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Did you hear this audibly?
Was it dictated to you?
If this is true, it is EXTREMELY important and actually trumps what is written, since it is just spoken BY JESUS CHRIST TODAY.
Is that your claim?
This is in the First Person spoken directly by Jesus Christ through you, to deliver to His Church.
is that right?
Does Jesus need to speak this way (directly to us through you) because people are NOT hearing Him through His Word, or because they ARE hearing Him through His Word.
I'm not clear on why He needs to speak through you. Is it because people don't love him enough? Not enough faith? Not enough prayer?
They aren't obedient enough? smart enough? born again? serving properly? baptised incorrectly?
What exactly does he want from His people He hasn't already made clear in The Word?
Jesus Christ already said NO ONE CAN COME TO HIM EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAWS THEM. and that ALL (that's ALL) who come to Him HE WILL (not maybe) raise up at the last day.
So who is it He is speaking to about COMING TO HIM? unsaved people?
JESUS CHRIST SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THIS FORUM TODAY, through you, and these are his very words. That is the claim.
Was it dictated to you?
If this is true, it is EXTREMELY important and actually trumps what is written, since it is just spoken BY JESUS CHRIST TODAY.
Is that your claim?
This is in the First Person spoken directly by Jesus Christ through you, to deliver to His Church.
is that right?
Does Jesus need to speak this way (directly to us through you) because people are NOT hearing Him through His Word, or because they ARE hearing Him through His Word.
I'm not clear on why He needs to speak through you. Is it because people don't love him enough? Not enough faith? Not enough prayer?
They aren't obedient enough? smart enough? born again? serving properly? baptised incorrectly?
What exactly does he want from His people He hasn't already made clear in The Word?
Jesus Christ already said NO ONE CAN COME TO HIM EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAWS THEM. and that ALL (that's ALL) who come to Him HE WILL (not maybe) raise up at the last day.
So who is it He is speaking to about COMING TO HIM? unsaved people?
JESUS CHRIST SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THIS FORUM TODAY, through you, and these are his very words. That is the claim.
P
Nevertheless, Jesus Christ Lord Almighty, Alpha and Omega, The First and the Last has spoken directly through two prophets on this forum in recent days.
The two prophets now have more Authority than the Apostles, more authority than the Old Testament Prophets and more Authority than Scripture, since we are to believe JESUS CHRIST HAS JUST SPOKEN DIRECTLY IN FIRST PERSON IN OUR DAY, RIGHT HERE.
The two prophets now have more Authority than the Apostles, more authority than the Old Testament Prophets and more Authority than Scripture, since we are to believe JESUS CHRIST HAS JUST SPOKEN DIRECTLY IN FIRST PERSON IN OUR DAY, RIGHT HERE.
M
Do you think deception will say, "peace and safety?" "All is good?" That is EXACTLY what 'deception' says. It says "peace, peace, but there is no peace".
Or, do you think that that His voice will call us to repentance? Are you a prophet? Because only a PROVEN Prophet can speak to the masses. New Testament prophecy: 1 Corinthians 14:3 "But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. When someone comes in judgment and correction, that is NOT what true prophecy is.
Jesus did not say that we would know His voice.
He said that we would hear His voice. Right...and in order to know that it is His voice to listen know, we must KNOW His voice. Taking verses out of context of the ORIGINAL meaning does not support your case.
I have even less reason to have pride than you can guess. I can judge no one, seeing as I am the worst sinner I know. Christians are called to JUDGE THE FRUIT. Your 'prophecy' is not edifying, exhorting OR consoling.
If you knew me, you would know that I have, and do not want any authority. IF you knew the word and are a believer, you would KNOW that you DO have authority. But you do not seem to comphrehend this truth so your words fall to the ground and we are not to heed them at all.
Maggie
Or, do you think that that His voice will call us to repentance? Are you a prophet? Because only a PROVEN Prophet can speak to the masses. New Testament prophecy: 1 Corinthians 14:3 "But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. When someone comes in judgment and correction, that is NOT what true prophecy is.
