"Susanna, post: 4109745, member: 151099"]It’s not very uplifting, at least not in the case of having a political debate, to notice how polarized people are over politics as of now.
Trump has done both good things and bad things. Economically speaking he has played his hand well. On foreign affairs not so much. On moral behavior not at all.
well you simply do not agree with his policies...that is all that is going on here
In America we are mostly concerned about the economy, like most people across the world. If a president keeps providing jobs, he’ll get re-elected in most cases.
If nothing changes dramatically before the general, I’m sure Trump will be re-elected. His moral standards will not be held against him if he continues to get results economically.
The question is whether we want a president having some sort of moral standards, or a street smart fixer.
The biggest problem with Trump is that he, like CT pointed out, has lowered the bar so much that we now find felonies to be acceptable in the USA. That’s not a good thing civilization wise.
which felonies do you have in mind here?
do you consider allowing criminals to go free...murderers included...to be moral?
how about abortion at all stages and let them die should they have the nerve to be born alive? just sparkling with morality?
how about allowing MS13 gang members to go free because after they came from a hard life and every once in a while it's good to kill to let the anger out...moral?
how about lying your face off the entire country as Schiff and others have done? the new morality or the devil bringing back his morality? take your pick. Jesus said the devil was the father of all liars and if you lie as consistently and constantly as Schiff does, whose your daddy?
Trump has lowered the bar for felonies? more kool aid with lots of sugar for you?
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials on Aug. 14 arrested and deported an illegal immigrant who is wanted in El Salvador on murder charges.
Brian Alejandro Martinez
reportedly had been arrested and freed several times in New Jersey and New York. ICE officials criticized authorities in Middlesex County, New Jersey, for releasing Martinez without notifying the federal agency.
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement in recent years has had to contend with “sanctuary” policies by cities and counties that protect illegal immigrants, the agency now faces a push by some in Congress to abolish it.President Donald Trump is scheduled to honor ICE agents Monday at a White House event, even as many congressional Democrats call for restraining or ending the agency that enforces immigration law throughout the nation’s interior.Next year, absolutely everything is on the line. Defend your principles before it is too late.
Find out more now >> The House adopted a resolution last month supporting ICE agents, but 167 Democrats refused to vote for it.Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, last month led a group of Democrats in sponsoring legislation to abolish ICE,
saying:
President Trump’s blanket directive to round up and target all undocumented immigrants underscores the unchecked power which ICE has used to terrorize our communities. From conducting raids at garden centers and meatpacking plants, to targeting families outside churches and schools, the president is using ICE as a mass-deportation force to rip apart the moral fabric of our nation.
Sadly, President Trump has so misused ICE that the agency can no longer accomplish its goals effectively. As a result, the best path forward is this legislation, which would end ICE and transfer its critical functions to other executive agencies.
“Leading Democrat politicians have called to abolish ICE—nobody even believes it, they want to abolish ICE,” Trump said last month. “In other words, they want open borders and more crime, and that’s what you’re going to get. You’ll get more crime as you open up those borders.”Primarily an immigration enforcement agency that doesn’t operate on the border, Immigration and Customs Enforcement still performs other functions. Here are four major facts about ICE, and what could happen if it ceases to exist.
1. Protecting Minority CommunitiesIf ICE were abolished, minority communities would be disproportionately harmed, said Matthew T. Albence, the agency’s executive associate director for enforcement and removal.“These minority communities are the primary victims now, because these individuals are involved in gang activity and other criminal activity and generally they commit those crimes against those in the same communities in which they reside,”
Albence told the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 31.His remarks came in an exchange during a hearing when Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, asked: “What if we just decided to abolish ICE? What would be the impact on our country in terms of public safety?”Albence responded:You cannot have strong border security with a void in the interior. If an individual knows that they can come to the country and try and try and try and eventually get past the Border Patrol, and that there is no chance of any enforcement being taken against them, then you will never have border security.What in effect you are saying if you’re getting rid of the interior enforcement arm of immigration enforcement, you’re saying you want border security, you want Border Patrol to make all these arrests and stop people there, but once they get by the Border Patrol, let them go.
2. Enforcing Immigration Law
Before 9/11, naturalization of legal immigrants and enforcement of immigration laws were under one agency—the Immigration and Naturalization Service, or INS.
When Congress created the Department of Homeland Security in 2003, it established ICE as the enforcement arm while U.S. Customs and Immigration Services would be in charge of naturalizing legal immigrants.
The 9/11 Commission noted that terrorists involved in the 2001 attacks exploited U.S. immigration rules and some of the hijackers violated the terms of their visas.
A third arm of Homeland Security, called U.S. Customs and Border Protection and including the Border Patrol, is responsible for stopping illegal immigrants from entering the country. Trump will honor that agency’s work Monday as well as ICE’s.
But once illegal immigrants slip past the border, only ICE can enforce laws on the interior, arresting and deporting illegal immigrants.
The Trump administration significantly increased enforcement compared to the Obama administration. In fiscal year 2017, which began Oct. 1, 2016, nearly four months before Trump took office, ICE made 143,470 arrests and deported 226,119 individuals.
In fiscal year 2016, the last full fiscal year of the Obama administration, the agency made 77,806 arrests. Although removals were higher that year—240,255—
ICE asserts that was “largely attributed to the decline in border apprehensions.”
The arrests during fiscal 2017 included 127,000 illegal immigrants who were charged or convicted of crimes inside the United States, according to the White House.
More than 1,800 of those were homicides and another 48,000 were assaults. ICE made 4,818 gang-related arrests.
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