Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

[Dave-L]

In other words,

You want to talk to people who agree with you. Not to those who disagree and may be able to show you some things.

Your one sided. Closed minded. whcih makes us wonder, why are you in a bible discussion forum when you d not want to discuss the Bible. But push your views on what YOU THINK the Bible says?

Not at all. I rather post on a take it or leave it basis. Or answer questions about the post. But arguing is of the flesh.

 

[Dave-L]

Romans 11 says otherwise

As do most of the OT

God has a nation of saved/unsaved people he calls his own

and he has a family f believers who consists of all nations he calls his own.

you can’t see this, because you do not wish to..

sorry, God keeps his promises..

The promises are for Christ only, and those who believe in him.
“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Not at all. I rather post on a take it or leave it basis. Or answer questions about the post. But arguing is of the flesh.

But you never answer questions or speak to passages people bring you

so in essence, it is your way or the highway

sorry man, You have brought this all on yourself.

 

[Dave-L]

But you never answer questions or speak to passages people bring you

so in essence, it is your way or the highway

sorry man, You have brought this all on yourself.

You can place me on ignore and maybe be happier.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The promises are for Christ only, and those who believe in him.
“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

God promised who the land of Canaan? Nd unconditional promise he said would last forever?

sorry dude, Your not going to get away it’s rejecting Gods promise to a particular nation.

I am promised heaven, and even many who were promised Canaan, stated they looked towards the real treasure, which was heaven.

but that does not discount god promised them the land of Canaan. As an everlasting promise (Gen 12, 15 and 17)

 

[Dave-L]

God promised who the land of Canaan? Nd unconditional promise he said would last forever?

sorry dude, Your not going to get away it’s rejecting Gods promise to a particular nation.

I am promised heaven, and even many who were promised Canaan, stated they looked towards the real treasure, which was heaven.

but that does not discount god promised them the land of Canaan. As an everlasting promise (Gen 12, 15 and 17)

The earth is going to end in flames. How can Canaan be forever?

 

[John146]

This is not true. In the New Covenant Jesus is both Judah and Israel reunited. Matthew and Paul both identify him as Israel.

Whenever Christians out of the twelve tribes are referred to, they are clearly designated apart from the twelve tribes. Saved Jews are referred to as the remnant (Romans 9:27;11:15); the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16); believing Jews (Romans 1:16).

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You can place me on ignore and maybe be happier.

or you could actually start to answer questions and open a dialogue wth people who are attempting to discuss the word with you.

why woul you want to run from conversation?

I love discussing end times and prophecy . And discussing it with others shows me where I may be wrng( I would be a fool if I think I got it all figured out) and then talk to others who just empower my belief, because they, well lets face it, Do what you do.

 

[Dave-L]

Whenever Christians out of the twelve tribes are referred to, they are clearly designated apart from the twelve tribes. Saved Jews are referred to as the remnant (Romans 9:27;11:15); the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16); believing Jews (Romans 1:16).

Paul preached to the last generation of validly circumcised Jews. Matthew and Paul both affirm Jesus is Israel. And being from Judah, that unifies both groups in him.

 

[John146]

Are you inferring that some of the elect are not going to heaven?

Which elect?

God’s elect Jesus Christ?
God’s elect physical nation Israel?
God’s elect angels?
God’s elect witnesses the 144,000 male Jews?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The earth is going to end in flames. How can Canaan be forever?

The earth is still here

as long as it exists. The promise is still in effect.

forever has not ended.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Paul preached to the last generation of validly circumcised Jews. Matthew and Paul both affirm Jesus is Israel. And being from Judah, that unifies both groups in him.

This is a true fact, and amen

but that is not the topic of our discussion

 

[John146]

Paul preached to the last generation of validly circumcised Jews. Matthew and Paul both affirm Jesus is Israel. And being from Judah, that unifies both groups in him.

Of course no Scripture....

 

[Dave-L]

The earth is still here

as long as it exists. The promise is still in effect.

forever has not ended.

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” 2 Peter 3:10–13 (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave-L]

Of course no Scripture....

I have plenty. But I'm not here to argue.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The promises are for Christ only, and those who believe in him.
“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

Gen 15:
18 On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:

“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— 19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”

How long did God say these people would own this land?

Gen 17. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

This promise is for Christ only?


I mean really come on.. you ignore half the promise of abraham

 

[Dave-L]

This is a true fact, and amen

but that is not the topic of our discussion

If it applies to my OP. it is a topic of discussion.

 

[Dave-L]

Gen 15:
18 On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying:

“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates— 19 the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, 20 the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, 21 the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.”

How long did God say these people would own this land?

Gen 17. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

This promise is for Christ only?


I mean really come on.. you ignore half the promise of abraham

Jesus said ; “The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.” (Leviticus 25:23)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” 2 Peter 3:10–13 (KJV 1900)

This is yoru problem, You ar so focused on proving yourself right, you can not hear a word people say

I admitted this earth will pass away, I admitted at that time Canaan will no longer exist as it has since the flood.

yet you come at me trying to prov somethign I already admitted to. And IGNORED what I said about the land which is currently here

I take it you re calvinist?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If it applies to my OP. it is a topic of discussion.

You’re op is about repayment theology

That mean the discussion concerns what replacement theology means.

so yes. It is the topic of discussion.