Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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SO you do not believe Jesus when He told the disciples to go to Gentiles?
Or Peter when he said God sent him to Gentiles?
Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."
Or Peter when he said God sent him to Gentiles?
Acts 15:6-7, “So the apostles and the elders met to consider this statement. After a lengthy debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God chose me to be the one among you through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the gospel and believe."
IF it is how you say the all would have been fulfilled BEFORE His sacrifice to even make it acceptable.Or Jesus is the REAL Passover lamb.
Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”
Luke 16:16-17, " 16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. 17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.
Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”
Luke 16:16-17, " 16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. 17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.
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this is why I do not interact with you guys that much. instead of responding to my response to you, you jumped somewhere else in Scripture, then fire off another question that has nothing to do with what I said back to you.
so, this is what Hebrew roots does. one of goals is to try to keep Christians off balance by hop-schothing all over the Bible and keep them on the defensive by firing off endless questions and usually not responding to what is said back to you.
nothing new, just more of the same.
so, this is what Hebrew roots does. one of goals is to try to keep Christians off balance by hop-schothing all over the Bible and keep them on the defensive by firing off endless questions and usually not responding to what is said back to you.
nothing new, just more of the same.
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By doing what i have said since day one
1. Love others, out their needs above your own
2. Seeking after the things of the spirit
3. In seeking and loving, you produce fruit of the spirit, (in this case sharing each others burdens)
You cant be told how to do this by the law, you learn it by taking hods love and sharing that and using it to empower you to love each other
1. Love others, out their needs above your own
2. Seeking after the things of the spirit
3. In seeking and loving, you produce fruit of the spirit, (in this case sharing each others burdens)
You cant be told how to do this by the law, you learn it by taking hods love and sharing that and using it to empower you to love each other
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The red x’s just prove people have no understanding of the law
You want to become a modern day pharisee who THINKS they follow the law.. feel free
For those who want to learn to love as jesus loved, by focusing on the needs of others, and even when the disciples tried to tell him to slow down to eat, he said he had people to serve, i will pray for your continued growth and seeking
Don't let these lawyers get you down, just go forward, learn to love seek after the spirit, and when you stumble, go to christ who is your abba father,
Then as a group we can pray for these lawyers to repent.
You want to become a modern day pharisee who THINKS they follow the law.. feel free
For those who want to learn to love as jesus loved, by focusing on the needs of others, and even when the disciples tried to tell him to slow down to eat, he said he had people to serve, i will pray for your continued growth and seeking
Don't let these lawyers get you down, just go forward, learn to love seek after the spirit, and when you stumble, go to christ who is your abba father,
Then as a group we can pray for these lawyers to repent.
Greek and Interlinear-the writings that are then translated into English.
Luke 16:17 Easier for however it is the heaven and the earth to pass away, than of the law one stroke of a pen to fail
Matt 5:17 Not think that I have come to abolish the law or the Prophets, not I have come to abolish but to fulfill
18 Truly for I say to you until __shall pass away the heaven and the earth, iota one, or one stroke of a letter, no not shall pass away from the law until everything should happen
3928 parerchomai to pass by, to come to,
I pass by, pass away, pass out of sight, I am rendered void, become vain, neglect, disregard
from para and erchomai
3844 para
from beside, by the side of, by, beside
a preposition properly close beside introduces someone (something) as very "close beside"
It stresses nearness (closeness) which is often not conveyed in translation
is typically theologically significant, even when used as a prefix
usually adds the overtone "from close beside" (implying intimate participation) and can be followed by the genitive, dative or accusative case- each one conveying a distinct nuance
2064 erchomai
to come, go
So the possibility of our not understanding what is meant by these statements is our problem, NOT THE WORD. There is not a single conflict in the Word and if one is found, IT IS US WHO are lacking understanding.
What we do know it the law of Moses was "a shadow, a schoolmaster, UNTIL" Jesus came. We know it was set up as temporary. We know it wax old and decay. We know that it was given to "slaves of 400 years that had no clue how to run a society" We know the ceremonial laws and sacrificial laws are no more for we were given the lamb of God. We know the priest laws were done away when Jesus rent the veil and became our High Priest. We know there was total destruction and loss of nation to whom those laws were given. We know Jesus gave us new laws. We know when we are married to one husband we are under their laws but when the husband dies we are no longer under them and we marry another we are under the new husband laws. We know the law and the prophets WERE until John the Baptist. We know Jesus came to bring us a new Covenant. We know that all that was contrary to us was taken out. We know what the law could not do, Jesus worked and died to bring us. We know Jesus walked perfectly. We know laws dictate to us right from wrong.
