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Yeah, you sound like a reformed witch who found Christ. Casting curses and aspersions because you don't know the etymology of occult.
And you're wrong lady. I don't have to deal with you at all.
Never mind the Bible and its God given secrets so that not all would understand.
But you are right about one thing. You are certainly do not possess empathy. Be proud.

occult (adj.)

1530s, "secret, not divulged," from Middle French occulte and directly from Latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," past participle of occulere "cover over, conceal," from assimilated form of ob "over" (see ob-) + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE root *kel-(1) "to cover, conceal, save." Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.
I dont throw curses but I do recognise traits of people who want t make things look okay that God hates. Occult means hidden but its more than that and u try to make it look like itsan ok and normalI. U sugarcoat how evil it is.
Ya dont have to deal with me lol God is the one who bringd reveation.
I have empathy for people but I dont have empathy for false teaching and falsehood
 
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occult (adj.)

1530s, "secret, not divulged," from Middle French occulte and directly from Latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," past participle of occulere "cover over, conceal," from assimilated form of ob "over" (see ob-) + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE root *kel-(1) "to cover, conceal, save." Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.
In linguistics we know the difference between the definition, the meaning of a word, the etymology and the historical comparative understanding of a word and the evolution of word meaning.

The word is Latin in its origin therefore doubtful it has any connection to what scripture describes as hidden or concealed in the historical understanding of the word.......the word "occult" is connected to a specific body of knowledge that is considered hidden in the esoteric occult philosophies.

Any occult in the Bible is from occultist origin and is their own private false understanding of scripture, specifically theosophy,

The word is a medical term though.

Luke 8:17 (KJV)

17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

No occult for believers according to God!:)
 

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Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.
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I came a cross this thread while trying to get a better definition from various sources of the term Empath... I know little information but I seem to recall Empath and Highly Sensitive Person being very similar in some nature. My thoughts, although only worth 2 cents if that.. would be that relating your self to being an Empath would mean that you kind of take on this title that knows and senses things about people by perception of their choice of words, eye contact, tone of voice, body language, the intensity of their energy, and their auras. and I think 🤔 purpose wise, to ultimately spiritually heal this person, or give them advice to spiritually heal... but discernment, intuition, knowledge... those are blessings from Above for the Will of the King with the highest honor
A highly sensitive person can in fact be just as perceptive of all of these things, just unaware therefore maybe suffering. But regardless, healing can ultimately only come from God. As True followers and deciples, God sends us the Holy Spirit, and we each have our own special gifts to spread the message and reach people in Love.

“Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:17

Also, spiritual gifts are for His purpose. The Holy Spirit is to help us wayward humans.

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:22‬ ‭

🙏✌️❤️
 
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I am an empath and a follower of Jesus Christ. The burden is real. I can speak to some people telepathically, I can feel there pain, there emotions, I can feel anger in the community and dread. My soul seems to be very connected to God and I can hear his voice and energy. No, I am not demonic, I am an empath and its not something to be taken lightly. I have been had narcissists attach themselves to me, been bullied and ridiculed since primary school. It is real and I give the glory to God for such a gift, It can be used for good things.
 
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I am an empath and a follower of Jesus Christ. The burden is real. I can speak to some people telepathically, I can feel there pain, there emotions, I can feel anger in the community and dread. My soul seems to be very connected to God and I can hear his voice and energy. No, I am not demonic, I am an empath and its not something to be taken lightly. I have been had narcissists attach themselves to me, been bullied and ridiculed since primary school. It is real and I give the glory to God for such a gift, It can be used for good things.
Very brave to say that here.
Good for you.
I know someone who is empathic. People who aren't ready to show the truth and speak it tell her she's imagining things when she see's past their bs. She's great with animals too. Where people say, oh, don't go there they'll bite, she's just enjoying the day and sharing space with what others are afraid will bite them. And they don't enjoy the day because they're afraid of what shares in that same sunlight with them.

How did you find such an ancient thread?
 

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TemporaryCircumstances... I have never seen this as a gift. And its something I have never talked about other then with my wife or kids. Well I can't find anything in the word. The word "Empaths" for me is of the world.. its the 1st thing I think of. A word I have never used to describe this. Since I was young I have always wanted to feel hear see what He does..with people. His compassion oh.. ... I can not explain how much I have ALWAYS wanted that. Just something in me.. can't explain. To read or feel what others are going through.. everyone can to some extent can. But "this" for me its always on. I can't turn it off. Times I almost wanted to but... never went there.

