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You deceived the authority of this Christian Forum; you were banned and returned to this forum against their rules. Everything you say should be brought into question because you lied about who you really are just so you could get your own way and return here after being banned.

Be reconciled to God and to this beautiful forum and then maybe people will believe you maybe.

Has anybody anybody told you what lying is? "Like not telling the truth."
The absolute truth....those that peddle obedience and a self maintained losable salvation are some of the most dishonest and non obedient people I have ever met....no integrity either.....
 
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Ok.....back on track.....

Jesus said....Thy faith has saved thee, go in peace. .

Yet we see the workers for and Cainologists arguing this simple truth.....

Faith is what saves....anything beyond faith to gain, keep, top off, finish salvation is false......
 

YourTruthGod

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I have numerous times and like normal your level of dishonesty proves what spirit leads you......and you should Know....Galatians condem faith plus works to gain, keep or finish as false
Paul is upset that the Galatians were talked into the purification works of the old law, like circumcision and the observance of special days. Do you really think that Paul was upset that the Galatians thought their obedience to Jesus meant more than it did?!
 

VCO

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Paul is NOT going against what Jesus says. Paul is speaking about the purification works.

We are blessed as a disciple, family member, and friend if we do what Jesus says.


Luke 11:28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

Matthew 12:50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

John 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command.
Paul is NOT going against what Jesus says. Paul is speaking about the purification works.

We are blessed as a disciple, family member, and friend if we do what Jesus says.


Luke 11:28 He replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

Matthew 12:50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

John 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

YOU ARE CONTRADICTING WHAT GOD AS SAID IN THE PREVIOUS POST. THERE ARE NOT CONTRADICTION, WHEN YOU INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES CORRECTLY. PLEASE DO NOT PERSIST IN THIS CONTRADICTION. A false prophet has been feeding you lies.
 

YourTruthGod

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you speak of honesty hahahhahahahaaha get your facts straight FRAN.....you were banned once amd now back in pretense peddling obedience....hahahha youbtake the cake for sure....I am not worried...I trust Jesus...he has saved me biblically by grace through faith......you on the other hand......bad day coming...!!!
It is wrong in your eyes to preach obedience to Christ?
 

YourTruthGod

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You deceived the authority of this Christian Forum; you were banned and returned to this forum against their rules. Everything you say should be brought into question because you lied about who you really are just so you could get your own way and return here after being banned.

Be reconciled to God and to this beautiful forum and then maybe people will believe you maybe.

Has anybody anybody told you what lying is? "Like not telling the truth."
Why would anyone get banned for preaching what Jesus says?
 

YourTruthGod

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Ok.....back on track.....

Jesus said....Thy faith has saved thee, go in peace. .

Yet we see the workers for and Cainologists arguing this simple truth.....

Faith is what saves....anything beyond faith to gain, keep, top off, finish salvation is false......
She had faith in repentance to Jesus.
 

YourTruthGod

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YOU ARE CONTRADICTING WHAT GOD AS SAID IN THE PREVIOUS POST. THERE ARE NOT CONTRADICTION, WHEN YOU INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES CORRECTLY. PLEASE DO NOT PERSIST IN THIS CONTRADICTION. A false prophet has been feeding you lies.
Let us discuss this more then, and calmly.
What would you like to discuss?
 

YourTruthGod

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He does, why do you not teach it then?
Jesus doesn't say to never mind what he preached when he walked the earth and told how to enter.

…unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law,you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven; Matthew 5:32.

…unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven; Matthew 18:3.

Matthew 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 19:17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

John 10:1 [ The Good Shepherd and His Sheep ] “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.
 

stonesoffire

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I read you statement. Where is this in scripture, anywhere?
I have seen people saying we can all get a new spirit heart from God by just asking God to give it to us,
an eternal heart that will never die, and is the real us. Funnily they did this to a TV audience, asking them
to respond within 20 seconds of being asked the question.

So I am somewhat cynical of such language and ideas, unless you can show any foundation in scripture.
Romans 8. I thought I posted this to you already, but maybe not. I have three dogs demanding attention this evening and is hard to keep focus.

The ISV states it as we are no longer under the control of our human nature but under the control of Holy Spirit if Messiah is within us. Our nature is changed by our new birth.

If God says we are dead to the nature of sin, then we put faith in His speaking truth that releases the power of Holy Spirit in our life.

That's the way of faith. It's a substance actually in the supernatural realm, when Father sees us exercising our trust in believing Him, (this substance) He is pleased and releases the end result of that trust. What we are asking for.

This is the obedience of faith.

In Hebrews 12 it there is speaking of endurance against sin. The desire is holiness. The truth is we are made Holy by the blood of the Lamb. We put our trust in this truth and resist temptation. Father sees that substance and empowers us through Holy Spirit and here is where the wonderful gift of our prayer language is our help.

The anointing of God is not only power, but enjoyment. Righteous living, being clean by the Word is peaceful, pleasurable....and the so called pleasures of the world spirit, or flesh cannot be compared.

Then....we have an enemy. And he lies. Who will we believe?

So the truth is...we are Spirit....greater with Him....then what we were in Adam. Flesh.

Which do you believe you are?
 

YourTruthGod

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John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

That scripture is about how we must be washed of our sins by the Spirit.
It is about having to repent of our sins and have faith that Jesus' blood washes away our sins.