ARE WE THERE YET? 666

[obedienttogod]

I don't know why everyone thinks that the mark is some kind of technology. Why can't it just be a tattoo, or even a scare. Or maybe it's not an actual mark at all. Maybe it's just pledging an allegiance and getting a world social security number.

The reason I find it seems reasonable to think in terms of the RFID Chip, is due to our day and time. Technology!! The RFID chip already is programmed to act like a bank debit card for Bank of America to those customers who have it, to the companies in California whose employees have it use to clock in and clock out of work, so it's already ready to function like a credit card when things go CASHLESS, plus it comes with a built in homing beacon. This means if you hide, you can be found by the signal the RFID Chip gives off.

When I think in terms of the Tribulation, I can see Satan using this technology to know where everyone is at, knows what stores they shop at, knows how much money they have, basically it will tell Satan all he needs to know about those who have this RFID Chip. And that seems to follow the idea of what scripture paints during the time of great Tribulation.

 

[obedienttogod]

And of course, those found not having this chip, will either take it or have their heads removed!!

 

[dcontroversal]

The reason I find it seems reasonable to think in terms of the RFID Chip, is due to our day and time. Technology!! The RFID chip already is programmed to act like a bank debit card for Bank of America to those customers who have it, to the companies in California whose employees have it use to clock in and clock out of work, so it's already ready to function like a credit card when things go CASHLESS, plus it comes with a built in homing beacon. This means if you hide, you can be found by the signal the RFID Chip gives off.

When I think in terms of the Tribulation, I can see Satan using this technology to know where everyone is at, knows what stores they shop at, knows how much money they have, basically it will tell Satan all he needs to know about those who have this RFID Chip. And that seems to follow the idea of what scripture paints during the time of great Tribulation.

I live about 40 minutes from a po-dunk town in Missouri......like population is about 2500 and it is the county seat....they have a few gas stations that have used a thumb print for about 7 years now to allow payment for gas.........I always thought that was odd....anyway.......it is interesting that many places are now cashless and just like an airline ticket, car rental, u-haul truck rental or hotel....one MUST have a bank card or credit card or you can forget it...and now they are ALL coming with a security chip......technology is taking leaps and bounds and at the proverbial speed of light......

 

[obedienttogod]

plus it comes with a built in homing beacon. This means if you hide, you can be found by the signal the RFID Chip gives off.


Sadly, this is why mothers are RFIDing their babies in case someone steals them. But it began with animals to use as tags a vet scans and its like loading a web page with the animals info.

To me, this is why Satan will use it becomes it is how he can have all of your info plus know where you are at all of the time.

Satan is not God who knows everything. So he will need some kind of technology to keep track of 8 billion people!!

 

[obedienttogod]

I live about 40 minutes from a po-dunk town in Missouri......like population is about 2500 and it is the county seat....they have a few gas stations that have used a thumb print for about 7 years now to allow payment for gas.........I always thought that was odd....anyway.......it is interesting that many places are now cashless and just like an airline ticket, car rental, u-haul truck rental or hotel....one MUST have a bank card or credit card or you can forget it...and now they are ALL coming with a security chip......technology is taking leaps and bounds and at the proverbial speed of light......

Amen!!

And it is frightening alarming since we know what is going to happen. Sweden is already a cashless society where you are required to have debit/credit cards. Australia is suppose to go cashless in 2020 along with 7 other nations. Places in the USA are already cashless like you mentioned. It is happening before our very own eyes.

And the killer thing is, the tech junkies are loving it. By not having physical credit cards, they cannot be stolen. And the RFID Chip cannot be tampered with. So it is a very logical idea to presume this could be how Satan separates us.

 

[Hevosmies]

I live about 40 minutes from a po-dunk town in Missouri......like population is about 2500 and it is the county seat....they have a few gas stations that have used a thumb print for about 7 years now to allow payment for gas.........I always thought that was odd....anyway.......it is interesting that many places are now cashless and just like an airline ticket, car rental, u-haul truck rental or hotel....one MUST have a bank card or credit card or you can forget it...and now they are ALL coming with a security chip......technology is taking leaps and bounds and at the proverbial speed of light......

amen brother.

