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KelbyofGod

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And by "challenges" I mean something that can actually kill them, not just some untruth meant to scare them.

I think among those professing to be God's children, it's the fear of what could actually kill them that scares them more than the possibility of it being a lie.
And I'm saying that so that those on this site can start to be honest with themselves and let God deal with their fears and (too often) the reality that they don't know God as much as they've been claiming.

Not sure how to close that thought so I'll just say (for now)...

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

PennEd

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As Christians, we may be missing the point here.

What an incredible opportunity to show love, grace, calm and peace. This will create openings to preach the Gospel like we have never had before in our lifetime.
We can, through the Holy Spirit, make eternal differences in peoples lives.
 
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I think it’s important to tell people not to horde the toilet paper.
 
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EleventhHour

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How about the opposite idea...that there may be a strong a political movement to suppress the truth of the situation to avoid panic.

I'm actually hesitant to share what the math seems to be saying, because I'm guessing that many people here aren't as ready to face challenges as what they claim to be.

But on the other hand, I think God wants to show that he is indeed God...even to as many of those (who currently fear) as he can reach.
That is possible too.

I agree, the fact that this virus is not so virulent is more of a problem than SARS... the statistics are not good... and it will take until June for this to peak.

I do not think the USA is in good shape to deal with this... they do not have enough test kits, and did not move quickly enough to suppress transmission by shutting things down.

I agree the projections are not good.

In Italy doctors are literally making decisions on who lives or dies.
 

Nehemiah6

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It will be everywhere very soon. There are already over 1,000 confirmed cases in the U.S.A. as well as many other countries..
If the media and government officials would simply QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT, that would be far better than anything else. All one sees now is 99% of news items are about this glorified flu, and the rest is about clowns trying to lead the USA into chaos.

As to the OP, God is with every believer and in every believer. Christians have nothing to fear. But we should be fully aware that a handful of men who control the news media and the Deep State have an evil agenda to create panic and fear and then subjugate people. And the puppet master behind those men is Satan.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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How about the opposite idea...that there may be a strong a political movement to suppress the truth of the situation to avoid panic.

I'm actually hesitant to share what the math seems to be saying, because I'm guessing that many people here aren't as ready to face challenges as what they claim to be.

But on the other hand, I think God wants to show that he is indeed God...even to as many of those (who currently fear) as he can reach.
People are panicked now. Bulk buying toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and meat. Public events closed. If you think there is panic suppression going on you ain't paying attention
 
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EleventhHour

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If the media and government officials would simply QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT, that would be far better than anything else. All one sees now is 99% of news items are about this glorified flu, and the rest is about clowns trying to lead the USA into chaos.

As to the OP, God is with every believer and in every believer. Christians have nothing to fear. But we should be fully aware that a handful of men who control the news media and the Deep State have an evil agenda to create panic and fear and then subjugate people. And the puppet master behind those men is Satan.
It isn't a glorified flu.... It is a novel flu virus.... the fact that it is not so deadly is exactly why it is a problem.


The Spanish Flu had a death rate of about 2% which is exactly why it was so deadly.
More virulent viruses die out ... less virulent viruses travel throughout large populations and kill more people.
It is indeed very serious... but panic does not solve anything.
We have no idea yet about where the numbers will go... but it will be bad.
And I find it very heartless what you have written, when our health care system is over run and people need ventilators and there are none people will die and you make light of the seriousness.

Not taking it seriously is not good.
 
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It isn't a glorified flu.... It is a novel flu virus.... the fact that it is not so deadly is exactly why it is a problem.


The Spanish Flu had a death rate of about 2% which is exactly why it was so deadly.
More virulent viruses die out ... less virulent viruses travel throughout large populations and kill more people.
It is indeed very serious... but panic does not solve anything.
We have no idea yet about where the numbers will go... but it will be bad.
And I find it very heartless what you have written, when our health care system is over run and people need ventilators and there are none people will die and you make light of the seriousness.

Not taking it seriously is not good.
Now there is a virus running wild and people are all of sudden concerned about human life. really why is human life serious because of a recent virus. many people die everyday of things isn’t that a serious concern too or is it just a virus that gets people’s attention about human life.
 
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EleventhHour

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It will be everywhere very soon. There are already over 1,000 confirmed cases in the U.S.A. as well as many other countries..
Agree, for every 1000 there are untold numbers that are carriers spreading it daily.

It is exponential growth at this point!
 
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EleventhHour

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Now there is a virus running wild and people are all of sudden concerned about human life. really why is human life serious because of a recent virus. many people die everyday of things isn’t that a serious concern too or is it just a virus that gets people’s attention about human life.
This is another upsetting comment... wow.

All human life is a concern and of value.
This goes without saying.

This situation has to be managed/controlled ... if is not managed by the government properly and swiftly people will die needlessly.
That is a fact.
 
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This is another upsetting comment... wow.

All human life is a concern and of value.
This goes without saying.

This situation has to be managed/controlled ... if is not managed by the government properly and swiftly people will die needlessly.
That is a fact.
O yea, how about the roughly 9.1 million people die each year from starvation, when was the last time that made the news?

No I’m not going to be concern with the current virus. get your head out of the sand and know reality as far as human life is concerned.

