Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

FHS: I pray from the bottom of my heart you will have your eyes and ears open to the truth, and in that truth you will be feel the peace and freedom only God can give.

Thank you very much for this wish.
I am though perplexed. I grew up in a family which needed the sermon on the mount to be lived out.
It needed true love and emotional reality practised by each family member but it was not.
And my life is founded on listening to Jesus and following His words as I dwell on them daily.
It is His principles and precepts I desire most, to see who He faced and where He saw failure and problems.

So with a lifetime of seeing His word work out in my marriage and my kids and church life, to hear it
is just a false self righteousness is grieving and truly sad, but not for me, but for you.

These are the words of life, eternity, the keys to the Kingdom.
It sounds trite, but I knew the difference between trying and being. And the answer to this problem is
having an open heart and letting God purify us, cleanse us, seeing our humanity and those around us in
its full emotional honesty, we begin to see what matters and what is just fluff. Brutally honest, I could
do the worst sins possible, so dark is my heart, yet God forgives me and gives me grace.
In myself my reactions go to the immediate defence and attack rather than taking the blow and forgiving
and just letting His love flow.

These are the ways of the Kingdom, of the apostles. You will only begin to see it if you start walking it,
because then you hear them saying Amen, blessing, walk on, put to death the evil passions of this world
and put on the ways of the Spirit, love, patience, self control, faithfulness, endurance, praise.

But of course if one neither reads the words or believes them or walks them will this minister to their
hearts, and when the storm comes, their building will collapse and great will be its fall.
But it is not fear that drives us on, it is love and listening to Jesus, and letting the word grow in our
hearts to eternal life, Amen.

 

[YourTruthGod]

If you walk with Jesus and share that walk, Amen.
I encourage all to do this. I can only comment on what I read,
and most I do not have time to read, God bless you.

I mostly don't read anything you post. You post a lot of your feelings and not scripture.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I know what they teach and what their teachers teach.
There is something odd about you. I would suggest you not ride the fence.

I do not see me riding a fence but following Jesus's example.
We have people of God confessing faith and desiring to hear Jesus.
So while it is day I will speak to this, because there is always hope that some will respond and
hear, they will rise up and bring praise to their lips and walk in His ways.

For by preaching the word does the word bear fruit and work.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I mostly don't read anything you post. You post a lot of your feelings and not scripture.

What we are inside is the fruit of Gods work.
God desires we bring praise to Him. It suggests to me that is not your heart.
In this place, Jesus desires we know His life to the full, His joy, His peace and His love.

 

[YourTruthGod]

So have you COMPLETELY STOPPED SINNING?

Of course I have what 's wrong with you? You haven't stopped any sins for God?

In 1 John 2:1, we read - My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. Does "STOP SINNING = if anyone sins."

That scripture rebukes you in the hardest way.

Those who teach sinless perfection have also abused the words of Jesus in John 8:11, in which He tells the woman caught in adultery, "go and sin no more." Jesus was telling her to go and leave her life of sin. She had been practicing adultery. Sinless perfection is not being taught here. *Jesus cannot compromise his perfect holy standard, so of course He is not going to say, "go and just sin a little bit."

She was to stop committing adultery. Do you think if she was a thief too that she didn't have to stop doing that?
You are ridiculous.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Garbage in .= garbage out

Do you not know that people such as yourself blasphemy things they don't understand? Do you know the scripture that says that?

 

[YourTruthGod]

I am not sure why you say the above. Jesus said this

24 Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.
Matt 7:24-25

Do you know what the Kingdom actually is, or what being born again means or even
dying to self and living to God?

I lived in a family who talk like you do, it is all show and no reality, except Jesus is reality
and knew the heart of people. The Kingdom is about our hearts, being cleansed and true
to the love God placed there. If you knew this you would know why the sermon on the mount
is the words of life and not "sustain my glory" which is total nonsense.

If Jesus our Lord and Saviour says put the words into practice, you might realise it is a good
thing to do. God bless you.

By the way walking in righteousness is true freedom, because you know you bring life and love
to people who are scared and alone, a real hope in this world of darkness.

hahahaha How did you like it when he said what he did to you? It is exactly what you do to me. There is something patronizing and worse about people who do what you are doing.

 

[YourTruthGod]

You are the one spewing forth false teaching. Satan is the liar of all liars.

I tell you to obey Jesus and not just have faith alone and you call that from Satan! You are in big trouble.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

hahahaha How did you like it when he said what he did to you? It is exactly what you do to me. There is something patronizing and worse about people who do what you are doing.

Not sure what you mean.
Being assertive and confident can be seen as patronizing, or stating something that is said in scripture
that is very clear. And I do not mind people praying for me, I seriously appreciate it, because I understand
the intention, which is a good thing. Do you find people good intentions towards one, are a bad thing?

 

[YourTruthGod]

Now he is calling me Satan.

Who is calling you Satan? You think too much of yourself. You can only be a child of Satan or ensnared by Satan. Prove it right now that someone said you were Satan.
You are used to getting away with lying about what others say?

Show it right now where someone said you are Satan.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Do you not know that people such as yourself blasphemy things they don't understand? Do you know the scripture that says that?