Notice how DECEPTIVE they are? With your car rental example: they say you cant rent it with cash for "SECURITY" reasons. The things they can market to people with "security" and "safety".

It never crosses people's minds that the powers that be wont necessarily always be for our benefit?

I wonder what happens when the mark of the beast is enforced and if the pre-tribbers were wrong. Oy vey! I sure hope its pre-trib.

 

[dcontroversal]

Amen!!

And it is frightening alarming since we know what is going to happen. Sweden is already a cashless society where you are required to have debit/credit cards. Australia is suppose to go cashless in 2020 along with 7 other nations. Places in the USA are already cashless like you mentioned. It is happening before our very own eyes.

And the killer thing is, the tech junkies are loving it. By not having physical credit cards, they cannot be stolen. And the RFID Chip cannot be tampered with. So it is a very logical idea to presume this could be how Satan separates us.

Seems plausible......You know.....last time I was in Australia which was like 2 weeks ago.....was there for 6 weeks and I exchanged about 3000 American for about 4200 Australian.....I then gave a few grand up to go into the bank and when they ran the money through the atm to deposit there were several bills the atm would not take......they say in both Au and America that xx amount of bills are fake.....another excuse they will use to do away with cash

 

[VCO]

The Beast is the system by which you will buy, sell, trade, bank, etc. The system is controlled by the what is being bugged out at this very moment, the Quantum Computer. Just from ONE computer equipped with the new Quantum Technology, anyone can control everything worldwide. It's why Silicon Valley is in such a rush trying to be the first one to debug it and have it up an running. China is also trying to get theirs to be first and other nations involved in Quantum Computing. Whomever, has theirs first online, will be the controller of the BEAST.

And yes, the RFID Chip is the best way I conclude of getting the MARK. These chips are equipped with a beacon where you can be found anywhere. And with the Quantum Technology Computer in control, there will be no place on earth you can hide from it. And even though you can remove the chip, you won't be allowed to buy-sell-trade-medical-bank, etc.

With nations like Sweden going CASHLESS, and Australia by 2020 and other nations headed that way, the RFID Chip will be the perfect solution.

In California as of this very moment, several industries employing over 2,000 people have made getting the RFID Chip a requirement. People clock in/out by swiping their hand over a scanner like a time card.

Mothers have been RFIDing their babies in case of being stolen.

It's widely accepted and will be easy to transition into.

And I will say with JOHN:

Revelation 22:20-21 (HCSB)
20 He who testifies about these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen! Come, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen.


I know there are FEW that understand the TRUTH about the MARK. That is why I know it will be implemented with very litte RESISTANCE. Do not get me wrong, I do not plan to be hear at that time. I will be Called out of this earth to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, that I think will be before Chapter 6 in Revelation. But IF we are to be here, for the START of the MARK, I will be out in the woods with my BOW, hunting for Deer, wild Mushrooms, and berries, especially mulberries to eat.

 

[dcontroversal]

amen brother.

Notice how DECEPTIVE they are? With your car rental example: they say you cant rent it with cash for "SECURITY" reasons. The things they can market to people with "security" and "safety".

It never crosses people's minds that the powers that be wont necessarily always be for our benefit?

I wonder what happens when the mark of the beast is enforced and if the pre-tribbers were wrong. Oy vey! I sure hope its pre-trib.

Well.....I am a post trib/pre wrath at the 7th trump and I am fully "prepped" for that issue!!! <---the Marine in me HAH

 

[Hevosmies]

Well.....I am a post trib/pre wrath at the 7th trump and I am fully "prepped" for that issue!!! <---the Marine in me HAH

I am also of the "pray for the best, prepare for the worst" kind. I rather be prepared for post trib and be wrong than NOT be prepared waiting for the rapture only to be majorly disappointed.

In fact I believe that could be the whole reason behind it. People dont LIKE tribulation or bad things happening.

