Verses Not Found In The Scripture

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Kim82

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1. "God helps those who help themselves.”

In the Bible, the help always comes from one place, which the Psalmist lays out succinctly in Psalm 121:2, "My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.” When the Israelites stared down the crashing waves of the Red Sea and the crushing horses of Pharaoh’s army, God didn’t have the people build boats. He did the helping.

2. "This, too, shall pass.”

Whenever something bad happens, this “verse” pops up. It certainly sounds biblical, and some have even quoted it on TV as being from God’s Word. But it’s not, and it’s not even necessarily true. Sure, we’ll usually move beyond the debilitating pain of loss or find another job or heal from an accident. But not every pain will pass away while we’re here on earth and in this body.

3. “Yea, verily, God wants you to be happy.”

This popular verse floats to the top every so often and gets thrown around on talk shows and magazines. We like to think that our happiness is God’s highest goal because that fits our consumer-focused, instant-access, you-deserve-it world. It’s a verse that allows people to skirt other biblical mandates because, as is often claimed, happiness trumps everything else.

4. “If you work hard enough, you’ll be successful.”

Is hard work good? Yes. In fact, we’re told over and over in Proverbs that we’re supposed to work hard (12:11, 13:4, 14:23, etc.). Jesus kept a tireless pace during His life on earth, and you’ll never hear Paul condemn someone who works hard (in fact, he condemns those who don’t in 2 Thessalonians 3:10).
But the popular idea that hard work necessarily equals abundant earthly blessings has no basis in Scripture. In fact, for all His hard work, Jesus sometimes had nowhere to even sleep at night (Luke 9:58). Paul, the tireless tentmaker, spent much of his time running from mobs, swimming from shipwrecks, and singing in jail.

5. “Just follow your heart and believe, and you can do anything.”

Sometimes, Disney movies seem to invade Scripture. Perhaps because we humans love Cinderella stories (unjust rags to magical riches), the notion of us being "anything we want to be if we just believe” has become weaved into the fabric of how we view the Bible. David the shepherd boy became a king, right?

But we aren’t meant to do just anything. We’re meant to fulfill the purpose God has for our lives. For example, David was created to be king. Long before he was born, in fact, Jacob/Israel had prophesied that a ruler would spring from the line of Judah (Genesis 49:10). David didn’t "follow his heart" to the throne of Israel. He followed His God along the path laid out for him (Psalm 119:35).
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Kim82

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1. “God won’t give you more than you can handle.”

When some difficulty arises in the life a believer (or anyone else), this supposed verse gets tossed out there like a Scripture bomb. Sure, it sounds compelling, and it does remind us of God’s care and concern for each of us. After all, He knows exactly the number of follicles growing out of your cranium:
“Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.” (Luke 12:7)

But it’s because God loves us and knows us that He must give us more than we can handle. After all, we humans have a tendency to think that we can do everything on our own. Our pride has a way of dragging us down

2. “If God brings you to it, He will lead you through it.”

This so-called verse does conjure up images of the Israelites passing through the Red Sea or Joshua leading God’s people through the Jordan River. We can see David’s Shepherd guiding us through that Valley of the Shadow of Death. Plus, it rhymes.
However, this isn’t necessarily what the Bible teaches.
It is true that God is with us always, no matter what we face, just as Jesus said: “And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:20b
But oftentimes we use this supposed verse to mean that God will always remove us from a bad situation. Tough job? God will get you out the door. Struggling marriage? God will fix it before you know it. Made a dumb decision? God will take care of it.

Could He get you out of that tough spot? Sure. Will He? That’s up to Him and His perfect will.

3. “If God closes one door, He’ll open another (or a giant window).”

You could say this folksy verse is closely associated with number 2 above. It has the same potential for stock image inspiration in your social media feed, and it does have some truth to it. The Bible does promise that God will keep us headed in the right direction:
I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will counsel you and watch over you. (Psalm 32:8)

But the “way you should go” doesn’t necessarily mean God will make an escape hatch for us when times get tough or when we don’t seem to be making progress. In fact, God often does some of His best work in our waiting, and He teaches us to trust Him more:
“Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.” (Psalm 37:7)
If God closes a door, we need to stop and consider what’s going on in our life. Perhaps we’re trying to force our way into something that He wants to protect us from. Looking for another door or window may make us miss the lesson because we’re sure we should be doing something—anything. We keep trying to go where God wants to protect us from.

If God stops you, don’t immediately look for another way through. First, stop and ask Him if that’s truly what He wants you to do. Otherwise, you could be like Peter who tried to keep Jesus from being arrested when arrest was exactly what God had planned (John 18:10).