Jesus did not say that we would know His voice.
He said that we would hear His voice. Right...and in order to know that it is His voice to listen know, we must KNOW His voice. Taking verses out of context of the ORIGINAL meaning does not support your case.
I have even less reason to have pride than you can guess. I can judge no one, seeing as I am the worst sinner I know. Christians are called to JUDGE THE FRUIT. Your 'prophecy' is not edifying, exhorting OR consoling.
If you knew me, you would know that I have, and do not want any authority. IF you knew the word and are a believer, you would KNOW that you DO have authority. But you do not seem to comphrehend this truth so your words fall to the ground and we are not to heed them at all.
Maggie
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John 10:14
I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me,
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Do you actually believe this is speaking of the CHURCH???:
1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
this is MY SHEPHERD:
John 10
1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
My shepherd doesn't DESPISE AND loathe WHAT HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE FOR.
I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me,
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
Do you actually believe this is speaking of the CHURCH???:
1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
this is MY SHEPHERD:
John 10
1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
My shepherd doesn't DESPISE AND loathe WHAT HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE FOR.
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VW,
I understand that. The Lord is opening up to us the books that have been closed in Daniel 12:9.
Revelation 1:1; " The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
This is saying we now have a short space....short time....
Zech.2:9; "For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me."
I know that God sent you to say that VW.
We see the tribe of Manasses in Rev. 7:6 but what scripture has just revealed to us is that the tribe of Ephraim is there also. Is. 9:21...When Christ died on the cross....he reconciled everything back. Ephraim is Manasseh and Manasseh is Ephraim.
In other words we are looking at not 12 tribes but 14 tribes. We just never saw that before. Even Dan but we will see him as something evil in Rev.
Yes, it takes a humble heart to hear God.
If God is revealing this (I know he is)............................there's no way anyone will stop it.
I understand that. The Lord is opening up to us the books that have been closed in Daniel 12:9.
Revelation 1:1; " The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
This is saying we now have a short space....short time....
Zech.2:9; "For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me."
I know that God sent you to say that VW.
We see the tribe of Manasses in Rev. 7:6 but what scripture has just revealed to us is that the tribe of Ephraim is there also. Is. 9:21...When Christ died on the cross....he reconciled everything back. Ephraim is Manasseh and Manasseh is Ephraim.
In other words we are looking at not 12 tribes but 14 tribes. We just never saw that before. Even Dan but we will see him as something evil in Rev.
Yes, it takes a humble heart to hear God.
If God is revealing this (I know he is)............................there's no way anyone will stop it.
The prophet is nothing.
The Lord is everything, and His voice is His, and He speaks as He desires.
One cannot be a prophet until they learn that they are nothing, and that Jesus is everything.
And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: .....................................
Seems that the Lord does speak destruction to the church, unless we think that being spit from His mouth speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation
Hmmm.............in Christ
The Lord is everything, and His voice is His, and He speaks as He desires.
One cannot be a prophet until they learn that they are nothing, and that Jesus is everything.
And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: .....................................
Seems that the Lord does speak destruction to the church, unless we think that being spit from His mouth speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation
Hmmm.............in Christ
I beg forgiveness if some of my answers were less than graceful.
Something about prophets, that is true for every person who loves the Lord and seeks to please Him; all of us will at times be asked to do things we are unwilling to do, things that take us out of our comfort zone, things that stretch our imagination. We have entered into an agreement with the living God of all, to obey His voice. And just as the Sporit spoke to the apostles and the elders,'telling them to go someplace they were not, and speak the words of life to someone they did not know, so He will have servants who will obey His voice again, as we enter into these last days. God's heart is that none should perish, but that all come to the knowledge of the truth. Yet we know that most will not hear. What we have not understood is why they will not and cannot hear the truth.
