Not By Works

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BillG

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No. Did Jesus ask, “why don’t you believe my claims” it did He ask why do you persecute me”

What did Paul talk about when he preached to Felix? (Four things)

What is the purpose of the Law given in Romans 3:20? ( not the only purpose but the one purpose stayed there)
Therefore he had the sin of unbelief.
 
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Dia with the genetive indicates the agency or means by which an act is accomplished. Not the person or thing that performs the action, Mr. Greek scholar

There has to Be something or someone usuing an agency or means. of the act as well as an agency or means. Therefore faith alone does not save. Gods grace saves through the agency or means of faith
Did you say anything?...nope, nothing but blather!! Maybe take Greek instead of reading Strongs like you know what you are talking about....
 
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Do you want more, Under grace. If you do, I can provide ma’am Tommorow. I can throw in GB9’s INSANE strawmen too. He’s a riot.

I think I have some from you too if I recall correctly. I think I can produce a dozen or more altogether

In fact, 80 percent of the time you people accused me of works salvation
You just violated the warning @Oncefallen gave and called a man insane......
 

BillG

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Sin is an inward state of rebellion. Sins are fruits of that inward state of sin.

Yes, and unbelief is the same as rebellion. So why do you take issue witb what I said?

What did Paul talk about when He preached faith to Felix? Acts;24-25

And what is the purpose of the Law? Romans 3:19-20?
Never said I took issue with what you said.
I just asked questions.
Quote me where I said "I take issue or disagree with what you said"
 

Grandpa

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The call to repent is Gods means to bring us to repentance. Romans 2:4, the goodness of God leads you to repentance

I believe repentance is the result of the illuminating, convincing, and convicting work of the Holy Spirit

but of course this grace can be resisted
I was just about to like this post.

But then you put that last sentence on there.

I believe that the general grace that God has shown the world is resisted by some.

I do not believe that the specific Grace that causes the illuminating, convincing and convicting work of the Holy Spirit can be resisted.


Once you understand that all your blessings come from God how can you resist being blessed???

No thanks. I'll just stay cursed. I like that better.... ?????????? Doesn't make any sense. Even from a carnal perspective.
 
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Never said I took issue with what you said.
I just asked questions.
Quote me where I said "I take issue or disagree with what you said"
Bill....it is IMPOSSIBLE to engage one that CONSTANTLY SKEWS, TWISTS OR EMBELLISHES NOT ONLY THE BIBLE, but what we say as well....and then to the point of sin incessantly defends himaelf by further twisting, skewing and embellishing or rejecting what is actually said...
 
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i understand why big bro uses words like caketaker and cainologists and words like that. imagine this man has been here for long time and heard same arguments over and over again

i have only heard them for a while and i say in my mind oh please not again. like snoopy the dog (not snoop dogg) from that comic book. good grief as they say in the comic

you know its something bad when its you are not saved by works BUT....... here we go what is it.
Exactly......they may argue but then say the above....AS LONG AS We are abiding<---working for dogma based upon self no matter how they slice and dice!!