YTG The phrase garbage in = garbage out is an information technology term referring to you get
back the contents put in. This is a classic case of ignoring, because it is just a non-specific point
that has no reply because it is just someones reaction, but you do not know why.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I tell you to obey Jesus and not just have faith alone and you call that from Satan! You are in big trouble.

I have to agree this is always a down hill progression of condemnation.
Messengers are just that, if one condemns a message from God as from the enemy, this is part
way to total rebellion. I sometimes wonder if the Lord allows this to test peoples true reality
in Him. King David has a man come up to him cursing him and he did nothing because he did
not want to oppose something that may have come from God.

Nothing is neutral, and we have to be aware our loyalty is to Him alone. Amen.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Not sure what you mean.
Being assertive and confident can be seen as patronizing, or stating something that is said in scripture
that is very clear. And I do not mind people praying for me, I seriously appreciate it, because I understand
the intention, which is a good thing. Do you find people good intentions towards one, are a bad thing?

Just look at the sad face you gave to one of my posts.
You write too long of posts, much you say is not scriptural, and it seems like some kind of emotional imbalance.

 

[50C1AL0N3]

I am not sure why you say the above. Jesus said this

24 Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.
Matt 7:24-25

Do you know what the Kingdom actually is, or what being born again means or even
dying to self and living to God?

I lived in a family who talk like you do, it is all show and no reality, except Jesus is reality
and knew the heart of people. The Kingdom is about our hearts, being cleansed and true
to the love God placed there. If you knew this you would know why the sermon on the mount
is the words of life and not "sustain my glory" which is total nonsense.

If Jesus our Lord and Saviour says put the words into practice, you might realise it is a good
thing to do. God bless you.

By the way walking in righteousness is true freedom, because you know you bring life and love
to people who are scared and alone, a real hope in this world of darkness.

Chrsts teachings were not that of some higher religious teacher. Nor do they fast forward the listener into new Christianity. The general teachings of Jesus were classic Judaism, mostly that of the Psalms. (Save the proclamation of his dirty).
Chrst was not declared to be the son of God from his teachings, or his virgin birth, nor his atoning sacrificial death. Chrst was declared to be the son of God with authority over all things by his resurrection.
I AM THE CHRIST PROMISED AND SENT BY THE FATHER. Is our first and foremost adherence to his teachings.

 

[YourTruthGod]

YTG The phrase garbage in = garbage out is an information technology term referring to you get
back the contents put in. This is a classic case of ignoring, because it is just a non-specific point
that has no reply because it is just someones reaction, but you do not know why.

Could you stop trying to correct me? You don't even speak according to scripture.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Just look at the sad face you gave to one of my posts.
You write too long of posts, much you say is not scriptural, and it seems like some kind of emotional imbalance.

My sad face was I thought it was a sad situation that you were expressing things about.
And I am sure what you think I am saying is not scriptural, but it might not be what I am saying.
This is where the heart comes in and expecting the best of others.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Could you stop trying to correct me? You don't even speak according to scripture.

Do you know the difference between information and correction?
How is sharing put on a scale of competition, or building up or knocking down.
Now if you feel I am contradicting the Lords words and intent please share, because it helps
me to understand how I am coming across. God bless you.

 

[YourTruthGod]

I have to agree this is always a down hill progression of condemnation.
Messengers are just that, if one condemns a message from God as from the enemy, this is part
way to total rebellion. I sometimes wonder if the Lord allows this to test peoples true reality
in Him. King David has a man come up to him cursing him and he did nothing because he did
not want to oppose something that may have come from God.

Nothing is neutral, and we have to be aware our loyalty is to Him alone. Amen.

There is one thing to be a loner because of God's Word, and there is another thing to preach against the truth.
There are people here that preach against the truth, and I have been kind and careful even through the worst of treatment.

 

[BillG]

Do you not know that people such as yourself blasphemy things they don't understand? Do you know the scripture that says that?

As you really do not know me I suggest you keep your trap shut.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Chrsts teachings were not that of some higher religious teacher. Nor do they fast forward the listener into new Christianity. The general teachings of Jesus were classic Judaism, mostly that of the Psalms. (Save the proclamation of his dirty).
Chrst was not declared to be the son of God from his teachings, or his virgin birth, nor his atoning sacrificial death. Chrst was declared to be the son of God with authority over all things by his resurrection.
I AM THE CHRIST PROMISED AND SENT BY THE FATHER. Is our first and foremost adherence to his teachings.

I am sorry, what are you saying? The sermon on the mount is not significant?
And you are saying Jesus was teaching classic Judaism.
I think what you are sharing is Jesus is just sharing the impossible high standard of Jewish faith so can be ignored.

What you ignore is why the disciples wrote this all down after the resurrection to teach believers how to walk.
And secondly, as you say, it is teaching out of the Psalms, which is also repeated by the apostles, so these teachings
are eternal in nature and we cannot ignore or dismiss them.

I see the phrase our first and foremost adherence is repeating obedience is only believing Jesus is the Christ.
This is so lame, because it is a denial of the gospels and Paul and everything.

The logic here is selective. One phrase in the gospels dismisses all the moral teaching about sin and walking
in His ways. Only a sinful people who hate repenting of their sin would suggest such a thing.

But I know your school of theology, free grace, so of course we will not agree. God bless you.