If that's the case, you could put the whole New Testament in the context of the first century and say "That does not apply to me and has no relevance today".
WHEAT ... v ... TARES
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Who is planting each seed?
The seed, and subsequent plant, doesn't morph into the other plant. If God plants the wheat seed, it WILL grow into wheat!
If satan plants the tare seed, it will grow into a tare.
The seed, and subsequent plant, doesn't morph into the other plant. If God plants the wheat seed, it WILL grow into wheat!
If satan plants the tare seed, it will grow into a tare.
I find this confusing cos of the two different ways people interpret the passage.
If wheat and tares repressent the church, then the tares that are burned, is that the christians who get cremated? And the wheat would be those saved who are not cremated but buried. After all, wheat seed later gets buried to grow more wheat, not burned. Weed seeds/ tares need to be burned otherwise they grow into more weeds. They say one years weed, seven years seed.
If the wheat and tares repesent only jewish believers and unbelievers, then the end of the age has already come? Would the burning just refer to the burning of Jerusalem, or its it like the holocaust or something.
If wheat and tares repressent the church, then the tares that are burned, is that the christians who get cremated? And the wheat would be those saved who are not cremated but buried. After all, wheat seed later gets buried to grow more wheat, not burned. Weed seeds/ tares need to be burned otherwise they grow into more weeds. They say one years weed, seven years seed.
If the wheat and tares repesent only jewish believers and unbelievers, then the end of the age has already come? Would the burning just refer to the burning of Jerusalem, or its it like the holocaust or something.
Rewriting the bible in your own image? Jesus says tares and He means tares.
The age of the New Covenant had just begun. These parables were not limited to Israel, they were being set aside temporarily and Jesus knew it full well.
It was funny to me...........
....and, I have it on good Authority (Tourist) that you are no longer a holy tare...........
Wonder if anyone ever thought of what is done with wheat? You know, ground into fine powder, mixed together with other ingredients and baked into bread...........and such......
Is that kinda neat?
I never understood why people interpret wheat and tares about saved and unsaved people within the Church when Jesus clearly explains the parable to the disciples.
Wheat = saved (planted by God)
Tares = unsaved ( planted by the evil one - people who are controlled by the spirit of this world?)
Field = the world
Now how is it that some interpret it as people who think they are saved but attend church?
Wheat = saved (planted by God)
Tares = unsaved ( planted by the evil one - people who are controlled by the spirit of this world?)
Field = the world
Now how is it that some interpret it as people who think they are saved but attend church?
I think I know what you're trying to get at but Jesus wasn't talking about the church.
And He was very clear about that.
Yes, tares look identical to wheat......until they are mature. An enemy would sow tares into the wheat field of his enemy, in an attempt to destroy his household and livelihood.
"The wedding parable, the vineyard parable and the wheat and tare parable have all the same motif and context - Jews/Israel and rejection of Jesus.'
Your hermeneutics are in severe error. These two parables are not in the least similar. And certainly not the way you have interpreted them.
Absolutely wrong. The relevant scriptural reference to define the where and when and what of the "harvest" is Joel 3:11 etc.
The eschatology is yet future from today. Not 70 AD, not during the ministry of Christ, not the ministry of the Apostles.
"Hasten and come,
all you surrounding nations,
and gather yourselves there.
Bring down your warriors, O Lord.
12Let the nations stir themselves up
and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat;
for there I will sit to judge
all the surrounding nations.
13Put in the sickle,
for the harvest is ripe.
Go in, tread,
for the winepress is full.
The vats overflow,
for their evil is great.
14Multitudes, multitudes,
in the valley of decision!
For the day of the Lord is near
in the valley of decision.
15The sun and the moon are darkened,
and the stars withdraw their shining.
16The Lord roars from Zion,
and utters his voice from Jerusalem,
and the heavens and the earth quake.
But the Lord is a refuge to his people,
a stronghold to the people of Israel."
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Tares are mostly a nuisance.
The primary problem is their roots; which get entangled with crop roots so
much so that had farmers in that day pulled up the tares, they would've
pulled up their crop too; which is why it was best to leave the tares be until
harvest.
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Tares are mostly a nuisance.
The primary problem is their roots; which get entangled with crop roots so
much so that had farmers in that day pulled up the tares, they would've
pulled up their crop too; which is why it was best to leave the tares be until
harvest.
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The book of Matthew is the most Jewish centric among all the 4 gospels. A number of passages appear in Matthew do not appear in the other 3, and showed the Jewish focus, esp Matt 24, which refers to the tribulation period.
Thus I believe that this passage is also referring to the Jews and not the body of Christ. The latter was a mystery hidden in God, and was not revealed yet in Matthew.
And IMO tares symbolizes unsaved people In church coming across as saved.Just my opinion.
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Exactly, audience relevance.....why would the Jews need to hear about nominal Christians of this present century?
It always needs to be understood first within the direct audience, the listeners at the time.
And IMO tares symbolizes unsaved people In church coming across as saved.Just my opinion.
But Jesus explained the parable.