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Aerials1978

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Jerzy said:
The evidence that a fallen angel satan was influencing him, please.
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Why not? Was not Peter also human? Didn’t Satan try and temp Jesus? Didn’t Satan enter Judas? Why do you dismiss that so quickly?
 
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Jerzy said:
To make it absolutely clear, God has never said that there exists a fallen angel satan, the devil or demons.

By the way, do you know what Jn 10:10 speaks about????
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Let’s focus on one thing at a time. We are talking about God and Him telling the Israelites of demonic spirits. How would you explain 1 Samuel 16:14 with regards to King Saul and the evil spirit that came unpon him?
 
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Jerzy said:
To make it absolutely clear, God has never said that there exists a fallen angel satan, the devil or demons.

So what/whom Jesus cast, you ask.

Well, if God didn't tell people about existence of a fallen supernarural powers but they have picked-up the pagan beliefs (for whatever reason) then people keep fight with their idol/s.

It sounds silly, doesn't it?

By the way, do you know what Jn 10:10 speaks about????
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Aerials1978 said:
One would have to assume that Satan was influencing Peter or Jesus’s wouldn’t have called him by that name. Through out the Gospels, we never see Jesus refer to another individual by that name.
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It would seem he was rebuking the spirit of lies. . The lord rebuke you.. While warning Peter not to follow after the law of the fathers.
 
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Aerials1978 said:
Let’s focus on one thing at a time. We are talking about God and Him telling the Israelites of demonic spirits. How would you explain 1 Samuel 16:14 with regards to King Saul and the evil spirit that came unpon him?
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Please read about God dispatching "bad" spirits to king Saul or Josabel. Also consider what King David prays God considering removing of his Holy Spirit.

Consider De 13:1-4 for a start.
 
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Hold on. If your premise is there is no fallen angels, why did God speak to Satan with regards to Job?
 
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I would say John10:10


The thief as the father of lies comes not, but for to steal, the glory of God and to kill, and to destroy humans : Jesus said I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 
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garee said:
It would seem he was rebuking the spirit of lies. . The lord rebuke you.. While warning Peter not to follow after the law of the fathers.
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That could be. But why did he call him Satan specifically? Jesus never said that to anyone else.
 
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garee said:
I would say John10:10


The thief as the father of lies comes not, but for to steal, the glory of God and to kill, and to destroy humans : Jesus said I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
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So whom is Jesus talking about?
 
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Jerzy said:
Please read about God dispatching "bad" spirits to king Saul or Josabel. Also consider what King David prays God considering removing of his Holy Spirit.

Consider De 13:1-4 for a start.
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Again, you’re not giving a direct answer. Instead you deflect and jump to another topic.
 
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Jerzy said:
Please read the Bible. It states that the evil spirit came from God.
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I have read front to back many times. Can’t God use evil for good purposes? How does your response solidify your position there are no fallen angels/demons. I’m confused?
 
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garee said:
It would seem he was rebuking the spirit of lies. . The lord rebuke you.. While warning Peter not to follow after the law of the fathers.
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And who claimed that Jesus was an imposter?

The content is different. Peter was concerned that Jesus said he was to die.
 
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Aerials1978 said:
Again, you’re not giving a direct answer. Instead you deflect and jump to another topic.
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Should I look up the verse where it says that the evil spirit came upon king Soul from God or you have some time to look it up?
 
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