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Pisteuo said:
Because he knew that if he tempted Adam he wouldn't have gotten Eve. So he tempted Eve because he knew if he got Eve, he would get Adam also.

This understanding is based on many facts coming from 65 years, and my 33 years of the highest level of teaching the Christian world has ever known.

An accumulation of evidence that shows God's ways, and Lucifer's ways also. Not really anything that can be explained in a post, you have to do the 100 years of leg work. And be having the true N born again experience by Grace through the surrendering of our lives to Him and live a life inspired by such surrender.
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I disagree with your assumption based on it having zero evidence when using the inspired scriptures as a source.
 
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dcontroversal said:
You got that right....

Pisteuo said:
There's no such thing as" believing" in Christ for salvation. I thought we established that.
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The word " believing" is a mistranslation!

Stopping your little feet and whining about it won't change that fact.

Strong's " pisteuo means NOT just to believe.". Not my words , the Strong's!
 
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OneOfHis said:
I disagree with your assumption based on it having zero evidence when using the inspired scriptures as a source.
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I've shown you my qualifications I have to make the statements I've been making, what are yours?
 
dcontroversal

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OneOfHis said:
If you were to ask me, based on the wording the serpent tempted Eve because she most likely heard from Adam to not eat from it.. Eve was created after Adam was warned.

Most likely at some point Adam added an additional rule to not even touch it, I would imagine the serpent first proved touching it was not dangerous then claimed it was good to eat.

Adam was not decieved when he ate. Eve was.
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gen 2
16And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

gen 3

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Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.


1 tim 2

"And Adam was not deceived"

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Thing is, you couldn't prove me wrong or right and your whole point is silly and worthless in regards to how we become Gods children and how He saves us.

Using a rabbit hole like this is weak.

How can you formulate theories from your own brain and reasoning while also acting as if scripture can't stand on it's own.
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Just want to add a few things to ponder....

a. Not everything is written
b. Neither had sinned yet and embellishing the word of God would have been a lie....I do not believe they embellished IMO
 
OneOfHis

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Pisteuo said:
The word " believing" is a mistranslation!

Stopping your little feet and whining about it won't change that fact.

Strong's " pisteuo means NOT just to believe.". Not my words , the Strong's!
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You have been proven wrong so many times. You sound silly.

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I've shown you my qualifications I have to make the statements I've been making, what are yours?
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You have only shown that despite your many claims you do not yet know the simplicity in Christ.😅
 
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dcontroversal said:
Just want to add a few things to ponder....

a. Not everything is written
b. Neither had sinned yet and embellishing the word of God would have been a lie....I do not believe they embellished IMO
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Good point. I was thinking more of an aspect of misunderstanding but you are right.
 
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OneOfHis said:
I disagree with your assumption based on it having zero evidence when using the inspired scriptures as a source.
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He assumes alot and embellishes even more......end of the day...Eve was easier to deceive than Adam.....it had nothing to do with the drivel he was selling about Adam being lower than Eve!
 
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dcontroversal said:
He assumes alot and embellishes even more......end of the day...Eve was easier to deceive than Adam.....it had nothing to do with the drivel he was selling about Adam being lower than Eve!
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Hard to reason with someone who thinks themselves as wise....literally said we would need to do 100 years of leg work to learn what he is saying....🤦‍♂️


It must be a joke.
 
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OneOfHis said:
You have been proven wrong so many times. You sound silly.

Everything I've posted has come out of the Greek or English dictionary. So your beef would be with the hundreds of Greek scholars . They'll probably want to know what qualities you to an opinion on their lives work also.


You have only shown that despite your many claims you do not yet know the simplicity in Christ.😅
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That's what I thought.
 
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dcontroversal said:
He assumes alot and embellishes even more......end of the day...Eve was easier to deceive than Adam.....it had nothing to do with the drivel he was selling about Adam being lower than Eve!
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Your a lesser species dcon, get over it!
 
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Pisteuo said:
Because he knew that if he tempted Adam he wouldn't have gotten Eve. So he tempted Eve because he knew if he got Eve, he would get Adam also.

This understanding is based on many facts coming from 65 years, and my 33 years of the highest level of teaching the Christian world has ever known.

An accumulation of evidence that shows God's ways, and Lucifer's ways also. Not really anything that can be explained in a post, you have to do the 100 years of leg work. And be having the true NT born again experience by Grace through the surrendering of our lives to Him and live a life inspired by such surrender.
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You forgot to mention the exclusive garments and secret handshake, and how many special badges you earned....
 
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OneOfHis said:
I'm glad you also thought you have been proven wrong. Now let's hope you learn somethin.
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That would be awesome!!!!!!?

That's why I do this! I put my understandings on the table to be tested by anyone in hopes I could have a better understanding of Christ.

But if you don't agree with the understanding I've presented, you must replace it with a better understanding. Name-calling, misrepresentation, the group muggings are nice, ya have to put down a better understanding!
we're just talking about what NT Faith is, and what it isn't.

Strong's " pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

Vines ," Pisteuo is a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

If you don't agree with their definitions, submitt better ones. And tell me why these two should not be acceptable.
 
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Pisteuo said:
That would be awesome!!!!!!?

That's why I do this! I put my understandings on the table to be tested by anyone in hopes I could have a better understanding of Christ.

But if you don't agree with the understanding I've presented, you must replace it with a better understanding. Name-calling, misrepresentation, the group muggings are nice, ya have to put down a better understanding!
we're just talking about what NT Faith is, and what it isn't.

Strong's " pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

Vines ," Pisteuo is a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

If you don't agree with their definitions, submitt better ones. And tell me why these two should not be acceptable.
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They've been providing the definitions all week long... To which you reply with a resounding "nuh uhhhhhhh!"and continue as if nothing was said.
 
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Pisteuo said:
That would be awesome!!!!!!?

That's why I do this! I put my understandings on the table to be tested by anyone in hopes I could have a better understanding of Christ.

But if you don't agree with the understanding I've presented, you must replace it with a better understanding. Name-calling, misrepresentation, the group muggings are nice, ya have to put down a better understanding!
we're just talking about what NT Faith is, and what it isn't.

Strong's " pisteuo means NOT just to believe."

Vines ," Pisteuo is a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

If you don't agree with their definitions, submitt better ones. And tell me why these two should not be acceptable.
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I posted definitions and scriptures multiple times. You point to your works as if they make you credible. I then belittle your works because truth is what matters.

Sorry for being dismissive but it is hard to take your claims seriously when they contain so little truth and silly rabbit hole questions and logical fallacies.
 
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dcontroversal said:
This post is as anti-Christian as they come and has been reported....you are not of God and your words right here prove it!
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WOW, that is as anti-Christian as you can get. I know the GOSPEL OF JOHN was the first Book I read after I was Born Again.

Then I went to 1 John, and Revelation. Yes, he is an Tare that our enemy has sown amongst the Wheat.
 
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