Not By Works

[EleventhHour]

I didn’t leave my wife. That was an example.


I wanted to see if people would get defensive about it, because I thought I DISCERNED something in your posts. And I was right

Well you could have just come out and ask me.

And what did you Discern then?

 

[Discern]

I didn’t leave my wife. That was an example.


I wanted to see if people would get defensive about it, because I thought I DISCERNED something in your posts. And I was right

The experiment is concluded.

 

[Discern]

Did David leave her and go back to his wife. Or continue to sleep with her (as in your hypothetical?

Deuteronomy 24:1-4

Didn’t Milcah remarry?

 

[EleventhHour]

The experiment is concluded.

Wow ...do you not see how manipulative that is.
Not a fan of your strategy at all.

 

[Discern]

Wow ...do you not see how manipulative that is.
Not a fan of your strategy at all.

Jesus often used leading questions. So did Paul and James and others

But At some point they stop. And I will leave off the subject

 

[EleventhHour]

I was hoping you would see what I see. Jesus often used leading questions. So did Paul and James and others

Yes He held all Truth ....you do not.
And neither are we the apostles as @dcontroversal already stated.

Do you feel some sense of victory now....you really remind me a few former members.
Sad.

 

[Discern]

Did David leave her and go back to his wife. Or continue to sleep with her (as in your hypothetical?

Did you get my point about The second Samuel passage?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Deuteronomy 24:1-4

Didn’t Milcah remarry?

So it’s ok for them not for the man in your example
sorry man your excusing sin

adultry is adultry period

 

[EleventhHour]

Romans 1 says that those who have never heard the gospel are without excuse, and that all have sinned and are without excuse

Did I state anything contrary to this.. i did not
Try again

 

[Discern]

Yes He held all Truth ....you do not.
And neither are we the apostles as @dcontroversal already stated.

Do you feel some sense of victory now....you really remind me a few former members.
Sad.

No, there was no victory for anyone. And I never brought new revelation.

1. There are professed believers who practice sin

2. There are some who profess they’re saved and are not

3. Those who are saved are eternally secure.

But the fact the question raised such controversy is speaks a lot.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Who said a lifestyle of sin was all manner of sin? How many sins were keeping the rich young ruler out of the kingdom?

I am done
when your ready to discuss let me know

By the way. You just condemned me and many others as not saved

Shame on you

 

[Discern]

So it’s ok for them not for the man in your example
sorry man your excusing sin

adultry is adultry period

Did you read the passage in 2Samuel I gave you? Do you see anything eye opening there?

 

[Discern]

I am done
when your ready to discuss let me know

By the way. You just condemned me and many others as not saved

Shame on you

No, I believe you and eleventh and Dcontroversal etc are saved. I never accused you of not being saved. Can’t be positive, but I would never say you’re not saved

 

[Grandpa]

If someone on CC is banned, come back as someone else, asked if they were previously banned but deny it, are they living immorally?

I don't think it is in the 10 commandments.

But I will check to make sure...

 

[Discern]

I am done
when your ready to discuss let me know

By the way. You just condemned me and many others as not saved

Shame on you

I would not say the post about the rich young ruler applies to you, because i don’t suspect any besetting sin is keeping you out of the Kingdom. 😀

 

[EleventhHour]

No, there was no victory for anyone. And I never brought new revelation.

1. There are professed believers who practice sin

2. There are some who profess they’re saved and are not

3. Those who are saved are eternally secure.

But the fact the question raised such controversy is speaks a lot.

Yes and you are to expose us correct because you dogma of perseverance of the saint states a believer has no choice in the matter of sanctification.

And I am wise to your "professed believer" terminology.

A believer does not practice sin because Jesus within us does not practice sin...it is really a shame Mr Calvin made this error because his false understanding now permeates Churchianity....nuff said.

I am not being made righteous...only Jesus is righteous ...l walk in Him I exemplify Him...I walk in the flesh I exemplify the flesh...is this such a difficult truth concept?

The more we walk in the Spirit the less power/control of the flesh...again simple.

But no....you have to make sin the big issue rather being honest with scripture and agreeing with scripture that the believer who is practicing sin has a faith and grace issue.

I am done with you sir for now because life calls but I an intuitive person and you keep adding credence to my suspicions of who you are.

 

[EleventhHour]

If someone on CC is banned, come back as someone else, asked if they were previously banned but deny it, are they living immorally?

Interesting response eh...does not help his case.

 

[EleventhHour]

I would not say the post about the rich young ruler applies to you, because i don’t suspect any besetting sin is keeping you out of the Kingdom. 😀

Wow this says a lot too ..

 

[VCO]

I don’t know why there is myself. It was a basic, simple question. It’s only controversial if you are insecure about your answer, imo

Here is where most Christians, forget what was taught about Controversy, which can be a sugar coated argument.


Titus 3:9 (NIV)
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels
about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

 

[OneOfHis]

I’m not saying a person who lives such a lifestyle could not give their life to Christ. I’m not implying that’s what you’re saying either. Bottom line, if such a person gave their life to Christ at one time, God’s gift of grace is irrevocable.

well said bro