The Tragic Loss of Kobe Bryant An American Professional Basketball Athlete Was Dishonored And Christians Should Stand Against Racism

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I just reviewed dozens of photo's of Kobe Bryant on the internet. Most of them seemed respectful of his career as a basketball player.
However, the photo chosen for the cover of the Los Angeles Times newspaper after the tragic loss of his life, along with his young daughter, and I believe 7 other individuals on board the aircraft, was the same photo chosen for the Los Angeles Times Commemorative magazine issue, which was clearly disrespectful of his career as a star basketball player, since the photo chosen, out of hundreds and hundreds over his career, was one that depicted him as an angry warrior in a fit of rage, when he was probably enjoying a moment of victory related to a basketball game, shouting to express the joy of victory. Basketball is a non-contact sport, with strict rules of non-violence and accidental or deliberate contact between players during the game.
The photo chosen to represent his life on both the cover of the Los Angeles Times newspaper, and one of the commemorative issues - and there were more than one photo's for different versions of the commemorative issues, were clearly disrespectful, racist, and dishonored his career and is demeaning to African-American people, regardless of the known, and unknown issues in his life, public and private, and by nature of the violence depicted in the photo, was clearly deliberate. No professional magazine or newspaper would publish such a volatile and disrespectful photo, unless they had malicious intent. Such reckless-endangerment through social media is reprehensible and very dangerous, since it has a destabilizing effect, and I, for one, as a Christian man of God of European descent, on behalf of all cultures, am demanding an immediate apology from the Los Angeles Times, if that has not already occurred.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-01-27/kobe-bryant-killed-helicopter-crash

This guys not making a whole lot of sense.
 
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Thanks for posting, I will try to view the link later tonight.
In the time it took you to write that you could have clicked the link and seen the picture that appeared in the LA Times reporting KB's death.

Maybe you're the racist.
 
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I just reviewed dozens of photo's of Kobe Bryant on the internet. Most of them seemed respectful of his career as a basketball player.
However, the photo chosen for the cover of the Los Angeles Times newspaper after the tragic loss of his life, along with his young daughter, and I believe 7 other individuals on board the aircraft, was the same photo chosen for the Los Angeles Times Commemorative magazine issue, which was clearly disrespectful of his career as a star basketball player, since the photo chosen, out of hundreds and hundreds over his career, was one that depicted him as an angry warrior in a fit of rage, when he was probably enjoying a moment of victory related to a basketball game, shouting to express the joy of victory. Basketball is a non-contact sport, with strict rules of non-violence and accidental or deliberate contact between players during the game.
The photo chosen to represent his life on both the cover of the Los Angeles Times newspaper, and one of the commemorative issues - and there were more than one photo's for different versions of the commemorative issues, were clearly disrespectful, racist, and dishonored his career and is demeaning to African-American people, regardless of the known, and unknown issues in his life, public and private, and by nature of the violence depicted in the photo, was clearly deliberate. No professional magazine or newspaper would publish such a volatile and disrespectful photo, unless they had malicious intent. Such reckless-endangerment through social media is reprehensible and very dangerous, since it has a destabilizing effect, and I, for one, as a Christian man of God of European descent, on behalf of all cultures, am demanding an immediate apology from the Los Angeles Times, if that has not already occurred.
truly, it seems you may interpret the photo wrong since the media would have been all over it if it was you say

what I do find disturbing myself, actually, are the photos that are said to have been leaked of the bodies of those who died in the crash

apparently, that is not rumor and that would be upsetting no matter who had died

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill and though alot about Bryant and are upset at his death

I don't know
 
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I, for one, as a Christian man of God of European descent, on behalf of all cultures, am demanding an immediate apology from the Los Angeles Times, if that has not already occurred.

well ok then

ALL white people in the US and Canada are from European descent

what does that have to do with it?

(not really asking)

you know, I was just curious but you have not provided the response that would define your op via a photo IMO

anyway, the doctor from China who tried to warn about the virus and was made to shut up and then later died of said virus, is a far superior hero to a sport star

whatever. to each their own I guess
 

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I see absolutely NOTHING racist/ prejudiced in that photo of Kobe..

Sorry Herald..
 

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In the time it took you to write that you could have clicked the link and seen the picture that appeared in the LA Times reporting KB's death.

Maybe you're the racist.
I was able to finally read the news story. I'm saddened to hear of the crash that took the lives of 9 people including Kobe's daughter. I live in a remote area and have been sleeping in my car at times, please forgive my delayed responses. But, the photo in question on the cover of the LA Times paper and one magazine cover does not honor Kobe's career or life, and would not be right to post it at this time.
 
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I was able to finally read the news story. I'm saddened to hear of the crash that took the lives of 9 people including Kobe's daughter. I live in a remote area and have been sleeping in my car at times, please forgive my delayed responses. But, the photo in question on the cover of the LA Times paper and one magazine cover does not honor Kobe's career or life, and would not be right to post it at this time.
This time days after you opened a discussion about this supposed photo? You play games on the memory of a dead athlete , his daughter, and their dear friends, making claims about his picture and racism.
That's pathetic.
 