Paul said an amazing thing once. He said that he wanted to go where the name of Jesus had never been heard. The reason he felt this way is the reason most cannot hear. Here is that reason;
Jesus did all of His works, the works that the Father had given Him to accomplish, in the nation of Israel. And the most significant work, laying down His life so He could take it up again, He did in Jerusalem, during a religious feast that brought most Jews to the temple in Jerusalem. Jews were already spread throughout the known world at this time,'so when they went home, they naturally talked about Jesus and the things He did. But they spoke from the knowledge of the natural man, things seen and heard with the senses, understood with the mind. Jesus was a very well known name throughout the Roman empire within a few years of His resurrection. Yet, the knowledge of His works and His resurrection didnot work salvation in most of those who heard. Indeed,'this knowledge had the opposite effect,and even made them particularly resistant to the words of the gospel. This was especially true for the Jews, who has been schooled in the Law and the prophets.
It took me a long time to understand this, to see how this could be. At first, I did not want to see, and then the consequences as I begin to understand were overwhelming in their enormity. However, God's wisdom cannot be denied, not with impunity. I will try to explain, but it is difficult to pit into words.
There is more than one kind of faith. We see this in the children of Israel when they were in bondage. They cried to God to deliver them from their slavery. God sent them a prophet. (Any here not believe that Moses was a prophet?) and yet, at every turn, the people complained, about Moses, and the things that happened to them, and about God's plan to deliver them. They had faith in God, but we cannot call it saving faith. And we know that they all died without receiving the promise, for only one reason. They hardened their hearts against the voice of God.
Moses, on the other hand, had another kind of faith. I call this kind of faith the faith of the prophet. Moses was just like the rest of the people, until that day at the burning bush. There his faith in God was confronted with a reality that was beyond his comprehension. Moses now believed in the God he had seen and heard and spoken to. He was profoundly changed by this encounter with God. Therefore, Moses cannot take any credit for his faith, and he never did. He heard the voice of the Lord until the end of his days.
There is yet another kind of faith, that which we see in David. To David, God was everything. There was no more pecious thing in David's heart than God. And for this reason, God called David a man after His own heart.
But now, Jesus is raised from the dead. If one confesses Him as Lord, and believes in their heart that God has raised Him from the dead, that one shall be saved. But what kind of faith is this, that one believes in their heart? Is it faith like the children had in the wilderness? No, because God swore in His anger that they would never enter His rest. Doesn't sound like He was pleased with them. And we can believe that if He is not pleased with us that we will not enter His rest either, we will die in the wilderness just as they did.
So, what is the faith that pleases God, that brings one from death into life, from darkness into the kingdom of God's own Son? Is it the faith of the Jews of His day, who still believed in God, and knew His written word, but when the Son came, they rejected Him because He was just like them, only spoke differently so that they could not receive His words? Is it the faith of the scribes and the Pharisees, who knew the Law and the prophets, but when Jesus came to them speaking the truth, tried again and again to stone Him, and then delivered Him up to death at the hands of their oppressors? Is it the faith of most of those in the assemblies, who have read and studied the word, but have never heard the voice of the Son, because He has finished speaking, and we have the whole consoul of God in written form?
The faith which saves, which Paul wanted to see growing in those je preached to is that which says God is our Father, and I know that He wants me to draw near to Him in love for Him, so much that He sent Jesus to make the way for this possible. This faith does not raise man to heaven, nor does it bring God down to earth, but rather it brings together a great God with His children.
All this to say that the words I speak in His name are for one reason, one reason alone. God loves you all, and He wants you as His children, children who know Him and love Him. If you cannot see that, then maybe you have the wrong kind of faith.
In Christ,
Something about prophets, that is true for every person who loves the Lord and seeks to please Him; all of us will at times be asked to do things we are unwilling to do, things that take us out of our comfort zone, things that stretch our imagination. We have entered into an agreement with the living God of all, to obey His voice. And just as the Sporit spoke to the apostles and the elders,'telling them to go someplace they were not, and speak the words of life to someone they did not know, so He will have servants who will obey His voice again, as we enter into these last days. God's heart is that none should perish, but that all come to the knowledge of the truth. Yet we know that most will not hear. What we have not understood is why they will not and cannot hear the truth.