Where is the government management on that? there no reason why 9 million have to die each year from starvation.
 
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EleventhHour

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O yea, how about the roughly 9.1 million people die each year from starvation, when was the last time that made the news?

No I’m not going to be concern with the current virus. get your head out of the sand and know reality as far as human life is concerned.

Where is the government management on that? there no reason why 9 million have to die each year from starvation.
Okay, I am talking about apples and you are talking about oranges.
 
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My question is far are they going to take this.
My question is what would happen if they did not take this serious. People would quit flying on airplanes, quit going to sports events, quit going on carnival cruises if they were at an increased risk for getting sick. That could be what they are worried about.
 

Placid

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Hi,
We are all concerned about this new virus, but since we trust the Lord to guide us, we don't need to worry. If we truly are 'new creatures in Christ,' we leave our destiny to the Lord. --- However, I have sent the following to some people.

Coronavirus and norovirus are similar, and according to info online, norovirus, colds and flu can be killed by Oregano oil. --- It may be a deterrent to all viruses. --- Check out the uses and benefits of Oil of Oregano online, there is a lot that can be studied.

Quote: Carvacrol, the primary active component in oregano oil, effectively kills norovirus, a common cause of food-borne illness in hospitals, schools, and cruise ships. The compound works by breaking down the tough outer coat of the virus, which is the leading cause of vomiting and diarrhea around the world.
The oil of oregano is taken by mouth for intestinal parasites, allergies, sinus pain, arthritis, cold and flu, swine flu, earaches, and fatigue. (And one list included e-coli.)
Place 1–3 drops of this dilution under the tongue, hold it there for a few minutes, then flush with water. --- Swallowed: If you're taking the oregano oil orally, you can put a few drops of it into a cup (237 ml) of water, gargle and then swallow.

--- On my bottle of Oregano Oil, that comes with a dropper, it says ‘take five drops a day,’ which can be taken in a cup of water. It may not taste the best but it doesn’t linger. I have started to take it early in the morning in my usual cup of hot (boiled) water, before I take other medications.

The Scripture says that “In the last days perilous times will come,” --- There will be “Famines, earthquakes, pestilences,” --- and ‘pestilences’ can mean ‘infectious diseases.’ --- If we can use a home remedy to perhaps build up resistance, as well as wash our hands frequently, so that they are clean when we touch our face, or food, we will be doing what we can to help ourselves, and hopefully others. Blessings
 
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EleventhHour

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I think the reaction is part of the plan, the virus is just the catalyst.

My question is far are they going to take this. Events are being postponed or cancelled, revenue is being lost.

Is this just the start, are more businesses going to start closing and if so for how long? Economically, how much of this can we take.

It has gone farther than I thought it would. It seems like this is more than just the typical ‘fear mongering” of the past.
Economically this is a disaster in the making.

Many companies were already over leveraged... this will sink many ships, unemployment etc., ... the only solution will be huge government spending through bailouts and pumping more money into the system .. which could lead to further collapse down the road.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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If the media and government officials would simply QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT, that would be far better than anything else. All one sees now is 99% of news items are about this glorified flu, and the rest is about clowns trying to lead the USA into chaos.

As to the OP, God is with every believer and in every believer. Christians have nothing to fear. But we should be fully aware that a handful of men who control the news media and the Deep State have an evil agenda to create panic and fear and then subjugate people. And the puppet master behind those men is Satan.​
GOOD HEAVENS MAN! DO BE SENSIBLE!



This isn't just about the USA. There is a whole world out there.

Can't we pray for the Italians?
Can't we pray that -providing it's his will -God will expose the evil behind the scenes and thwart the purposes of the devil?
We can do that without believing everything in the news or panicking and buying all the toilet paper in sight.
We don't have to exist in extremes of all or nothing.
 
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Okay, I am talking about apples and you are talking about oranges.
You think 9 million dead from starvation is weighing apples to oranges your flat out deluded sorry but your words speak of your mentality on human life. if the virus reaches 9 million dead then it might be comparable to apples and oranges
 
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EleventhHour

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You think 9 million dead from starvation is weighing apples to oranges your flat out deluded sorry but your words speak of your mentality on human life. if the virus reaches 9 million dead then it might be comparable to apples and oranges
Your understanding of my words is way off...and I am not getting your point either .......I am conversing on this novel COVID 19 virus and its implications ...simple as that.

I am not talking about starvation in the world. Two different topics with entirely different causes, ramifications etc., etc.,

Done
 
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Your understanding of my words is way off...and I am not getting your point either .......I am conversing on this novel COVID 19 virus and its implications ...simple as that.

I am not talking about starvation in the world. Two different topics with entirely different causes, ramifications etc., etc.,

Done
I know your concern is about the virus, the here and now, starvation is far fron your mind etc etc etc..
 
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My question is what would happen if they did not take this serious. People would quit flying on airplanes, quit going to sports events, quit going on carnival cruises if they were at an increased risk for getting sick. That could be what they are worried about.
I think people would get sick and some people in poor health would die just like they do with every other flu that comes around.

Shutting down major money making businesses will have an effect on our economy. I don’t see anything different with this flu strain than any of the ones in past but what I do see is a lot of hype and extreme measures put in place over something that we been through many times in the past.