So...for me anything that points to ME and not Him.. well says it all. Not of God. This is why I NEVER other then now.. and even then I have not even touch all of this. For me to talk about it.. points to ME. I know its of HIM. Anyway.. I don't see it as a gift since I have always desired this. That LOVE that compassion... it just screams so to speak.. just shines... so I have always tied to His compassion.

In the end.. everything I do thats good.. never me. I had nothing to do with it.. It MUST always help, point to Him.. on and on. See Satan can not create. I believe all the GIFTS MAN has came from God. Not like ..only when you get BORN AGAIN do you get some gift. Some just tune into the wrong station is all aka Satan twists that gift. ALL good things come from God.
 
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Very brave to say that here.
Good for you.
I know someone who is empathic. People who aren't ready to show the truth and speak it tell her she's imagining things when she see's past their bs. She's great with animals too. Where people say, oh, don't go there they'll bite, she's just enjoying the day and sharing space with what others are afraid will bite them. And they don't enjoy the day because they're afraid of what shares in that same sunlight with them.

How did you find such an ancient thread?
I am seeking answers, having had such a difficult childhood and adulthood, attacked by narcissist etc. Something isn't right here. Where did this gift come from? Whats its purpose? Is it biblical? Why can I read peoples minds and speak to some telepathically? How come I can feel someones energy long before she appears physically? Why are my instincts always correct? Now I found I am not the only one with these abilities plus many more, but why?
 
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TemporaryCircumstances... I have never seen this as a gift. And its something I have never talked about other then with my wife or kids. Well I can't find anything in the word. The word "Empaths" for me is of the world.. its the 1st thing I think of. A word I have never used to describe this. Since I was young I have always wanted to feel hear see what He does..with people. His compassion oh.. ... I can not explain how much I have ALWAYS wanted that. Just something in me.. can't explain. To read or feel what others are going through.. everyone can to some extent can. But "this" for me its always on. I can't turn it off. Times I almost wanted to but... never went there.

So...for me anything that points to ME and not Him.. well says it all. Not of God. This is why I NEVER other then now.. and even then I have not even touch all of this. For me to talk about it.. points to ME. I know its of HIM. Anyway.. I don't see it as a gift since I have always desired this. That LOVE that compassion... it just screams so to speak.. just shines... so I have always tied to His compassion.

In the end.. everything I do thats good.. never me. I had nothing to do with it.. It MUST always help, point to Him.. on and on. See Satan can not create. I believe all the GIFTS MAN has came from God. Not like ..only when you get BORN AGAIN do you get some gift. Some just tune into the wrong station is all aka Satan twists that gift. ALL good things come from God.
I am starting to think this is a gift from God, and satan twists it into a new age thing to deceive us.
 
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I am seeking answers, having had such a difficult childhood and adulthood, attacked by narcissist etc. Something isn't right here. Where did this gift come from? Whats its purpose? Is it biblical? Why can I read peoples minds and speak to some telepathically? How come I can feel someones energy long before she appears physically? Why are my instincts always correct? Now I found I am not the only one with these abilities plus many more, but why?
I don't have their ability. I was sharing what I know about what they've told me and what I've witnessed when with them.
Anything I'd share would be just my opinion not part of a personal understanding or experience of being empathic.
 
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I could be wrong, but what I understand about "empaths" is that they have a strong inclination toward empathy, which means they identify with other people's feelings.

From my experience self proclaimed "empaths" they really take an optional side in a dispute rather than identifying with the feelings of the all the opposition parties and being able to use that to attempt reconciliation.
 

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I don't normally quote articles but being a bit dumb about this concept I found a decent article on Got Questions and I bolded what I believe are pertinent parts.

Question: "What is an empath? What does it mean to be empathic?"

Answer:
The word empath comes from the word empathy, which is defined as “the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.” An empathetic person is one who can intuitively sense what someone else feels and imagine what it would be like to feel those feelings. An empathic person, on the other hand, is one who actually experiences the emotions of another, even becoming physically affected by those emotions and possibly knowing the motivations behind a person’s feelings or actions. Empathic abilities have to do with sensing “body energies,” “vibes,” and other esoteric forces. The concept of being an empath primarily comes out of New Age mysticism coupled with bits of modern science (some biological, some psychological) of how emotions affect our bodies.

