can do quickly as the passages need to be studied out, commentary sought, context understood. Please share what you've read, from whom. We can discuss what you think are problem areas. At least that is an offer I am extending to you.
If you do read this through, and study it out afresh, you will find that its tenets are Biblical while being both exegetically and contextually accurate. That is what is important, that it is contextually accurate, and Biblical.
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No,no not your post. You weren't rude at all. I was speaking of the OP,who I have also given a thumbs up several times. But no I didn't mean you.
Yes,OSAS is what I was speaking of. Though I do have questions about Calvinism. Again I have close friends who believe this,more than just one. Wonderful people. I just don't agree on some of the things they believe.
As to what you share that is none of my business. It's a free and open forum. The only point I was making is that this subject always dissolves into a shouting match with people getting angry and hurt. So why poke the bear when we have so many posts on it already?
I appreciate your patience. I'll warn you that it's hard to change the mind of an old Pentecostal. We're a pretty stubborn lot. Yes I do like reading a lot and learning. My parents often discussed politics,doctrine and social issues with us. We were mature for our age. Then I began in ministry when I was 16. Imagine that!! And I travelled in many churches and got perspective on many different issues among denominations. So I get that we don't all believe the same,though sometimes I think we are closer than we think we are.
Do you have any good links to share that I can give a read? I'll do my best to give it an honest look. Blessings.