Works can NEVER earn salvation

[FollowHisSteps]

goodness gracious, so Moses, David, EVERYBODY before Jesus, all in hell burning forever because they made one mistake and committed a sin? i cant believe you are tying to sell this.

Hi Jay,

I think EG just left the room of sanity. Moses spoke face to face with God, and lived. He glowed from these encounters
so brightly the people got scared. To suggest that the sacrifices for sin did not make the priests Holy is to actually
deny the Lords words and commands.

Moses was supported and defended by God, Korah was swallowed live into the ground and the 250 priests were killed
by fire.

Moses appeared with Jesus on the mountain of transfiguration, showing Moses was close to Gods heart, and
whatever issues there were they are 100% resolved.

On this basis it is fair to say if anyone says Moses is going to the lake of fire, they have simply gone nuts.
It does not surprise me, as the alternative to bashing your head against the truth is for ones mind to finally
crack. I try very hard to trust and let my heart and mind follow Gods leading, and then work through the
issues. So this stand is not even close to being sensible, it is like an open goal, a sad end to a ministry that
had promise. God bless you

 

[Leastamongmany]

Hi least,

Who is EG? I never knew him. I remember this common phrase I see him repeating,
you do not know what I believe at all. Well I am glad that is the case, because I do not
want to know, I much rather learn from Jesus and follow His ways.

The best fellowship I have ever had is just sharing the love we share in Christ and how
he meets our needs and helps us to overcome our situations day in day out.
God bless you as you follow Jesus and His way, Amen[/QUOT

EG is eternally-grateful and I believe it's a she! E.G. said if I agree with You, if you are Peter Jenz,then she feels sad or sorry for me! I do think you and I agree and think spiritually the same! E.G. also said the scriptures says the above,it was a discussion about the law and that the law could save no one! It was God's law to help His ppl Israel maintain a right relationship with Him before Jesus became the saviour. It was effective when God first commanded it but we know how the Jewish ppl distorted,rebelled against and even backside from God! E.G. also stated you're on ignore...lol I probably am also! I do not know where some ppl get their thoughts from,it certainly is from MY KJV BIBLE! Blessings

 

[dcontroversal]

@eternally-gratefull is a guy, married with kids and if you all thinks he believes Moses is in hell....either you all have misread him or are twisting what he has said and or believes.......

It is amazing to me....people that believe in the loss of salvation or maintaining salvation by self effort will regularly do that which is contrary to the truth........

No wonder the number will be many that expect to get in and end up being cast into the pit!!

 

[Leastamongmany]

I apologize E.G. I didn't know your gender. I didn't say he said it ,I asked him had he said it! You said it dc it AMAZES ME TOO,how some ppl can be so very blind to the truth and act contrary to Jesus words! My judgement will be at Jesus judgement not some man on earth....we shall see for broad is the way that leads to destruction! Those wearing blinders and liking their ears tickled by preachers that espouse belief contrary to what the word says are heading there in their own rockets under their own steam!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

IMO this theology is not very wise because it doesnt improve you at all, i mean how could it when all you have to do is sit on the couch all day and proclaim "i believe" and yet do nothing.
this is quite the opposite of how Jesus instructed the 12. He was pretty tough on those guys, always encouraging them to work harder, and never once tells them to stay at home and let Him do all the work. when Peter walked to Jesus on the water and fell, Jesus didnt tell him from now on He would carry him all the time, He told him to have greater faith.
how would you ever pass school when you momma does all your homework?

Your about e reported for slander dude. If i was you I would back off.. I do not tolerate liars at all.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i asked you if everyone was in hell before Jesus, you said thats what scripture says.

sometimes we have to resort to these childish games in order to get people to see the childish things they try to teach.

According to scripture 1 sin will get you to hell. That’s why you need Christ

That is what I was saying

If you do not like it that’s to bad

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Did YOU SAY MOSES,DAVID AND ALL BEFORE CHRIST ARE FOREVER IN HELL? AND THAT'S WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS?

No I did not

I said according to the law 1 sin brings the curse of the law and apart from grace ther is no escape

 

[eternally-gratefull]

@eternally-gratefull is a guy, married with kids and if you all thinks he believes Moses is in hell....either you all have misread him or are twisting what he has said and or believes.......

It is amazing to me....people that believe in the loss of salvation or maintaining salvation by self effort will regularly do that which is contrary to the truth........