Paul said an amazing thing once. He said that he wanted to go where the name of Jesus had never been heard. The reason he felt this way is the reason most cannot hear. Here is that reason;
Jesus did all of His works, the works that the Father had given Him to accomplish, in the nation of Israel. And the most significant work, laying down His life so He could take it up again, He did in Jerusalem, during a religious feast that brought most Jews to the temple in Jerusalem. Jews were already spread throughout the known world at this time,'so when they went home, they naturally talked about Jesus and the things He did. But they spoke from the knowledge of the natural man, things seen and heard with the senses, understood with the mind. Jesus was a very well known name throughout the Roman empire within a few years of His resurrection. Yet, the knowledge of His works and His resurrection didnot work salvation in most of those who heard. Indeed,'this knowledge had the opposite effect,and even made them particularly resistant to the words of the gospel. This was especially true for the Jews, who has been schooled in the Law and the prophets.
It took me a long time to understand this, to see how this could be. At first, I did not want to see, and then the consequences as I begin to understand were overwhelming in their enormity. However, God's wisdom cannot be denied, not with impunity. I will try to explain, but it is difficult to pit into words.
There is more than one kind of faith. We see this in the children of Israel when they were in bondage. They cried to God to deliver them from their slavery. God sent them a prophet. (Any here not believe that Moses was a prophet?) and yet, at every turn, the people complained, about Moses, and the things that happened to them, and about God's plan to deliver them. They had faith in God, but we cannot call it saving faith. And we know that they all died without receiving the promise, for only one reason. They hardened their hearts against the voice of God.
Moses, on the other hand, had another kind of faith. I call this kind of faith the faith of the prophet. Moses was just like the rest of the people, until that day at the burning bush. There his faith in God was confronted with a reality that was beyond his comprehension. Moses now believed in the God he had seen and heard and spoken to. He was profoundly changed by this encounter with God. Therefore, Moses cannot take any credit for his faith, and he never did. He heard the voice of the Lord until the end of his days.
There is yet another kind of faith, that which we see in David. To David, God was everything. There was no more pecious thing in David's heart than God. And for this reason, God called David a man after His own heart.
But now, Jesus is raised from the dead. If one confesses Him as Lord, and believes in their heart that God has raised Him from the dead, that one shall be saved. But what kind of faith is this, that one believes in their heart? Is it faith like the children had in the wilderness? No, because God swore in His anger that they would never enter His rest. Doesn't sound like He was pleased with them. And we can believe that if He is not pleased with us that we will not enter His rest either, we will die in the wilderness just as they did.
So, what is the faith that pleases God, that brings one from death into life, from darkness into the kingdom of God's own Son? Is it the faith of the Jews of His day, who still believed in God, and knew His written word, but when the Son came, they rejected Him because He was just like them, only spoke differently so that they could not receive His words? Is it the faith of the scribes and the Pharisees, who knew the Law and the prophets, but when Jesus came to them speaking the truth, tried again and again to stone Him, and then delivered Him up to death at the hands of their oppressors? Is it the faith of most of those in the assemblies, who have read and studied the word, but have never heard the voice of the Son, because He has finished speaking, and we have the whole consoul of God in written form?
The faith which saves, which Paul wanted to see growing in those je preached to is that which says God is our Father, and I know that He wants me to draw near to Him in love for Him, so much that He sent Jesus to make the way for this possible. This faith does not raise man to heaven, nor does it bring God down to earth, but rather it brings together a great God with His children.
All this to say that the words I speak in His name are for one reason, one reason alone. God loves you all, and He wants you as His children, children who know Him and love Him. If you cannot see that, then maybe you have the wrong kind of faith.
In Christ,
P
Revelation 3
To the Church in Laodicea 14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. 17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.20 Behold,I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”
Revelation 22
Jesus Is Coming 6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.”
7 “And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, 9 But he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servantd with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”
10 And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”
12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
14 Blessed are those who wash their robes,e so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.f Amen.
To the Church in Laodicea 14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. 17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.20 Behold,I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”
Revelation 22
Jesus Is Coming 6 And he said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.”
