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But if you call me satan, will i listen?!
One day is a good bet.
The difference between me and you is that i have been there once. I believed in all that and i'm not going back.
One day is a good bet.
The difference between me and you is that i have been there once. I believed in all that and i'm not going back.
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There is no such thing as dual aspect of salvation, all these time you've been arguing but never telling us which aspect of salvation you are talking about.
Paul communicating to Romans by the way of a letter did not expound on the dual aspect of salvation so that they clearly know from which aspect he was talking. They received the letter and read it the way Paul meant it. No such thing as dual aspect.
Paul not once but several times said the same thing.
Of course we are being saved from something, that something is eternal death. There's no other salvation- we are not being saved from this earthly body to have a glorified body.
Paul communicating to Romans by the way of a letter did not expound on the dual aspect of salvation so that they clearly know from which aspect he was talking. They received the letter and read it the way Paul meant it. No such thing as dual aspect.
Paul not once but several times said the same thing.
Of course we are being saved from something, that something is eternal death. There's no other salvation- we are not being saved from this earthly body to have a glorified body.
1 Sam 15: 22But Samuel declared: “Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD?Behold, obedience is better than sacrifice, and attentiveness is better than the fat of rams.
mmmh, sin is nothing more than disobedience, righteousness is the opposite.
mmmh, sin is nothing more than disobedience, righteousness is the opposite.
You don't get it. Christ came to save the world
1 John 2: 2He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. 3By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.
Rom 5:
6For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7For rarely will anyone to die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9Therefore, since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from wrath through Him! 10For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life!
Christ's atoning sacrifice at the cross is not for specific people, it is for the whole world. The whole world was saved at the cross already, before you were even born and while you were still a sinner. The world did not do anything to be justified but we were justified by that sacrifice- this is what it means sufficient grace.
But to those that the law of Christ (Gospel) reached (You and me), we are either condemned if we reject it or will be save at the end if we accept it and hold firm. Those that the law has not reached (children/disabled/ sickly), they remain saved.
Now:
Rom 8:22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently.
You can not hope for what you already have and there are not two salvations, just one against eternal death.
1 John 2: 2He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. 3By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.
Rom 5:
6For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7For rarely will anyone to die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9Therefore, since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from wrath through Him! 10For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life!
Christ's atoning sacrifice at the cross is not for specific people, it is for the whole world. The whole world was saved at the cross already, before you were even born and while you were still a sinner. The world did not do anything to be justified but we were justified by that sacrifice- this is what it means sufficient grace.
But to those that the law of Christ (Gospel) reached (You and me), we are either condemned if we reject it or will be save at the end if we accept it and hold firm. Those that the law has not reached (children/disabled/ sickly), they remain saved.
Now:
Rom 8:22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently.
You can not hope for what you already have and there are not two salvations, just one against eternal death.
I hope you don't mind but I stalked you.
Read about you.
Your birthday is May 17. Mine is May 15.
You were saved in the same year as I was.
Don't know your age but I'm 51.
You are male.
Now this surprised me given the quote above.
Because men do not generally speak like this.
"I rejoice for you beloved"
Men do not normally relate that way. Well not over here.
I thought you were female.
I interpreted your post as someone who loves me.
Jesus said beloved meaning he loves them.
Now I may have got my thoughts wrong but for me I genuinely believe that us men need to express our love for each other.
Just like David and Jonathan did.
God bless you beloved brother.
Read about you.
Your birthday is May 17. Mine is May 15.
You were saved in the same year as I was.
Don't know your age but I'm 51.
You are male.
Now this surprised me given the quote above.
Because men do not generally speak like this.
"I rejoice for you beloved"
Men do not normally relate that way. Well not over here.
I thought you were female.
I interpreted your post as someone who loves me.
Jesus said beloved meaning he loves them.
Now I may have got my thoughts wrong but for me I genuinely believe that us men need to express our love for each other.
Just like David and Jonathan did.
God bless you beloved brother.
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You know....The rich man while burning in hell told Abraham that the law and prophets would not work and or keep his 5 brothers from coming into that place of torment.......and it was told to him by ONE that was not in HELL, but rather in paradise with the other poor sap that was being comforted.....the same Lazarus that lay at his gates full of sores......
People will ride error with eyes wide shut straight to the pits of hell and STILL refuse to to believe the correct message..even while burning in hell!!!!!
People will ride error with eyes wide shut straight to the pits of hell and STILL refuse to to believe the correct message..even while burning in hell!!!!!
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