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the only thing I know about Kobe Byrant was he was a star basketball player, but thats about it.

when my friend went missing her photo was on the front page of the paper for weeks and weeks. Because she was modelling at the time, the media chose a photo of her as model. But she doesnt look this way all the time in real life and so that kind of made people judge her unfairly. However that was the only photo they had.
becaause media and journalism is such a quick turnaround time they dont always have time to process photographs and some just take what they can get.
 

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I have worked in media processing photographs keywording them, we had a team of people doing this in 12 hour shifts. because of the lag time they were able to get snaps taken on the day processed quicker if sent to my country.
 

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as for racism nobody ought to put up with it. But I dont really see what is racist about maybe a badly taken photo of someone.

I think the racist attitudes of people are evident in the way people respond to things and make assumptions. Often cos they dont even speak the langauage so they dont understand half the time.
 

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the only thing I know about Kobe Byrant was he was a star basketball player, but thats about it.

when my friend went missing her photo was on the front page of the paper for weeks and weeks. Because she was modelling at the time, the media chose a photo of her as model. But she doesnt look this way all the time in real life and so that kind of made people judge her unfairly. However that was the only photo they had.
becaause media and journalism is such a quick turnaround time they dont always have time to process photographs and some just take what they can get.
I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your friend. The choice of photo's can have an impact on how the public sees a person, and photo's can be used either in a positive way, or negative way. I was not familiar with Mr. Bryant's life, other than his basketball career. I enjoy the sport of basketball, but have lived in an isolated area and so am often current with public news.
 

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I see absolutely NOTHING racist/ prejudiced in that photo of Kobe..

Sorry Herald..
I honor your opinion blue ladybug, but we may not be talking about the same photo. I don't believe it is right, or possibly allowed, to show a controversial copyrighted photo, and if I believe that the photo dishonors people of African descent, or native descent, it would not be right to show it again.

But, your warning about the very real threat of orange kitties, raises Christian Forum Krazy to a new level...
Why would you think orange kitties would be a dire threat? And enjoy reporting to God that they trounced their enemies? Or other cats that were not orange? Are kitties that are not orange, automatically outcast?
That sounds like cat profiling at it's worst....
 

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well ok then

ALL white people in the US and Canada are from European descent

what does that have to do with it?

(not really asking)

you know, I was just curious but you have not provided the response that would define your op via a photo IMO

anyway, the doctor from China who tried to warn about the virus and was made to shut up and then later died of said virus, is a far superior hero to a sport star

whatever. to each their own I guess
As I said, it would not be respectful to show the photo again, and may violate copyrights since it will likely involve legal action.
It would be similar if someone published a photo of a peaceful native person, like the nice native folks who live around here, as an angry warrior with a spear hunting a reindeer, and portraying all native people as being alcoholics, when it is only a very small percentage. It's the same as judging the entire Catholic Church by a small percentage of individuals. Or judging all Germans as warmongers, when it was a German man of God, Martin Luther, who brought back an emphasis on the Grace of God, and raised awareness of abuses within the Catholic Church, that they themselves would not condone, when God touched his routine thesis on a Church door, and started the Reformation. The Catholic Church does honor many of the reforms of the Reformation. So, would it be appropriate to honor the life of Martin Luther by showing him as a soldier with a rifle, when his role was spiritual warfare, and the "whole armor of God," as the Apostle Paul taught in Ephesians 6?
 

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This time days after you opened a discussion about this supposed photo? You play games on the memory of a dead athlete , his daughter, and their dear friends, making claims about his picture and racism.
That's pathetic.
I think you may not be understanding the issue. It isn't about the photo's of the crash, but about the choice of photo's of the athlete himself. One honored his career as an athlete soaring with a basketball, and the other dishonored people of African heritage, regardless of Kobe Bryant's life apart from basketball. It's no way to treat any human being and tread on the grave of an athlete who can not defend themselves. That was an act of racist cowardice by the Los Angeles Times, but only those who were personally responsible. It still dishonored the Los Angeles Times, and the respectable journalists and those who support responsible journalism.
 

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The memory of Kobe Bryant, an accomplished professional basketball athlete, was dishonored by a photo on a magazine cover that was clearly racist. While this noble athlete had some troubling news stories and private challenges, which I have not fully researched, and which appear to be unresolved, the portrayal of him as an angry warrior as the centerpiece photo mis-representing his entire life, was disrespectful to African-Americans, regardless of his private life.

Basketball is a gentleman's sport accessible to all races and cultures, and not a warrior battle.
He was just a ball player, no better than anyone else.
 
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I think you may not be understanding the issue. It isn't about the photo's of the crash, but about the choice of photo's of the athlete himself. One honored his career as an athlete soaring with a basketball, and the other dishonored people of African heritage, regardless of Kobe Bryant's life apart from basketball. It's no way to treat any human being and tread on the grave of an athlete who can not defend themselves. That was an act of racist cowardice by the Los Angeles Times, but only those who were personally responsible. It still dishonored the Los Angeles Times, and the respectable journalists and those who support responsible journalism.
You're the one treading on the grave with this baseless accusation you started here. You don't even show what photo you're talking about. You just keep on with your accusation about something that so far can't be proven to exist.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but HOW is a photo of a person who APPEARS to be angry, racist?? I could post a photo of myself yelling angrily, would that be deemed racist also?

Or, is it because he's a black dude who looks angry? That look of anger COULD have actually been a look of frustration or even determination. Sometimes, facial expressions are misleading..