Empaths are not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible does have some relevant things to say. As Christians, we gauge whether something is true by Scripture (John 17:17; Psalm 119:160; 2 Timothy 3:16). This is important in this discussion because those who promote the idea of being an empath generally gauge truth by emotion. While emotions are not innately bad (in fact, they are a part of how God made us), they should not be our foundation of truth for three reasons: our hearts cannot be trusted (Jeremiah 17:9), emotions are fickle (Psalm 42:1–5), and emotions were never meant to lead us (Psalm 119:105; Romans 8:14).

The concept of the empath, or one having empathic abilities, is explored heavily in science fiction and accepted by many New Age philosophies. For example, Deanna Troi, a fictional character in Star Trek: The Next Generation, was a half-human with empathic abilities, which aided her work as a counselor. According to Trek lore, Troi’s mother was from an alien race of empaths. An empath also shows up in an episode of the original series of Star Trek. Those characters and their storylines further New Age and occult notions.

To lend better understanding to the term empathic, we can compare it to the word telepathic. Theoretically, a telepath would be able to literally hear the thoughts of another person inside his own mind. Just as theoretically, an empath would literally feel the feelings of another person. Within the New Age movement, empaths are generally defined as extra-sensitive beings who can experience the emotions of any person—or animal—standing nearby, regardless of context or knowledge. This understanding is of course very subjective and is on the level of supposed psychic abilities that some claim to have.

The claim that empaths can perceive the physical sensitivities and spiritual urges of others is a characteristic shared by many in the occult. No one except God has the ability to perceive the motivations and intentions of someone else (Psalm 139; John 2:25; 1 Corinthians 2:10–11). First Corinthians 2:11 says, “Who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them?” We are not given that insight.

Of course, empathy, or the ability to listen to, understand, and relate to the emotions of others, is a valuable gift, and there is nothing unbiblical about the idea of carrying another person’s burdens, emotional or otherwise (Galatians 6:2). In fact, God’s Spirit is described as a comforter of the suffering (2 Corinthians 1:3–6). But claiming the powers of an empath goes beyond proper compassion and godly sensitivity and enters the realm of the psychic.
 
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I would say sometimes we may wish to consider the bible doesn't know everything. If we set our understanding about this topic to the parameters set by what others think must meet a scriptural term and condition or diagram, we will miss the mark greatly. I say this as someone who , as mentioned, knows someone with empathic ability. I see it as a gift.
 
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I'm an 'empath' but I don't trust titles or movements that are associated with them. To me the name is just an easy way for me to make reference to the characteristics, without going through them all.

I can tell you whole heartedly that I don't follow any new age/occult/psychic beliefs/views of any kind. I personally believe the new agers are guilty of stealing these characteristics and claiming them to be some kind of psychic ability (which they are not) and then giving them a fancy title as well as their own personal false "spiritual" explanation as to how these characteristics came to be. I don't trust any person's explanations.

The characteristics, however, are very real. This is not a psychic gift and should have no association with the new age movement at all. It's sad the two are associated.

The ability to read a room full of people in great depth, to where you know their thoughts/emotions, does not make you a psychic, it's just that you are very in tune with a person's emotions. The downside is that you see all the negative thoughts also, and I wish I could turn it off sometimes because it affects me when I take on the emotions of others as if they are my own.

All I can say is that I am who I am because of Him, so any gifts/abilities He gives me should be looked on as a blessing.


Copy/paste from a christian site....

Empathy, or the ability to listen to, understand, and relate to the emotions of others, is a valuable gift, and there is nothing unbiblical about the idea of carrying another person’s burdens, emotional or otherwise (Galatians 6:2). In fact, God’s Spirit is described as a comforter of the suffering (2 Cor 1:3-6). But claiming the powers of an empath goes beyond proper compassion and godly sensitivity and enters the realm of the psychic.
The last new revelation making the word of God complete ended with John . 7 seals were added to make sure the father of lies did not bring and new false prophecy as lying wonders. The world just loves it self edifying wonders . .it is on the rise making the faith of Christ without effect.

Making a calculated guess as a people watcher is not prophecy. Prophecy comes after one form. . as it is written. Every thing else. . out of body dreams or vision if to speculate. Only God can se into the heart of another and move them giving them a desire and power to perform it.

