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DeighAnn

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Sweet! Animals respond so wonderfully to care and attention... I have seen some heartbreaking cases on the tube of abused and neglected/abandoned animals, but given time and love they often overcome great odds to survive and thrive :D My daughter's cat is quite the hunter also! Loves to escape the house and catch rats to bring in as presents (and/or eat) LOL. Before he was allowed into the house at large, he was kept confined in the garage where he had been accidentally trapped (he used to sneak in to eat one of the other cat's food ;))... he would fetch the toy mouse every single time you threw or hid it somewhere and drop it at your feet so you could toss it again for him. My current cat is a rescue :)



^ ^ Luna :)
What a beauty. Excellent markings. I really miss my Cami. She actually stayed quite "feral" looking, but beautiful to me.
 

DeighAnn

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Where’s satan coming from?
The war in heaven when Michael kicks him out. When there is silence in heaven for 1/2 hour. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth.
 

UnoiAmarah

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Tree a fable? huh that’s interesting so God kicked Adam and Eve out of the garden on a fable?

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man;
Gen 3:22-24

So where do you see God kicked out Eve?
 

DeighAnn

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This is the verse I read in gen 2

19And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and He brought them to the man to see what he would name each one. And whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
I'll have to go back and check. Pretty sure, or I was. Not so much now.
 
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The war in heaven when Michael kicks him out. When there is silence in heaven for 1/2 hour. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth.
Hmm interesting so is satan in heaven already? or if not how does he get there?
 
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22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man;
Gen 3:22-24

So where do you see God kicked out Eve?
From here,

Gen 3:23
23 So the Eternal God banished Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden and exiled humanity from paradise, sentencing humans to laborious lives working the very ground man came from.

What you referenced is man in general both man and woman alike make up mankind
 

DeighAnn

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Hmm interesting so is satan in heaven already? or if not how does he get there?
Accusing day and night. Ever since Jesus said "Get thee behind me". really no choice now.

How did he get there? God doesn't tell us.
 
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Accusing day and night. Ever since Jesus said "Get thee behind me". really no choice now.

How did he get there? God doesn't tell us.
Accusing day and night?
 
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might be and another could be fear
not so much to busy, as they have built there foundations on life with money, aspiration and materialism . This then has to be protected, by working more hours, two jobs, and having children, with both parents working. This then makes them totally distracted from the truth, not that they would want to hear it anyway.
 

DeighAnn

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Accusing day and night?
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
 
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not so much to busy, as they have built there foundations on life with money, aspiration and materialism . This then has to be protected, by working more hours, two jobs, and having children, with both parents working. This then makes them totally distracted from the truth, not that they would want to hear it anyway.
I see I get what you mean, yea those things can distract even the best of Christians some times. The world is demanding unless a person grows every food they need to eat and build their own shelter and that would have to be owned land or allowed by someone or it takes money to live it seems.
 
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Every night for three weeks I sat in a parking lot, trying to catch a kitten.
I use to get the kittens in the trap in less then 10 minutes. I put a mouse on the end of the fishing rod. They could not resist coming out of their hiding place to chase that mouse. They chased it right into the trap. I tried getting a movie of that on the phone camera, but it never came out very good.
 

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It wasn't a willful disobedience, it was a seduced into sin by the by that old serpent, the dragon. The same one coming again.
Yet this is not a problem in Heaven where they always do the will of God and would not even think of doing anything they should not be doing. Why is it so easy to follow the rules there and so difficult here?
 

Magenta

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Yet this is not a problem in Heaven where they always do the will of God and would not even think of doing anything they should not be doing. Why is it so easy to follow the rules there and so difficult here?
Where were Satan and one third of the angels when they rebelled against God?

Jesus said He saw Satan fall from heaven... (Luke 10:18)
 

UnoiAmarah

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From here,

Gen 3:23
23 So the Eternal God banished Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden and exiled humanity from paradise, sentencing humans to laborious lives working the very ground man came from.
What you referenced is the copyrighted opinion of the authors of the Voice.

The Voice (VOICE)
The Voice Bible Copyright © 2012 Thomas Nelson, Inc. The Voice™ translation © 2012 Ecclesia Bible Society All rights reserved.

What you referenced is man in general both man and woman alike make up mankind
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, "
Matt 19:4

Or have you read, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father of lights do:

Since Elohim created the heaven and the earth in the beginning, some might say that the Gods which formed the expanse of space and the body of matter which had never existed before they were formed by the two Spirits of the eternal Light could be same thing considering it is written in John 3:12 that Jesus said, If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation? Num 16:22
Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, Num 27:16

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Rom 5:19-20
 

Nehemiah6

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Weren't there beasts of the field (wild animals) for hunting and stuff, and later, didn't God bring domestic animals into the garden for Adam to name and use in farming and for food?
When God created the Garden of Eden He had already made every creature a herbivore. At the same time every desirable fruit, vegetable, and herb was within that garden primarily for mankind.

And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: (Gen 2:15,16) You could call it a preserve for humans (where God would fellowship with man) in the middle of the rest of creation. Therefore we hear of only Adam and Eve being driven out later.

Since all the animals were fully provisioned for outside, and there was no need for farming (which came after the curse), there were no animals within Eden (and they all lived harmoniously since there were no carnivores either).
 

Nehemiah6

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Where were Satan and one third of the angels when they rebelled against God? Jesus said He saw Satan fall from heaven... (Luke 10:18)
Since there are three heavens, the evil angels were cast out of the third heaven (God's Heaven) into the first heaven (the atmospheric heaven). Thus Satan is called "the prince of the power of the air).
 
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What you referenced is the copyrighted opinion of the authors of the Voice.

The Voice (VOICE)
The Voice Bible Copyright © 2012 Thomas Nelson, Inc. The Voice™ translation © 2012 Ecclesia Bible Society All rights reserved.



"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, "
Matt 19:4

Or have you read, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father of lights do:

Since Elohim created the heaven and the earth in the beginning, some might say that the Gods which formed the expanse of space and the body of matter which had never existed before they were formed by the two Spirits of the eternal Light could be same thing considering it is written in John 3:12 that Jesus said, If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation? Num 16:22
Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, Num 27:16

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Rom 5:19-20
And ok yes I did,

So you think God drove Adam out of the garden but not Eve and left her in the garden with clothes of skin, and either her or he was sneaking in or out to have kids.

Gen 3
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
 
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22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man;
Gen 3:22-24

So where do you see God kicked out Eve?
Here’s another reasoning in that both where driven out for they both eat from the tree of knowledge. I don't think God drove out Adam only to leave Eve in the garden to munch down on the tree of life.