I think the best argument in my studies for pre-trib rapture has been the IMMINENT return aspect. Many verses seem to teach that. Like in Matthew 24 Jesus lists a bunch of CLEAR signs yet flips the script and says "no man knows the day or hour" but wait a minute He juust said a bunch of stuff that needs to happen first.

On the post-trib side the best argument for it I believe is that if you just read through the NT in its plain sense, I believe thats what you come out as, last trumpet, matthew 24:31 after the tribulation. Another argument for it is that its AWFULLY confusing to always figure out "is this teh coming FOR the church, or second coming". Whereas if you believe its one and the same its a lot easier to navigate. Add to that the truth that the early church was post-trib because they saw it as one coming in the future

 

[VCO]

I knew someone who refused to buy anything priced at 9.99
because upside down it’s 66.6

They thought pricing labels were the mark of the beast.

No it is not about superstition, or any of that STUFF. I used to be a Volunteer Protestant Chaplain, iTn one of the SUPERMAX Prisons in California. I was training a new volunteer to help me in the Security Housing Unit (the HOLE). And when I got him all trained, he went to pick up is Permanent I.D., and did not look at it until he go home. The I.D. Number had three 666 in a row, and he FREAKED OUT. He said he had to HIDE the I.D. under a rock outside, and called the head Chaplain that next morning. Chaplain told him there was nothing he could do, and the PRISON would not issue him a new I.D., simply because he did not like the number on it. SO HE QUIT, and turned his I.D. in.

That is the honest truth.

 

[dcontroversal]

I am also of the "pray for the best, prepare for the worst" kind. I rather be prepared for post trib and be wrong than NOT be prepared waiting for the rapture only to be majorly disappointed.

In fact I believe that could be the whole reason behind it. People dont LIKE tribulation or bad things happening.

I think the best argument in my studies for pre-trib rapture has been the IMMINENT return aspect. Many verses seem to teach that. Like in Matthew 24 Jesus lists a bunch of CLEAR signs yet flips the script and says "no man knows the day or hour" but wait a minute He juust said a bunch of stuff that needs to happen first.

On the post-trib side the best argument for it I believe is that if you just read through the NT in its plain sense, I believe thats what you come out as, last trumpet, matthew 24:31 after the tribulation. Another argument for it is that its AWFULLY confusing to always figure out "is this teh coming FOR the church, or second coming". Whereas if you believe its one and the same its a lot easier to navigate. Add to that the truth that the early church was post-trib because they saw it as one coming in the future

I was raised in an imminent return church, believed it dogmatically and defended it without remorse until I had to study through the bible twice a year in seminary and had to teach through 1st and 2nd Thessalonians at church.......that caused me to embark on a 14 year study that led me to believe 7th trump post tribulation/pre-wrath ingathering.......part of that study is my book in the blog section in CC <--212 pages/26 chapters written in 2007......and I can add another 10 chapters and a 100 pages if I were to sit and write it.........

 

[obedienttogod]

And I will say with JOHN:

Revelation 22:20-21 (HCSB)
20 He who testifies about these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen! Come, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints. Amen.


I know there are FEW that understand the TRUTH about the MARK. That is why I know it will be implemented with very litte RESISTANCE. Do not get me wrong, I do not plan to be hear at that time. I will be Called out of this earth to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, that I think will be before Chapter 6 in Revelation. But IF we are to be here, for the START of the MARK, I will be out in the woods with my BOW, hunting for Deer, wild Mushrooms, and berries, especially mulberries to eat.