4. “ ‘Your wish is my command,’ says the Lord.”

Okay, so you may never have heard this supposed verse put so bluntly before. But the sentiment has certainly been shared all over the Internet. If you keep asking, if you believe enough, if you have faith enough, then God will give you whatever you want.

We have to be careful here, of course, because God does promise many times to hear the prayers of those who call on Him (2 Chronicles 7:14; Micah 7:7; 1 John 5:14). We also know that God answers those prayers (Psalm 120:1; Matthew 7:7; etc.). We’re even told this: “Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.” (Psalm 37:4)

But there’s much more here than God being some sort of genie in the sky. Whenever God promises to hear our cries or to answer our prayers, there’s always an important stipulation—whether explicit or not. Take Psalm 37:4 as an example. God will give us the desires of our heart… when we delight in Him. And that’s the point: He is what we truly need—not fame, fortune, or anything else this world can offer. When we seek Him first and His righteousness, we have exactly what we truly need.

So, does God answer our prayers? Absolutely. Should we bring our needs to Him? Every single one. Should we expect Him to answer our prayers exactly as we want? No—not unless we’re mainly praying and desiring for His will to be done. He knows way better what we need than we do.

5. “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life!”

Years ago, this phrase became a staple of evangelism, and since then, it’s taken on an aura of something biblical. The problem, though, is that it suggests an idea that’s not biblical at all. How? Let’s break it down.

We can be sure that God loves us, the first part of this phrase. After all, the most famous verse in the Bible assures us of God’s love (John 3:16), and He sent His Son to prove that love (Romans 5:8). So, there’s nothing amiss there. But the trouble starts when we add to that the idea that once we’re saved, everything will suddenly be awesome. Despite what it may have meant at one time, that “wonderful plan for your life” part sounds an awful lot like “He’ll fix all your problems.” The truth is that following Jesus may actually cause problems for the believer.

Jeremiah obeyed God’s call, and he ended up at the bottom of a cistern. David trusted God, and he spent years running for his life and dodging spears. Paul surrendered to Christ, and he forfeited prestige for prison. And this apostle wasn’t one to hide what following Christ means: “So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God” (2 Timothy 1:8)

God loves us and has a wonderful future in store for those who love Him. But in the present age? Not necessarily.
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1. "God helps those who help themselves.”

In the Bible, the help always comes from one place, which the Psalmist lays out succinctly in Psalm 121:2, "My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.” When the Israelites stared down the crashing waves of the Red Sea and the crushing horses of Pharaoh’s army, God didn’t have the people build boats. He did the helping.

2. "This, too, shall pass.”

Whenever something bad happens, this “verse” pops up. It certainly sounds biblical, and some have even quoted it on TV as being from God’s Word. But it’s not, and it’s not even necessarily true. Sure, we’ll usually move beyond the debilitating pain of loss or find another job or heal from an accident. But not every pain will pass away while we’re here on earth and in this body.

3. “Yea, verily, God wants you to be happy.”

This popular verse floats to the top every so often and gets thrown around on talk shows and magazines. We like to think that our happiness is God’s highest goal because that fits our consumer-focused, instant-access, you-deserve-it world. It’s a verse that allows people to skirt other biblical mandates because, as is often claimed, happiness trumps everything else.

4. “If you work hard enough, you’ll be successful.”

Is hard work good? Yes. In fact, we’re told over and over in Proverbs that we’re supposed to work hard (12:11, 13:4, 14:23, etc.). Jesus kept a tireless pace during His life on earth, and you’ll never hear Paul condemn someone who works hard (in fact, he condemns those who don’t in 2 Thessalonians 3:10).
But the popular idea that hard work necessarily equals abundant earthly blessings has no basis in Scripture. In fact, for all His hard work, Jesus sometimes had nowhere to even sleep at night (Luke 9:58). Paul, the tireless tentmaker, spent much of his time running from mobs, swimming from shipwrecks, and singing in jail.

5. “Just follow your heart and believe, and you can do anything.”

Sometimes, Disney movies seem to invade Scripture. Perhaps because we humans love Cinderella stories (unjust rags to magical riches), the notion of us being "anything we want to be if we just believe” has become weaved into the fabric of how we view the Bible. David the shepherd boy became a king, right?

But we aren’t meant to do just anything. We’re meant to fulfill the purpose God has for our lives. For example, David was created to be king. Long before he was born, in fact, Jacob/Israel had prophesied that a ruler would spring from the line of Judah (Genesis 49:10). David didn’t "follow his heart" to the throne of Israel. He followed His God along the path laid out for him (Psalm 119:35).
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you can not fellow your hearts JEREMIAH 17:9 THE HEART is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked; who can know it. We can not fellow what we fill or think ,or our hearts ,We haft to fellow the word of GOD .If we try to fellow what we think , Satan will have us all mist up , and overcome , We haft to over come Satan by standing on the WORD of GOD .
GOD bless as HE sees fit .
 