7 “And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, 9 But he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servantd with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”
10 And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”
12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
14 Blessed are those who wash their robes,e so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.f Amen.
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God is not a God of chances but a God of justice, mercy and grace. Just because God gives an alloted time for someone to repent and they do not, that does not make God a God of chances. God responds to humility and contrition in the heart and not how much we repent. Christ paid for all our sin but do we recognize that and confess that with our mouth when we sin? God is not a God of chances but One who will never leave or forsake you in the time of trouble or in the joy of victory. God is not a God of chances but one who is immutable and never changes.
Today more than ever, every believer needs to be edified in the truth and in the love of God, not prophesied against when they may be in a time of trouble. They need to be built up in the word and doctrine through grace and not have some label put on them by those that have a grudge against the church. The pastors and teachers that God has raised up for the church need to be honored and not scorned by ignorant and foolish men. If there are those that want to prophecy against the church, then let them make themself of the number. If they prophecy without, let them receive to themselves that which they prophecy against.
We are all called to be in one body, with one Lord and one Spirit having one faith and one baptism. Christ is the head of the church and we are all members of His body, flesh and bones. To prophesy against the church you must also include the head who is not detached from His body. Every member has a supply of the Spirit that comes from the head, Christ. We need to build up and receive from that supply so that we can, as one body, be built up as a habitation of God. A place that God dwells and inhabits as our God and we are His redeemed people and family. Let us always judge according to mercy because when we do, others will here the voice of God who is the Father of all mercies and the God of all grace.
Here is my WORD of prophetic utterance and edification:
Ps 103
1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
6 The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.
7 He made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel.
8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.
19 The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
21 Bless ye the LORD, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.
22 Bless the LORD, all his works in all places of his dominion: bless the LORD, O my soul.
Today more than ever, every believer needs to be edified in the truth and in the love of God, not prophesied against when they may be in a time of trouble. They need to be built up in the word and doctrine through grace and not have some label put on them by those that have a grudge against the church. The pastors and teachers that God has raised up for the church need to be honored and not scorned by ignorant and foolish men. If there are those that want to prophecy against the church, then let them make themself of the number. If they prophecy without, let them receive to themselves that which they prophecy against.
We are all called to be in one body, with one Lord and one Spirit having one faith and one baptism. Christ is the head of the church and we are all members of His body, flesh and bones. To prophesy against the church you must also include the head who is not detached from His body. Every member has a supply of the Spirit that comes from the head, Christ. We need to build up and receive from that supply so that we can, as one body, be built up as a habitation of God. A place that God dwells and inhabits as our God and we are His redeemed people and family. Let us always judge according to mercy because when we do, others will here the voice of God who is the Father of all mercies and the God of all grace.
Here is my WORD of prophetic utterance and edification:
Ps 103
1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
6 The LORD executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.
7 He made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel.
8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.
19 The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
21 Bless ye the LORD, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.
22 Bless the LORD, all his works in all places of his dominion: bless the LORD, O my soul.
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THIS IS THE LAW.
This is the ERROR of all false prophets.
You think you are in a COVENANT OF OBEDIENCE WITH GOD?
You believe that you are PLEASING GOD BY YOUR OBEDIENCE WITHIN A COVENANT OF WORKS.
4 But what is God’s reply to him? “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8as it is written,
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that would not see
and ears that would not hear,
down to this very day.”
and why did Israel fail to obtain what it was seeking?
Romans 10
1 Brothers,a my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.b
Every person in error thinks they are pleasing God by what THEY are DOING.
This teaching of yours is nothing more than LAW with Christ's Name attached.
We are saved by Grace through Faith, both GIFTS.
How come you're the only person on the earth that understands these "mystery "requirements"? Is this some super special hidden kind of faith?
Yes, we who KNOW Christ and His Word KNOW why they CAN NOT HEAR.
God's heart is that NONE should perish?
Isn't God powerful enough to save EVERYONE if that was His Plan?
