Why I believe sin is a choice.
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Actually I am one of those with the view that Jesus could not have sin (as a verb). Basically, I believe in the impeccability of Christ. So there is nothing negative about the question I posed.
That’s how kids learn what not to do and what the parent wants them to do but hopefully at some point the child will understand the spiritual reason of why they were being punished or rewarded physically.
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A child Is told by the parent to look both ways before crossing the street and one day the parent Is looking out the window at their child and the child Is getting ready to cross the street.The child just runs across the street without looking both ways but they were ok and nothing bad happened.When the child returned home the parent told the child,you didn’t look both ways before crossing the street,and then gave the child a whooping,hopefully at some point the child will mature enough to understand that the punishment wasn’t for not looking both ways before crossing the street but about them being safe.
Google for "impeccability of Christ" first and you might understand that your argument is not as valid as you think it is.
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I disagree with this completely, sin is not a choice it is in our nature. We can sin unconsciously as well as consciously. We were made very good but not perfect. We were made how ever to serve will you serve sin or serve God? That is the choice.
To say our first parents had a choice I believe says God tempted them. Forbidding the eating of the tree which is a direct contradiction to the word of God.
Okay, not all of us are interested to read different perspectives. I understand, cheers.
Stop a bit and ponder this: prior to salvation a person can choose to sin or not to sin
But - every single person born has chosen to sin -- that is why we need a redeemer! We do not need a Redeemer because God made us in a flawed manner and thus we cannot help but sin, and so he must fix the problem!
Only one person ever did not choose to sin - and that was Jesus.
Actually I am one of those with the view that Jesus could not have sin (as a verb). Basically, I believe in the impeccability of Christ. So there is nothing negative about the question I posed.
I used to feel that way too - that Jesus could not have chosen to sin.
But I feel otherwise - Scripture says "he was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin" -- if it would have been impossible for him to sin, then then his temptations were not really valid - not "as we are" for we are very capable of sin.
But it is because he was 100 % human and vulnerable as we are and yet did not choose to sin: this is what qualified him as the Perfect Sacrifice! Praise the Lord!
What if you found out that the term Sin in that verse you quoted is actually a noun, instead of what u assumed as a verb? Would it change your view?
Of course the word "sin" in Hebrews 4:15 is a noun: "he was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin". The word for "sin" (noun) is harmatia and the word for "sin" (verb) is harmatano. (Same root just as in English we use "sin" as a verb and a noun)
Then your entire second paragraph in the previous post does not make sense. Your last two sentences contradict your topic sentence.
Your concluding paragraph is also contradictory.
anyone who says sin is not a choice is arguing in favor of sin. its a choice. this is something we should stand for and be dogmatic and absolute of. to say sin is not a choice is lifting our hands up in the air and saying oh well let sin reign free cant help it anyway.
Romans 6:16 Don't you know that if you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of that one you obey--either of sin leading to death or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Romans 6:16 Don't you know that if you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of that one you obey--either of sin leading to death or of obedience leading to righteousness?
If you want to make a huge difference between the verb (sin) and the noun (sin) you may do so, that is your prerogative. But the Greek language does not demand such a difference. The meaning of both the noun (harmartia) and the verb (hamartano) are determined by the root meaning and then also by the context and the way the word is used.
Actually, its the noun that leads to the verb and not vice versa.
We are not sinners (noun) because we sinned (verb), we sinned because we are sinners. This causality is the foundation of Paul's exposition of the sin problem in the book of Romans.
He explained it especially carefully in Romans 5:12-19: We are sinners because of Adam's sin (verb: his disobedience in the Garden of Eden).
Jesus was different because he did not inherit the sinner's blood from Adam like all of us did. His blood came directly from his Father, that is why it necessitated the virgin birth. He could not have sinned (verb) because he did not possess the sinful nature (noun) that all of us inherited from Adam as a "free gift".
When Jesus died on the cross, he took our sinful nature (noun) and not our sinful actions (verb). It was our sinful nature that separated us from God. When Paul said we have died to sin, it is the nature he was referring to, and not the verb.