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Sorry, YTG is right out there. I suppose training for pastors and teachers is out, along with
church services, house groups, outreach meetings, training for worship, administration etc
which is need to run any church.
You may not have noticed I believe the best of people, but this is for the birds, lol.
But then this is the internet, which is why one always has to take it all with a pinch of salt,
and just rejoice \
/
What people forget without the church we would not have the bible. It is literally centuries
of people copying it year after year. Now that is sacrificial giving.
church services, house groups, outreach meetings, training for worship, administration etc
which is need to run any church.
You may not have noticed I believe the best of people, but this is for the birds, lol.
But then this is the internet, which is why one always has to take it all with a pinch of salt,
and just rejoice \
/What people forget without the church we would not have the bible. It is literally centuries
of people copying it year after year. Now that is sacrificial giving.
[in response to YTG and Post #94,840]
^ Do you remember what Peter preached to "ye men of Israel [v.12]" in Acts 3??
13 The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, whom indeed you betrayed and disowned in the presence of Pilate, that one having adjudged to release Him. 14 But you denied the Holy and Righteous One and requested a murderer to be granted to you. 15 And you killed the Author of life, whom God has raised up out from the dead, whereof we are witnesses.
16 And on the faith in His name, this man whom you see and know, His name has strengthened; and the faith which is through Him has given to him this complete soundness before all of you.
17 And now, brothers [his Jewish brothers], I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your rulers also. 18 But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ should suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent, therefore, and turn again, for the blotting out of your sins, 20 so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send the One having been appointed to you, Christ Jesus, 21 whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things, of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age.
22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up to you a prophet like me out from your brothers. You will listen to Him in all things, as many as He might say to you. 23 And it will be that every soul who might not heed that prophet will be utterly destroyed out from the people.’ [the phrase 'the people' refers to the people of Israel specifically]
24 And also all the prophets from Samuel, and those subsequently, as many as have spoken, also have proclaimed these days. 25 You are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant that God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth will be blessed.’ 26 God, having raised up His servant [this was in His earthly ministry BEFORE His death (meaning, raised up to a position of prominence [i.e. a Prophet like unto Moses])], sent Him first to you, blessing you in turning away each of you from your wickednesses.”
^ Do you remember what Peter preached to "ye men of Israel [v.12]" in Acts 3??
13 The God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, whom indeed you betrayed and disowned in the presence of Pilate, that one having adjudged to release Him. 14 But you denied the Holy and Righteous One and requested a murderer to be granted to you. 15 And you killed the Author of life, whom God has raised up out from the dead, whereof we are witnesses.
16 And on the faith in His name, this man whom you see and know, His name has strengthened; and the faith which is through Him has given to him this complete soundness before all of you.
17 And now, brothers [his Jewish brothers], I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your rulers also. 18 But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ should suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent, therefore, and turn again, for the blotting out of your sins, 20 so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send the One having been appointed to you, Christ Jesus, 21 whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things, of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age.
22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up to you a prophet like me out from your brothers. You will listen to Him in all things, as many as He might say to you. 23 And it will be that every soul who might not heed that prophet will be utterly destroyed out from the people.’ [the phrase 'the people' refers to the people of Israel specifically]
24 And also all the prophets from Samuel, and those subsequently, as many as have spoken, also have proclaimed these days. 25 You are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant that God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth will be blessed.’ 26 God, having raised up His servant [this was in His earthly ministry BEFORE His death (meaning, raised up to a position of prominence [i.e. a Prophet like unto Moses])], sent Him first to you, blessing you in turning away each of you from your wickednesses.”
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Sorry, YTG is right out there. I suppose training for pastors and teachers is out, along with
church services, house groups, outreach meetings, training for worship, administration etc
which is need to run any church.
You may not have noticed I believe the best of people, but this is for the birds, lol.
But then this is the internet, which is why one always has to take it all with a pinch of salt,
and just rejoice \/
What people forget without the church we would not have the bible. It is literally centuries
of people copying it year after year. Now that is sacrificial giving.
church services, house groups, outreach meetings, training for worship, administration etc
which is need to run any church.
You may not have noticed I believe the best of people, but this is for the birds, lol.
But then this is the internet, which is why one always has to take it all with a pinch of salt,
and just rejoice \
/What people forget without the church we would not have the bible. It is literally centuries
of people copying it year after year. Now that is sacrificial giving.
You are way out there for not putting Jesus before the church you found.
I am trying to understand your context. I think you are saying because they are preaching they are wrong.
It is a fair assumption if all churches are wrong as well as denominations.
But this is extremely judgemental and all knowing. Maybe each of these churches has people like you
buried away that you just have not met. Then your rejection and judgements would be wrong.
It is a fair assumption if all churches are wrong as well as denominations.
But this is extremely judgemental and all knowing. Maybe each of these churches has people like you
buried away that you just have not met. Then your rejection and judgements would be wrong.
You need to realise, because you are a brother in Christ you still can get things wrong.
Just as I can, but you have no right to judge others in the body, especially if they are faithful
to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Paul said those who disregard His body face discipline
and some are taken to prevent them going too far.
Just as I can, but you have no right to judge others in the body, especially if they are faithful
to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Paul said those who disregard His body face discipline
and some are taken to prevent them going too far.