Where did you learn that? (A misreading of Pete r- who was speaking to the ELECT jews)
Chapter & verse please.
WHAT? if unregenerate men didn't understand, it's because they were unregenerate.
the men who heard and BELIEVED at Pentecost went out and carried the Gospel to the nations they came from. Don't you know that? Don't you know that's what the miracle of the LANGUAGES WAS? Or did you think it was gibberish?
Acts 2
The Coming of the Holy Spirit 1 When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. 2 And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and resteda on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. 7 And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, 11 both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” 12 And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” 13 But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
Peter’s Sermon at Pentecost 14 But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. 15 For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.b 16 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
AND THE RESULT?38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
The Fellowship of the Believers 42 And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43And awed came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44 And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45 And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.
Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
It shouldn't be: the gospel message and Christ's saving ability are powerful enough to save a child who has faith in Him.
And, as expected, here we are back at Moses (and the prophets).
And a COMPLETE misrepresentation of what faith and Grace are, and who entered the Promised Land and who did not and why.
I guess we need the prophet's kind of faith.
And apparently that's very rarely handed out.
It appears to have something to do with being in a COVENANT OF WORKS.
When will you ever know if YOU have done enough to please God?
Matthew 3:17
and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
[/quote]
Is it the faith of the Jews of His day, who still believed in God, and knew His written word, but when the Son came, they rejected Him because He was just like them, only spoke differently so that they could not receive His words? [/quote]
What? reprobate rejecting jews "faith" is compared to Christian faith?
Oh....this is about people who actually believe and love and study God's written testimony of Jesus, right?
[/quote]
Is it the faith of the scribes and the Pharisees, who knew the Law and the prophets, but when Jesus came to them speaking the truth, tried again and again to stone Him, and then delivered Him up to death at the hands of their oppressors?[/quote]
The "faith" of the vipers and serpents, the enemies of Jesus is compared to Christian faith?
[/quote]
Is it the faith of most of those in the assemblies, who have read and studied the word, but have never heard the voice of the Son, because He has finished speaking, and we have the whole consoul of God in written form?[/quote]
YES. THIS IS MY FAITH. The same faith that has sustained Christ's Church since he laid the foundation. The faith delivered ONCE for all.
I read and study the Word AND I hear my Shepherd's voice and i know Him. He NEVER finishes speaking through His Word. He is alive, and true believers commune with Him and each other.
The only trouble this theory of yours is, the completed Word and the Holy Spirit provide EVERYTHING any believer needs.
Which is EXACTLY why we don't need PROPHETS today.
Ands that's what this is all about.
[/quote]
The faith which saves, which Paul wanted to see growing in those je preached to is that which says God is our Father, and I know that He wants me to draw near to Him in love for Him, so much that He sent Jesus to make the way for this possible. This faith does not raise man to heaven, nor does it bring God down to earth, but rather it brings together a great God with His children.[/quote]
Jesus Christ reconciled us to God.
But for you, salvation is only maybe POSSIBLE, IF you are obedient in your agreement (covenant of works). But you will say it is about LOVE. IF we LOVE Him enough to stop thinking His Word and The Holy Spirit are sufficient.
We need a different kind of faith.
One the Bible NEVER MENTIONS: "faith of the prophets".
BUT: this "faith of the prophets" does indeed bring God down to earth. For apparently He is no longer able to sustain the church He purchased with His Blood and intercedes for moment by moment as he has for 1900+ years: He NOW needs to speak through the lips of prophets TODAY.
And He has apparently changed his mind about His Church. So much so, HE WILL NOT EVEN HEAR HER PRAYERS.
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Perhaps we should rewrite God's Word then, for it declares that He does the saving, by Grace, through faith, and that the faith comes from Him, even unto salvation.
And that Christ is FULLY able to save to uttermost those who place their trust in HIM.
Romans 8
Life in the Spirit 1There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
http://esv.scripturetext.com/romans/8.htm
Who are you to condemn those who are in Christ Jesus?
This is the ERROR of all false prophets.