Pay close ATTENTION TO THIS:


This is from Yeshua (GOD):

Matthew 24:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



VERSE 21 = TRIBULATION BEGINS

VERSE 22 = DAYS BE SHORTENED FOR THE ELECTS SAKE = this means we will be here for the BEGINNING

VERSE 23-26 = BEWARE OF FALSE CHRIST'S AND PROPHETS DURING THE TRIBULATION

VERSE 27 = SPEAKS HOW WE KNOW GOD IS RETURNING LIKE LIGHTNING FROM EAST TO WEST

VERSE 29 = TRIBULATION ENDS - SUN DARKENS - MOON TURNS TO BLOOD - STARS FALL FROM HEAVEN

VERSE 30 = SECOND COMING OF CHRIST (notice: it's after Tribulation ends and the sun darkens, moon to blood, stars fall)

VERSE 31 - THE ANGELS WILL GATHER THE ELECT (this is our "rapture")


So, according to GOD, the SAVED (ELECT) will go through ALL 7 YEARS of Tribulation.
At the end of that 7 year Tribulation, Yeshua returns like lightning from the East to the West and then the angels will gather the remaining SAVED (ELECT).

WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE TRIBULATION!!

This is why threads like this are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Because it gives us time to prepare. If Tribulation began tomorrow, I am aware of the RFID CHIP, I am aware of what is going to happen during the Tribulation, I am aware when the sun darkens-moon turns to blood-stars fall...Yeshua is on His way to get me (if I am still alive).

But this thread gives those who are just READING valuable information they can keep in knowledge if they are here when Tribulation begins!!

 

[Hevosmies]

I was raised in an imminent return church, believed it dogmatically and defended it without remorse until I had to study through the bible twice a year in seminary and had to teach through 1st and 2nd Thessalonians at church.......that caused me to embark on a 14 year study that led me to believe 7th trump post tribulation/pre-wrath ingathering.......part of that study is my book in the blog section in CC <--212 pages/26 chapters written in 2007......and I can add another 10 chapters and a 100 pages if I were to sit and write it.........

Do you tackle the imminency proof texts in your book? I'd be interested to see that

 

[VCO]

Not even close. Nero Caesar is long gone (and good riddance). The Antichrist is to be revealed in the future. Nero may have displayed some of the characteristics of the Antichrist, but he cannot be the one described in the Bible.

As to the number, it is more that likely that whether a numeric or alpha-numeric identifying number is assigned to each person at that time, the numerals 666 will form a part of that code.

There is NO SECRET CODE in the BIBLE. He says it is a NUMBER that Identifies a MAN, like a Social Security Number, but it will probably be simply 6 digits, 6 digits, 6 digits numbering every human being on the planet, implanting in the right hand or on the forehead of amputees.


Revelation 13:18 (HCSB)
18 Here is wisdom: The one who has understanding must calculate the number of the beast, because it is the number of a man. His number is 666.

 

[dcontroversal]

Do you tackle the imminency proof texts in your book? I'd be interested to see that

Of course......go read it....easy read.....I can read the whole book in a few hours......called My book on the 2nd Coming.....in the blog section

 

[VCO]

I read somewhere that Bill Gates's name equals 666, if you do the math.

NO SECRET CODES IN THE BIBLE.

 

[VCO]

Well I did. I can guarantee you this guy Carl is a post-tribber lol. As are most in the comments.

If you do not believe in the pretrib Rapture, or do not want to go then, You will get your wish.

 

[Hevosmies]

Of course......go read it....easy read.....I can read the whole book in a few hours......called My book on the 2nd Coming.....in the blog section

https://christianchat.com/#__RefHeading___Toc148869925

^It gives this link that leads to the frontpage when I click on : "
Chapter 11 Fact 10 No Man Can Know the Time But
We Can Know the Signs of the Times! 83 " in this thread: https://christianchat.com/blogs/book-on-the-2nd-coming-of-christ.172326/

Oy vey! Technical difficulties, get on it moderators!

 

[dcontroversal]

https://christianchat.com/#__RefHeading___Toc148869925

^It gives this link that leads to the frontpage when I click on : "
Chapter 11 Fact 10 No Man Can Know the Time But
We Can Know the Signs of the Times! 83 " in this thread: https://christianchat.com/blogs/book-on-the-2nd-coming-of-christ.172326/

Oy vey! Technical difficulties, get on it moderators!

Just go to the blog, go to the thread my book is in and then scroll down to the page you want to start on.....