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Greek __In saying new He has made obsolete the first, that then growing old and aging is near vanishing
Luke 16:17 Easier for however it is the heaven and the earth to pass away, than of the law one stroke of a pen to fail
Matt 5:17 Not think that I have come to abolish the law or the Prophets, not I have come to abolish but to fulfill
18 Truly for I say to you until __shall pass away the heaven and the earth, iota one, or one stroke of a letter, no not shall pass away from the law until everything should happen
3928 parerchomai to pass by, to come to,
I pass by, pass away, pass out of sight, I am rendered void, become vain, neglect, disregard
from para and erchomai
3844 para
from beside, by the side of, by, beside
a preposition properly close beside introduces someone (something) as very "close beside"
It stresses nearness (closeness) which is often not conveyed in translation
is typically theologically significant, even when used as a prefix
usually adds the overtone "from close beside" (implying intimate participation) and can be followed by the genitive, dative or accusative case- each one conveying a distinct nuance
2064 erchomai
to come, go
So the possibility of our not understanding what is meant by these statements is our problem, NOT THE WORD. There is not a single conflict in the Word and if one is found, IT IS US WHO are lacking understanding.
What we do know it the law of Moses was "a shadow, a schoolmaster, UNTIL" Jesus came. We know it was set up as temporary. We know it wax old and decay. We know that it was given to "slaves of 400 years that had no clue how to run a society" We know the ceremonial laws and sacrificial laws are no more for we were given the lamb of God. We know the priest laws were done away when Jesus rent the veil and became our High Priest. We know there was total destruction and loss of nation to whom those laws were given. We know Jesus gave us new laws. We know when we are married to one husband we are under their laws but when the husband dies we are no longer under them and we marry another we are under the new husband laws. We know the law and the prophets WERE until John the Baptist. We know Jesus came to bring us a new Covenant. We know that all that was contrary to us was taken out. We know what the law could not do, Jesus worked and died to bring us. We know Jesus walked perfectly. We know laws dictate to us right from wrong.
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Greek __In saying new He has made obsolete the first, that then growing old and aging is near vanishing
I agree, we are to walk in love but we must also use our minds, Satan is looking for the weak and unlearned. We are told to put on the whole gospel armor because it is all important, to withstand the fiery darts of Satan. For you, someone who has ALREADY studied the Word, those laws are within you, but when reaching out to a "new" soul, you can not tell them "just walk in love" because they won't know that means to God until they to have studied and those laws become a part of them also.
ADONIM- Is the plural of ADON, never used of man. Adonim carries with it all that Adon does, but in a greater and higher degreee ; and more especially as "owner and proprietor." And Adon may rule others who do not belong to him. Hence (without the article) it is often used of men.
But Adonim is the Lord who rules His own.
Adon is the Lord as overlord or ruler.
Adonim is the Lord as owner.
Adonai is the Lord as blesser.
But Adonim is the Lord who rules His own.
Adon is the Lord as overlord or ruler.
Adonim is the Lord as owner.
Adonai is the Lord as blesser.
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You must never study the words of Yahshua EG because clearly He did NOT consider the Pharisees "Law abiding" quite the contrary! Her referred to them as hypocrites and vipers and more.
I have pointed this out to you several times when you refer to the Pharisees as "Law keepers" and yet over and over and over you continue to cite them as Godly!
Why do you need them to be seen as Godly? Is this the only way you can justify your doctrine?
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I still think you have to obey the law, and when you don't it is a sin that calls for repentance not only for forgiveness but also to get it blotted out of the book. Just as important as love, it is of the mind, and we are held accountable. And to a higher standard. Satan wants us to obey "the letter of the law" as opposed to "the intent of the law". Remember that law we now judge is the law we will be judged by.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men for ye neither go in yourselves neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
Matthew 23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
Matthew 23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Matthew 23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
Matthew 23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Matthew 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Matthew 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Matthew 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Matthew 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Matthew 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Matthew 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
Matthew 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Matthew 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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