You think you are in a COVENANT OF OBEDIENCE WITH GOD?
You believe that you are PLEASING GOD BY YOUR OBEDIENCE WITHIN A COVENANT OF WORKS.
4 But what is God’s reply to him? “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8as it is written,
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that would not see
and ears that would not hear,
down to this very day.”
and why did Israel fail to obtain what it was seeking?
Romans 10
1 Brothers,a my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.b
Every person in error thinks they are pleasing God by what THEY are DOING.
This teaching of yours is nothing more than LAW with Christ's Name attached.
We are saved by Grace through Faith, both GIFTS.
How come you're the only person on the earth that understands these "mystery "requirements"? Is this some super special hidden kind of faith?
Yes, we who KNOW Christ and His Word KNOW why they CAN NOT HEAR.
God's heart is that NONE should perish?
Isn't God powerful enough to save EVERYONE if that was His Plan?
Where did you learn that? (A misreading of Pete r- who was speaking to the ELECT jews)
Chapter & verse please.
WHAT? if unregenerate men didn't understand, it's because they were unregenerate.
the men who heard and BELIEVED at Pentecost went out and carried the Gospel to the nations they came from. Don't you know that? Don't you know that's what the miracle of the LANGUAGES WAS? Or did you think it was gibberish?
Acts 2
The Coming of the Holy Spirit 1 When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. 2 And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and resteda on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. 7 And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, 11 both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” 12 And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” 13 But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
Peter’s Sermon at Pentecost 14 But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. 15 For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.b 16 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
AND THE RESULT?38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
The Fellowship of the Believers 42 And they devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43And awed came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44 And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45 And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.
Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
It shouldn't be: the gospel message and Christ's saving ability are powerful enough to save a child who has faith in Him.
And, as expected, here we are back at Moses (and the prophets).
And a COMPLETE misrepresentation of what faith and Grace are, and who entered the Promised Land and who did not and why.
I guess we need the prophet's kind of faith.
And apparently that's very rarely handed out.
It appears to have something to do with being in a COVENANT OF WORKS.
When will you ever know if YOU have done enough to please God?
Matthew 3:17
and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
[/quote]
Is it the faith of the Jews of His day, who still believed in God, and knew His written word, but when the Son came, they rejected Him because He was just like them, only spoke differently so that they could not receive His words? [/quote]
What? reprobate rejecting jews "faith" is compared to Christian faith?
Oh....this is about people who actually believe and love and study God's written testimony of Jesus, right?
[/quote]
Is it the faith of the scribes and the Pharisees, who knew the Law and the prophets, but when Jesus came to them speaking the truth, tried again and again to stone Him, and then delivered Him up to death at the hands of their oppressors?[/quote]
The "faith" of the vipers and serpents, the enemies of Jesus is compared to Christian faith?
[/quote]
Is it the faith of most of those in the assemblies, who have read and studied the word, but have never heard the voice of the Son, because He has finished speaking, and we have the whole consoul of God in written form?[/quote]
YES. THIS IS MY FAITH. The same faith that has sustained Christ's Church since he laid the foundation. The faith delivered ONCE for all.
I read and study the Word AND I hear my Shepherd's voice and i know Him. He NEVER finishes speaking through His Word. He is alive, and true believers commune with Him and each other.
The only trouble this theory of yours is, the completed Word and the Holy Spirit provide EVERYTHING any believer needs.
Which is EXACTLY why we don't need PROPHETS today.
Ands that's what this is all about.
[/quote]
The faith which saves, which Paul wanted to see growing in those je preached to is that which says God is our Father, and I know that He wants me to draw near to Him in love for Him, so much that He sent Jesus to make the way for this possible. This faith does not raise man to heaven, nor does it bring God down to earth, but rather it brings together a great God with His children.[/quote]
Jesus Christ reconciled us to God.
But for you, salvation is only maybe POSSIBLE, IF you are obedient in your agreement (covenant of works). But you will say it is about LOVE. IF we LOVE Him enough to stop thinking His Word and The Holy Spirit are sufficient.
