Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

You've answered nothing and again ignore scripture and lean on your opinions.😔
Just the last page alone has everything you would need to see your error.
I pray God opens your eyes and you turn from your false doctrines of man.

I pray this for you also, that Jesus might fill your heart with His love, His bountiful victory,
that you might know how nothing matters beyond knowing Him and following His ways, the
ways of life and heaven, that insecurity, doubts, hurt, pain fly away to be filled with overwhelming
acceptance and forgiveness, so the false doctrines of man seem like ash in the fire. God bless you

 

[DeighAnn]

Please no hypocritical games....

I have posted many verses in context where you cherry pick one at a time and never address anything.

You still haven't answered my question from a week ago and I've asked four times.


Please before you point your finger again look in the mirror.


Also you are the one claiming to know things not found in scripture, show me where salvation is called a reward please.



Do you know why we are made new? The gift of salvation is His love for us, and the gifts of the Holy spirit and new heart and new affections are for His love for others and righteousness.

Of course we are bought with a price, for a purpose but we are His and will in no wise be cast out.

You have yet to rebuttle any reproof with anything outside of cherry picked verses with no understanding of what they mean and your own thoughts and opinions....

How can you judge what he understands of the meaning of the Word. You may believe you "know the truth" but there is a lot written BY GOD that points in another direction. Because he does not hold your beliefs he is wrong?? What if the path GOD set for him is different? Who are you to judge another mans servant. I may be wrong, God judge me.

 

[Noose]

11 And this is the testimony: that God has given to us eternal life, and this the life is in His Son. 12 The one having the Son has the life; the one not having the Son of God does not have the life.


[Jesus, who had said, "I AM... THE LIFE"]

The one who has the son, is the one who keeps His commands:

John 14:21
Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."

1 John 2:3
By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.

 

[Noose]

You've answered nothing and again ignore scripture and lean on your opinions.😔

Just the last page alone has everything you would need to see your error.


I pray God opens your eyes and you turn from your false doctrines of man.

Ok, what do you understand by this:

Matt 24:13But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

Doesn't this mean that the one who doesn't persevere to the end shall not be saved?

 

[stonesoffire]

Aaah, this doesn't sound like a done deal:

John 15:1I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. 2He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, and every branch that does bear fruit, He prunes to make it even more fruitful. 3You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me.

Maybe this part is missing in your bible.

Has anyone ever thought that possibly Jesus is addressing the 12 tribes here and not His owned body?

 

[Noose]

Has anyone ever thought that possibly Jesus is addressing the 12 tribes here and not His owned body?

That doesn't matter IMO. Brunches are never eternally attached to Jesus, Gentile or Jew, anyone can fall from Grace.

 

[DeighAnn]

Has anyone ever thought that possibly Jesus is addressing the 12 tribes here and not His owned body?

Yes

 

[stonesoffire]

Has anyone ever thought that possibly Jesus is addressing the 12 tribes here and not His owned body?

The reason why I think this, is it’s before anyone was born again. He was speaking to followers here.

 

[stonesoffire]

That doesn't matter IMO. Brunches are never eternally attached to Jesus, Gentile or Jew, anyone can fall from Grace.

You can’t fall from grace unless you turn to law. Hebrews.

 

[DeighAnn]

That doesn't matter IMO. Brunches are never eternally attached to Jesus, Gentile or Jew, anyone can fall from Grace.

First, is there a page to find out what the IMO and others mean? Second is Brunches Branches? The promise to Israel is eternal under the Abrahamic Covenant correct?

 

[stonesoffire]

That doesn't matter IMO. Brunches are never eternally attached to Jesus, Gentile or Jew, anyone can fall from Grace.

Branches of Israel were and still are the 12 tribes when referring to the physical nation not the spiritual.

 

[stonesoffire]

First, is there a page to find out what the IMO and others mean? Second is Brunches Branches? The promise to Israel is eternal under the Abrahamic Covenant correct?

In my opinion. No page I know of and yes.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

How can I picture when someone asks me a question on cc?

Someone holding a blunderbuss. The words come out, "I asked you a question so answer or else"
"Or else I will judge you to Hell and God will agree with me"

Imagine someone coming into a shop as an angry customer to complain about a bad service.
The response is not you will burn in hell for all eternity or answer my complaint?

I hope you can see the absurdity of this and how funny it really is, as well as pompous and arrogant.
But then those who are so sensitive to pomposity in others often suffer from it a lot, lot more

 

[Noose]

Branches of Israel were and still are the 12 tribes when referring to the physical nation not the spiritual.

IMO, brunches are believers (Jew or Gentile), coz in the new covenant, we don't have Jew or Gentile anymore.

 

[stonesoffire]

Well, this might be a bunny trail so will drop it, but it just popped up in my thoughts.

 

[dcontroversal]

The atoning sacrifice is a free gift to the world, not only you, but only those that are obedient partake it:

1 John 2:2He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Matt 24:13But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

More conflation = false gospel....
Until you get through your head that you cannot conflate truths and be right you will continue to walk in error and darkness......

Matthew 24 Is NOT about salvation....get that though your head

 

[Noose]

First, is there a page to find out what the IMO and others mean? Second is Brunches Branches? The promise to Israel is eternal under the Abrahamic Covenant correct?

'Branch' - English not my first language.

In My Opinion, Abrahamic covenant is eternal and in eternity, there will not be Israel as Nation not Jews as a tribe.

 

[DeighAnn]

You can’t fall from grace unless you turn to law. Hebrews.

Where in Hebrews does it say "you will fall from grace by turning to the law"? Please

 

[stonesoffire]

Ok, I was waiting to answer. What Jesus is actually speaking about when talking about endurance is our first love. He assures us we will have tribulation but is asking will our love for Him remain?

 

[DeighAnn]

More conflation = false gospel....
Until you get through your head that you cannot conflate truths and be right you will continue to walk in error and darkness......

Matthew 24 Is NOT about salvation....get that though your head

Until you start teaching no one will learn. How you don't see pointing out what you see are the problems without teaching your solutions is never going to work I don't know. Shall I just write your retorts so you don't have to?