No wonder the number will be many that expect to get in and end up being cast into the pit!!

They attack because they have no truth and it’s all they have left

So
Someone thinks I am a she? Lol

 

[dcontroversal]

According to scripture 1 sin will get you to hell. That’s why you need Christ

That is what I was saying

If you do not like it that’s to bad

It is impossible to engage someone that cannot understand English or one that twists everything said....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I apologize E.G. I didn't know your gender. I didn't say he said it ,I asked him had he said it! You said it dc it AMAZES ME TOO,how some ppl can be so very blind to the truth and act contrary to Jesus words! My judgement will be at Jesus judgement not some man on earth....we shall see for broad is the way that leads to destruction! Those wearing blinders and liking their ears tickled by preachers that espouse belief contrary to what the word says are heading there in their own rockets under their own steam!

It’s all good I have thought ladies were me

Remember. Peter is a twice banned member that man is her in sin meaning every time he posts he is in sin. How can you trust a habitual sinner? You can’t. That man can say what he wants it’s meaningless chatter

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is impossible to engage someone that cannot understand English or one that twists everything said....

They hate grace

 

[Jackson123]

Moses. -

Deuteronomy 27:26
‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’ “And all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’ ”

Paul

Gal 3: 10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”

James

James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

Those who claim you can keep the law. Ignore these passages.

Only one person ever kept the law. And fulfill it, Thats christ.

So after accept Jesus breaking the law is ok

 

[jaybird88]

Your about e reported for slander dude. If i was you I would back off.. I do not tolerate liars at all.

if im a liar how bout proving me a liar rather than basing it on "because i say you are".
and now your throwing out the "im reporting you threats", a bit dirty dont you think. 500 years ago would you be one of those in the crowd shouting BURN THEM!

 

[jaybird88]

According to scripture 1 sin will get you to hell. That’s why you need Christ

That is what I was saying

If you do not like it that’s to bad

i get that part, what you fail to understand is what of all the people before Jesus and those that never heard of Jesus. thats the issue you either dont get or are avoiding.

 

[Leastamongmany]

It’s all good I have thought ladies were me

Remember. Peter is a twice banned member that man is her in sin meaning every time he posts he is in sin. How can you trust a habitual sinner? You can’t. That man can say what he wants it’s meaningless chatter

How do you know he is in sin? I have read his post and He admonishes against sin!

 

[Guojing]

How do you know he is in sin? I have read his post and He admonishes against sin!

Haven't you realized their modus operandi?

Whenever you think differently from their "truth" and if you cannot be convinced by them, they will start calling you all kinds of names, including unsaved, sinner, liar, twister etc etc.

 

[Leastamongmany]

Haven't you realized their modus operandi?

Whenever you think differently from their "truth" and if you cannot be convinced by them, they will start calling you all kinds of names, including unsaved, sinner, liar, twister etc etc.

Yes,I am VERY AWARE! I have been called a hypocrite, a salvation loser,and a liar.....now I'm to be pitied I guess!

 

[Jackson123]

Haven't you realized their modus operandi?

Whenever you think differently from their "truth" and if you cannot be convinced by them, they will start calling you all kinds of names, including unsaved, sinner, liar, twister etc etc.

All we can do is love each other and forgive each other, brother. I know it is not easy but it worth to learn

 

[Guojing]

All we can do is love each other and forgive each other, brother. I know it is not easy but it worth to learn

As I have earlier stated to dcon:

Gentleness and humility is a fruit of the spirit. If you truly believe what you say is the truth, why is there a need to resort to name calling? As others have stated to you, God don't need us to show such aggression. People have to come to the truth at their own timing, and not yours.

In my opinion, how you treat people over the Internet, whom you are unlikely to ever meet in real life and hence they are unable to benefit nor cost you, is a good indication of how much of those you manifest.

 

[Jackson123]

As I have earlier stated to dcon:

Gentleness and humility is a fruit of the spirit. If you truly believe what you say is the truth, why is there a need to resort to name calling? As others have stated to you, God don't need us to show such aggression. People have to come to the truth at their own timing, and not yours.

In my opinion, how you treat people over the Internet, whom you are unlikely to ever meet in real life and hence they are unable to benefit nor cost you, is a good indication of how much of those you manifest.

As long as we do it for love brother. Some time it look like hate but it is love in his heart