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dcontroversal said:
so what...Paul called people that believe faith plus works for salvation fools.......context means everything Marigold......
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Different greek word (anoetas) with a different meaning. Anoetas doesn't mean stupid, it means unwise.
 
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gb9 said:
yesterday, peter straight up told me that emotions and feelings create reality. so, if someone's views are controlled by feelings and not facts, it is a waste of time to try to have a realistic interaction with them..
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What does that have to do with calling people stupid or a meatball?
 
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dcontroversal said:
so what...Paul called people that believe faith plus works for salvation fools.......context means everything Marigold......
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Bump...Different greek word (anoetas) with a different meaning. Anoetas doesn't mean stupid, it means unwise.
 
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ANYWAY....back to the regularly scheduled program..........

JESUS saves by faith.......no works attached.....fruit will be produced AFTER a period of growth and maturity.....and ALL who have been genuinely born again from above have already done the works of the Heavenly Father in belief.........
 
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gb9 said:
yesterday, peter straight up told me that emotions and feelings create reality. so, if someone's views are controlled by feelings and not facts, it is a waste of time to try to have a realistic interaction with them..
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I made a mistake. This is a bit like someone living on the moon cannot understand a tropical rain forest, lol.
But Jesus calls us to live in the rain forest and experience the depth and breadth of life in Him.

Thank you Jesus.
 
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Peter lists like 7 things that must be added to our faith and then states that if these be in you, you will not be barren.........indicating a period of growth and maturity....
 
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dcontroversal said:
ANYWAY....back to the regularly scheduled program..........

JESUS saves by faith.......no works attached.....fruit will be produced AFTER a period of growth and maturity.....and ALL who have been genuinely born again from above have already done the works of the Heavenly Father in belief.........
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Is it Christlike to call people idiots

DC- so what...Paul called people that believe faith plus works for salvation fools.......context means everything Marigold......

Mac- .Different greek word (anoetas) with a different meaning. Anoetas doesn't mean stupid, it means unwise.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Peter lists like 7 things that must be added to our faith and then states that if these be in you, you will not be barren.........indicating a period of growth and maturity....
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Are you sure he's not talking about the danger of BECOMING barren and unfruitful?

A person with faith cannot bear fruit yet?
 
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1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Matt 7

The trouble with dismissing ones enemies, they may be your friends speaking Gods
words to your heart. Loving your enemies is actually about loving yourself and
understanding we all have similar weaknesses and have so much we need still
to grow into.
 
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Macabeus said:
Is it Christlike to call people idiots

DC- so what...Paul called people that believe faith plus works for salvation fools.......context means everything Marigold......

Mac- .Different greek word (anoetas) with a different meaning. Anoetas doesn't mean stupid, it means unwise.
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No need to respond to your false allegations and or a denial that some times the men of GOD used particular names and or designations....grow up and do not be so easily offended....
 
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dcontroversal said:
If these things be in you....after he states to ADD them........I am sure.....
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He does not say how many you need to add to avoid being barren and unfruitful. Does this mean one must have ALL of THEM before they can bear fruit?
 
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dcontroversal said:
No need to respond to your false allegations and or denial that some times the men of GOD used particular names and or designations....grow up and do not be so easily offended....
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Name one person in the Bible that called someone an idiot.

I am not offended. I just see a pattern that needs to be pointed out.

Mature Christians do not use the words "idiot", "retarded" or stupid

Do you want the post where you said "retarded"?
 
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Macabeus said:
He does not say how many you need to add to avoid being barren and unfruitful. Does this mean one must have ALL of THEM before they can bear fruit?
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He says to add all and IF THESE (PLURAL) be in you.....the reference is to ALL......
 
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dcontroversal said:
ANYWAY....back to the regularly scheduled program..........

JESUS saves by faith.......no works attached.....fruit will be produced AFTER a period of growth and maturity.....and ALL who have been genuinely born again from above have already done the works of the Heavenly Father in belief.........
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Another thing that is in my head , correct me if I am wrong ( I know you will ) but was it not faith alone in God that David had before he even slung that shot at Goliath ?...xox...
 
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Macabeus said:
Name one person in the Bible that called someone an idiot.

I am not offended. I just see a pattern that needs to be pointed out.

Mature Christians do not use the words "idiot", "retarded" or stupid

Do you want the post where you said "retarded"?
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NNTRTYQ..........
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Another thing that is in my head , correct me if I am wrong ( I know you will ) but was it not faith alone in God that David had before he even slung that shot at Goliath ?...xox...
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Exactly......he even states as much and gives ALL glory to GOD before he takes Goliath down.......
 
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