Colossians 2 speaks of those who use the illusions brought into one fleshly mind by the spirit of error . When Jesus encountered that in Mathew 4 .The father gave Jesus the prophet words that make the father of lies flee. as it is written

The one manner by which we can hear our father not seen;;

Colossians 2 :18 ERV Some people enjoy acting as if they are humble and love to worship angels.They always talk about the visions they have seen. Don’t listen to them when they say you are wrong because you don’t do these things. It is so foolish for them to feel such pride, because it is all based on their own human ideas. They don’t keep themselves under the control of the head. Christ is the head, and the whole body depends on him. Because of Christ all the parts of the body care for each other and help each other. So the body is made stronger and held together as God causes it to grow.
 

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I would say sometimes we may wish to consider the bible doesn't know everything. If we set our understanding about this topic to the parameters set by what others think must meet a scriptural term and condition or diagram, we will miss the mark greatly. I say this as someone who , as mentioned, knows someone with empathic ability. I see it as a gift.
The Bible may not reveal everything, but it's Author knows all things. We as born again Christians have that same Author living inside us. If we go beyond what He has revealed in His Word then we are acting on our own accord and living in dangerous territory.
 
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All I can say is, I have had conversations with someone else (Elsa) telepathically. She has also shared information she wouldn't have otherwise known, I am estranged from my family, however my brother rang me last year after a long absence. I told no one, however she knew he called, as she said I am pleased your brother called you last night. How the heck did she know that?? This is just one example.So these gifts are real, and as I am a follower of Jesus Christ I can only assume its a gift. For what purpose I don't know yet. BTW Elsa obviously has the same gifts but is a narcissist.
 
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oh, and its not something that can just be turned off like a tap. Its here to stay.
 
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All I can say is, I have had conversations with someone else (Elsa) telepathically. She has also shared information she wouldn't have otherwise known, I am estranged from my family, however my brother rang me last year after a long absence. I told no one, however she knew he called, as she said I am pleased your brother called you last night. How the heck did she know that?? This is just one example.So these gifts are real, and as I am a follower of Jesus Christ I can only assume its a gift. For what purpose I don't know yet. BTW Elsa obviously has the same gifts but is a narcissist.
We must be careful how we hear. A good example is found in Mathew 4. When Jesus having a vision as the prophet was given words from the father, the Lord not seen rebuked him and 3 times declared as it is written .Emphasizing the one source of Christian faith (Christ's) by which we can believe the unseen world .The devil left.

I can remember once I was listening to Walter Martin author of the kingdom of the Cults. He knew a person who had lived on the east cost. who had a long relationship with his girlfriend. They had gotten into a argument and he moved to the west coast.. Not having any sleep he sought help of a hypnotist. In time he was asked to recall and was in effect moved to her doorway, the doctor said go in. Then the doctor asked what is she doing? He replied; writing a letter to him . The doctor recorded the words and shortly after the boyfriend did receive a letter .It was very close to what the person said to have seen . Mess with fire a person can get burnt . . Again be careful how you hear.

Its not flesh blood we do wrestle against.

Luke 8:18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.
 

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All I can say is, I have had conversations with someone else (Elsa) telepathically. She has also shared information she wouldn't have otherwise known, I am estranged from my family, however my brother rang me last year after a long absence. I told no one, however she knew he called, as she said I am pleased your brother called you last night. How the heck did she know that?? This is just one example.So these gifts are real, and as I am a follower of Jesus Christ I can only assume its a gift. For what purpose I don't know yet. BTW Elsa obviously has the same gifts but is a narcissist.
oh, and its not something that can just be turned off like a tap. Its here to stay.
You have never heard of deceiving spirits?

2 Corinthians 11:14 KJV
[14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 
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All I can say is, I have had conversations with someone else (Elsa) telepathically. She has also shared information she wouldn't have otherwise known, I am estranged from my family, however my brother rang me last year after a long absence. I told no one, however she knew he called, as she said I am pleased your brother called you last night. How the heck did she know that?? This is just one example.So these gifts are real, and as I am a follower of Jesus Christ I can only assume its a gift. For what purpose I don't know yet. BTW Elsa obviously has the same gifts but is a narcissist.

you are describing something that is occult in nature

there are no Christian 'empaths'

before Star Trek people didn't even know what an empath was and now it sounds romantic and special

there are gifts of the Holy Spirit that may convey certain things but they should bring glory to God

what you describe is NOT a gift of the Holy Spirit

you are not special. you are suffering from something that should be bound and cast away in the name of Jesus

and I do know what I am talking about