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JadenS

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JadenS said:
You are not saved; you do not have a gloried body. I am not saved; I do not have a glorified body.
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All those who disagreed with the above post do not have a gloried body which is necessary for salvation.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
Absolutely FALSE. We are saved by God's grace through our faith. NOWHERE in the bible does it say that a glorified body is needed for salvation.
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A person is not saved, for all eternity, without a glorified body. YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOW INTO HEAVEN WITHOUT A GLORIFIED BODY.
 
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We are ONLY given glorified bodies when we are given PERFECT bodies by Jesus when He raises us up. We do NOT NOW have perfect or glorified bodies on this fallen earth..

Seriously dude, read your bible. It tells you all you need to be saved FOR ALL ETERNITY.
 
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JadenS

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blue_ladybug said:
Absolutely FALSE. We are saved by God's grace through our faith. NOWHERE in the bible does it say that a glorified body is needed for salvation.
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You have to first believe Jesus Christ (CORRECT SOUND DOCTRINE 100%) before you have any chance of being saved.
 
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JadenS

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blue_ladybug said:
We are ONLY given glorified bodies when we are given PERFECT bodies by Jesus when He raises us up. We do NOT NOW have perfect or glorified bodies on this fallen earth..

Seriously dude, read your bible. It tells you all you need to be saved FOR ALL ETERNITY.
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Who Does God Favor More..?

THE DISOBEDIENT OR THE OBEDIENT HUMBLE SERVANT?
 
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JadenS said:
You have to first believe Jesus Christ (CORRECT SOUND DOCTRINE 100%) before you have any chance of being saved.
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First you say we need glorified bodies on earth in order to be saved. Now you say we need correct sound doctrine.. Just what do you think the BIBLE is? It sure isn't FALSE doctrine.. lol

Jesus says all we need is faith and His grace in order to be saved. I'll believe Jesus, not you.. :)
 
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JadenS said:
Who Does God Favor More..?

THE DISOBEDIENT OR THE OBEDIENT HUMBLE SERVANT?
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God favors sinners, since He stated Himself, that He came for sinners, not the righteous.. But naturally He wants us to do our best to be obedient.. :)
 
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JadenS said:
You have to first believe Jesus Christ (CORRECT SOUND DOCTRINE 100%) before you have any chance of being saved.
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So now salvation is not about who you know (Jesus), but what and how much you know?

There isn’t one person alive that has infallible doctrine. You would have to be omniscient.

And glorification ( receiving a new body) is the crowning glory of the work God began in us, which began at the new birth

1 Cor 15:2 says we are saved. The verb is in the present, passive, indicative, which means RIGHT NOW believers are saved
 
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blue_ladybug said:
First you say we need glorified bodies on earth in order to be saved. Now you say we need correct sound doctrine.. Just what do you think the BIBLE is? It sure isn't FALSE doctrine.. lol

Jesus says all we need is faith and His grace in order to be saved. I'll believe Jesus, not you.. :)
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If you don't believe the 100% correct sound doctrine of Jesus Christ, before you die, you will be damned.
 
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Discern said:
So now salvation is not about who you know (Jesus), but what and how much you know?

There isn’t one person alive that has infallible doctrine. You would have to be omniscient.

And glorification ( receiving a new body) is the crowning glory of the work God began in us, which began at the new birth

1 Cor 15:2 says we are saved. The verb is in the present, passive, indicative, which means RIGHT NOW believers are saved
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It is impossible to get to heaven by denying sound doctrine of Jesus Christ. It won't be our fault if you end up in hell for refusing to get an education; you won't be able to get away with claiming ignorance, since, we all have warned you.
 
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EleventhHour said:
With all due respect .... But the pot calling the kettle black really makes the pot no better but in fact worse...since they are just as guilty if not more so, since judgement and a sense of superiority was also added in.......where was the gentleness in that post?
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I agree that she was somewhat doing the same thing. But there were inappropriate posts, including some by Jayden, so maybe she’s just responding to the whole spectrum

I have seen some personal insults in various threads, which I think is inappropriate. Not saying you, sister. You seem pretty balanced
 
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JadenS said:
Where will you go without a glorified body for all eternity?
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The question you should be asking.....

How can I receive a glorified body since I have yet to respond to the gospel call and be saved in this lifetime as Jesus instructs?
 
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JadenS said:
If you don't believe the 100% correct sound doctrine of Jesus Christ, before you die, you will be damned.
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Luckily, those who know Jesus are saved. :) The bible IS SOUND DOCTRINE. However, reading the bible isn't a requirement for salvation.
 
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JadenS

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blue_ladybug said:
First you say we need glorified bodies on earth in order to be saved. Now you say we need correct sound doctrine.. Just what do you think the BIBLE is? It sure isn't FALSE doctrine.. lol

Jesus says all we need is faith and His grace in order to be saved. I'll believe Jesus, not you.. :)
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We need to get to heaven to be saved.
 
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JadenS

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blue_ladybug said:
Luckily, those who know Jesus are saved. :) The bible IS SOUND DOCTRINE. However, reading the bible isn't a requirement for salvation.
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Will you still claim to love Jesus if you end up in Hell for not believing His sound doctrine 100%.
 
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