John146

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Matthew 18:11 and many others aren’t found in the new versions.😁
 

John146

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God works in mysterious ways.

Cleanliness is next to godliness.
 
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1. “God won’t give you more than you can handle.”

When some difficulty arises in the life a believer (or anyone else), this supposed verse gets tossed out there like a Scripture bomb. Sure, it sounds compelling, and it does remind us of God’s care and concern for each of us. After all, He knows exactly the number of follicles growing out of your cranium:
“Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.” (Luke 12:7)

But it’s because God loves us and knows us that He must give us more than we can handle. After all, we humans have a tendency to think that we can do everything on our own. Our pride has a way of dragging us down

I believe when the statement is made that "God won’t give you more than you can handle", the reference is to 1 Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

The words "temptation" and "tempted" mean either to tempt or to test, depending upon the context.

And whether we face a test or we face temptation, God always provides what we need in order to endure the temptation or be victorious in the test. We just need to keep our focus on God and look for the way He provides for us to be overcome whatever it is we face.

There have been many times in my life where my outlook has been "God, how are You going to help me get through this ? ... because I sure need Your help". And God has always been there with me in times of temptations, trials, afflictions, suffering ... as well as in times of well-being, joy, peace, etc. etc.



 
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Kim82

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I believe when the statement is made that "God won’t give you more than you can handle", the reference is to 1 Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

The words "temptation" and "tempted" mean either to tempt or to test, depending upon the context.

And whether we face a test or we face temptation, God always provides what we need in order to endure the temptation or be victorious in the test. We just need to keep our focus on God and look for the way He provides for us to be overcome whatever it is we face.

There have been many times in my life where my outlook has been "God, how are You going to help me get through this ? ... because I sure need Your help". And God has always been there with me in times of temptations, trials, afflictions, suffering ... as well as in times of well-being, joy, peace, etc. etc.
The phrase is not found in the scripture. Its misleading and not accurate.

2Corinthians 1:8We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life. 9Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead.
 
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Kim82

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This is the foundation of all the various religions and denominations:
This is not BIBLE , BUT I still like it , & believe it is a GODLY saying.
Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.

Romans 1: 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
 
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The phrase is not found in the scripture.
If/when someone uses the phrase, I usually point to 1 Cor 10:13. It is so good to know that God provides a way to escape. This is a promise we can hold in our hearts and stand firm in faith when we are faced with the trials and temptations of this life.



2Corinthians 1:8We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life. 9Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead.
The point of 2 Cor 1 is that every single one of us will suffer tribulation in this life. Maybe not to the extent that Paul and company did where they despaired even of life. However, the God of all comforts continues to comfort us in all our tribulations so that we are able to comfort others.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.


 
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If/when someone uses the phrase, I usually point to 1 Cor 10:13. It is so good to know that God provides a way to escape. This is a promise we can hold in our hearts and stand firm in faith when we are faced with the trials and temptations of this life.



The point of 2 Cor 1 is that every single one of us will suffer tribulation in this life. Maybe not to the extent that Paul and company did where they despaired even of life. However, the God of all comforts continues to comfort us in all our tribulations so that we are able to comfort others.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
The scripture refers to the temptation of sin.

But people broaden it to mean just about anything. God say we must not add to His words.
 

John146

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This is the foundation of all the various religions and denominations:


Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.

Romans 1: 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
What do you make of Matthew 18:11?
 
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The Christian who has an incurable illness which leads to death. Will we also quote 1Corinthians 1O:13 to them?
 

Nehemiah6

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1. "God helps those who help themselves.”
These are just secular aphorisms. And we need to keep in mind that God does not help those who simply sit on their hands either.
 
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Kim82

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What do you make of Matthew 18:11?
"The son of man is come to save that which was lost." Its in my KJV Bible.

I didn't know this was left out of some other bible versions until I googled it just now and found the following statement:

Textual criticism has determined that verse 11 should not exist in Matthew 18 since it does not appear in the oldest and best manuscripts. https://googleweblight.com/i?u=http...y-is-verse-11-missing-in-matthew-18/&hl=en-JM

There are also books mentioned in the Bible that are not apart of the books in the KJV for eg Book of Jashar mentioned in 2samuel 1:18.

Well I leave this one for you Bible scholars to get to the bottom of.
 
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The scripture refers to the temptation of sin.

