Not By Works
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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 3:24,
"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Romans 8:32,
"He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"
1 Corinthians 2:12,
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."
Revelation 21:6,
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."
Revelation 22:17,
"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
You say salvation is a reward... but the bible says it is a gift, freely given by grace through faith
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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 3:24,
"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Romans 8:32,
"He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"
1 Corinthians 2:12,
"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God."
Revelation 21:6,
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."
Revelation 22:17,
"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
You say salvation is a reward... but the bible says it is a gift, freely given by grace through faith
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It states that over the last two years a plethora of salvation losers and workers for have come and gone while peddling conflated gospels, deceitful twisted truths and a rejection of the word of GOD.........now.....go read the whole thread....we have covered MANY topics and rabbits.....
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You better learn to trust in Jesus instead of yourself and your own understanding.
In God's inspired written Word He has left instructions for the decieved, encouragement for His children, and many verses for reproof so that we can be more effective seeing His will in greater detail.
Ultimately, with the scriptures in context.... we are indeed saved by Jesus and not of ourselves.
In God's inspired written Word He has left instructions for the decieved, encouragement for His children, and many verses for reproof so that we can be more effective seeing His will in greater detail.
Ultimately, with the scriptures in context.... we are indeed saved by Jesus and not of ourselves.
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Why do you leave the last part?
Eph 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.
Eph 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.
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It is funny, dc realised he was wrong about the vine and branches and scrubbed the whole posting.
Some groups believe no branches are cut off the vine, just tied up and will have fruit later, except this
is not what the parable says, so is just rewriting scripture.
And the lesson is simple dc does not have Jesus's words dwelling in His heart, because the meaning is simple.
Abide, fruit, will be refined, no fruit, cut off.
Do not abide, die, thrown in the fire.
Abiding in the vine is such a central theme in Jesus, any serious believer would know these realities.
Some groups believe no branches are cut off the vine, just tied up and will have fruit later, except this
is not what the parable says, so is just rewriting scripture.
And the lesson is simple dc does not have Jesus's words dwelling in His heart, because the meaning is simple.
Abide, fruit, will be refined, no fruit, cut off.
Do not abide, die, thrown in the fire.
Abiding in the vine is such a central theme in Jesus, any serious believer would know these realities.
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Warnings --->Loss of reward, shame, chastisement and maybe even the forfeiture of physical life......
But hey....salvation losers will peddle that until they face the Lord in the MANY grouping......BUT LORD...did we not DO many wonderful works in your name.....
They trust in self and NOT JESUS......
But hey....salvation losers will peddle that until they face the Lord in the MANY grouping......BUT LORD...did we not DO many wonderful works in your name.....
They trust in self and NOT JESUS......
Fruit is works from the love that dwells in our hearts, words that come from the word that dwells in our hearts.
Every believer in Christ knows these truths because it happens in their lives, when the truth of Christ is
personally expressed as they witness to Him.
And knowing what the fruit is does not change whether it appears or otherwise, because this is the work of
God.
It is odd that some argue fruitless people are actually saved, while their fruitless state is not their choice,
rather it is a reflection of the lack of life in Christ in the hearts. God bless you
Every believer in Christ knows these truths because it happens in their lives, when the truth of Christ is
personally expressed as they witness to Him.
And knowing what the fruit is does not change whether it appears or otherwise, because this is the work of
God.
It is odd that some argue fruitless people are actually saved, while their fruitless state is not their choice,
rather it is a reflection of the lack of life in Christ in the hearts. God bless you