But people broaden it to mean just about anything. God say we must not add to His words.
1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation [Greek peirasmos] taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted [Greek peirazó] above that ye are able; but will with the temptation [Greek peirasmos] also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

In 1 Cor 10:13, the word "temptation" (used twice) is translated from the Greek word peirasmos.

peirasmós (from 3985 /peirázō) – temptation or test – both senses can apply simultaneously (depending on the context). The positive sense ("test") and negative sense ("temptation") are functions of the context (not merely the words themselves).
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The word "tempted" is translated from the Greek word peirazó.

peirázō (from 3984 /peíra, "test, trial") – "originally to test, to try which was its usual meaning in the ancient Greek and in the LXX" (WP, 1, 30). "The word means either test or tempt" (WP, 1, 348). Context alone determines which sense is intended, or if both apply simultaneously.
3985 (peirazō) means "tempt" ("negative sense") in: Mt 16:1, 19:3, 22:18,35; Mk 8:11, 10:2, 12:15; Lk 11:16, 20:33; Jn 8:6; Js 1:13,14.
3985 (peirazō) however is used of positive tests in: Mt 4:11; Lk 22:28; 1 Cor 10:13; Js 1:12.
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The Christian who has an incurable illness which leads to death. Will we also quote 1Corinthians 1O:13 to them?
Interestingly enough, this verse has been quoted to me by believers who were going through serious illness.

However, I usually do not quote this verse to people who are going through "an incurable illness which leads to death". I do know, though, that God is with us through thick and thin and He sustains us in our most trying times ... and sometimes our most trying times do not involve temptation to sin.

We need God every moment of our lives ... whether we are facing temptation to sin ... or a season of trial ... or times of joy and peace ...

But when we are going through trials, as we look to God, He brings that peace which passes all understanding to guard our hearts and minds so that we are able to remain steadfast and unmovable in faith.



 

Nehemiah6

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Textual criticism has determined that verse 11 should not exist in Matthew 18 since it does not appear in the oldest and best manuscripts.
If you will read that as "OLDEST AND WORST" you will have no problem in rejecting that nonsense. Stick with the KJV.
 
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1. "God helps those who help themselves.”

In the Bible, the help always comes from one place, which the Psalmist lays out succinctly in Psalm 121:2, "My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.” When the Israelites stared down the crashing waves of the Red Sea and the crushing horses of Pharaoh’s army, God didn’t have the people build boats. He did the helping.

2. "This, too, shall pass.”

Whenever something bad happens, this “verse” pops up. It certainly sounds biblical, and some have even quoted it on TV as being from God’s Word. But it’s not, and it’s not even necessarily true. Sure, we’ll usually move beyond the debilitating pain of loss or find another job or heal from an accident. But not every pain will pass away while we’re here on earth and in this body.

3. “Yea, verily, God wants you to be happy.”

This popular verse floats to the top every so often and gets thrown around on talk shows and magazines. We like to think that our happiness is God’s highest goal because that fits our consumer-focused, instant-access, you-deserve-it world. It’s a verse that allows people to skirt other biblical mandates because, as is often claimed, happiness trumps everything else.

4. “If you work hard enough, you’ll be successful.”

Is hard work good? Yes. In fact, we’re told over and over in Proverbs that we’re supposed to work hard (12:11, 13:4, 14:23, etc.). Jesus kept a tireless pace during His life on earth, and you’ll never hear Paul condemn someone who works hard (in fact, he condemns those who don’t in 2 Thessalonians 3:10).
But the popular idea that hard work necessarily equals abundant earthly blessings has no basis in Scripture. In fact, for all His hard work, Jesus sometimes had nowhere to even sleep at night (Luke 9:58). Paul, the tireless tentmaker, spent much of his time running from mobs, swimming from shipwrecks, and singing in jail.

5. “Just follow your heart and believe, and you can do anything.”

Sometimes, Disney movies seem to invade Scripture. Perhaps because we humans love Cinderella stories (unjust rags to magical riches), the notion of us being "anything we want to be if we just believe” has become weaved into the fabric of how we view the Bible. David the shepherd boy became a king, right?

But we aren’t meant to do just anything. We’re meant to fulfill the purpose God has for our lives. For example, David was created to be king. Long before he was born, in fact, Jacob/Israel had prophesied that a ruler would spring from the line of Judah (Genesis 49:10). David didn’t "follow his heart" to the throne of Israel. He followed His God along the path laid out for him (Psalm 119:35).
https://googleweblight.com/i?u=http...ht-were-in-the-bible-but-aren-t.html&hl=en-JM
No scripture for "Revived Roman Empire". "Russia marching on Israel". "Pre-Trib Rapture".....