We need a different kind of faith.
One the Bible NEVER MENTIONS: "faith of the prophets".
BUT: this "faith of the prophets" does indeed bring God down to earth. For apparently He is no longer able to sustain the church He purchased with His Blood and intercedes for moment by moment as he has for 1900+ years: He NOW needs to speak through the lips of prophets TODAY.
And He has apparently changed his mind about His Church. So much so, HE WILL NOT EVEN HEAR HER PRAYERS.
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Perhaps we should rewrite God's Word then, for it declares that He does the saving, by Grace, through faith, and that the faith comes from Him, even unto salvation.
And that Christ is FULLY able to save to uttermost those who place their trust in HIM.
Romans 8
Life in the Spirit 1There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
http://esv.scripturetext.com/romans/8.htm
Who are you to condemn those who are in Christ Jesus?
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John 14:12; "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."
Revelation 19:10; "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Be very careful what you say about God's anointed.
Revelation 11:5; "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed."
Revelation 19:10; "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
Be very careful what you say about God's anointed.
Revelation 11:5; "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed."
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oh for those reading this thread I have paulnsilas on my ignore list. it is much more pleasant that way. but I can tell you what lies she is telling you without reading her words.
VW. go and read my story and you will see she is listening to those demonic alligators. I had a dream about it all the morning she started posting things on my thread.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22244-message-true-prophets-yhwh-10.html
Red don't listen to her lies she'll lead you into a pit of vipers.
VW. go and read my story and you will see she is listening to those demonic alligators. I had a dream about it all the morning she started posting things on my thread.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/22244-message-true-prophets-yhwh-10.html
Red don't listen to her lies she'll lead you into a pit of vipers.
There was a master, having two sons, and he reserved an inheritance for them in his house, against the hope that they would love him. One son went astray, and left the masters house, took all that had been given him and spent it on a wanton lifestyle. The other son stayed in his father's house, and did all that was required of him. But when the first son was finally able to see that he had wasted his inheritance, and that he was living in abject poverty, he came to his father in repentance, hoping for some small favor from his father, maybe some forgiveness for the way he had lived against him. And his father instructed his other son,the one who had stayed home and done as was required, to prepare a feast for the son who was returning to him. But this son was indignant, and complained, causing his father great sorrow.
There is a way which seems right to the eyes and the mind, a way in which one is able to say of himself, "I have done all that is required of me, and so my Father must be pleased with me." But our Father is not pleased with this, and in fact hates this way intensely.
What our Father wants is for us to love Him. He wants this so much that He paid the ultimate price in order that we would have not one thing that would hinder us in any way from coming into His presence to know His love.
And the truth is that everyone who says that they know God, but do not love to hear His voice because they truly want to know Him as Father, in order to love Him truly, is like the first son, who breaks his father's heart because he cannot love.
So again, you choose your own way, and seek to please God as you choose.
For me, I will love Him with all of my heart, all of my strength, with all that I am. I will listen to His voice, and I will seek His face, because in this is true faith, the faith that Jesus came to bring about.
But if you cannot find this in you, if the way of His love is alien to you, then you have your reward, and you are welcome to it.
In Christ,
There is a way which seems right to the eyes and the mind, a way in which one is able to say of himself, "I have done all that is required of me, and so my Father must be pleased with me." But our Father is not pleased with this, and in fact hates this way intensely.
What our Father wants is for us to love Him. He wants this so much that He paid the ultimate price in order that we would have not one thing that would hinder us in any way from coming into His presence to know His love.
And the truth is that everyone who says that they know God, but do not love to hear His voice because they truly want to know Him as Father, in order to love Him truly, is like the first son, who breaks his father's heart because he cannot love.
So again, you choose your own way, and seek to please God as you choose.
For me, I will love Him with all of my heart, all of my strength, with all that I am. I will listen to His voice, and I will seek His face, because in this is true faith, the faith that Jesus came to bring about.
But if you cannot find this in you, if the way of His love is alien to you, then you have your reward, and you are welcome to it.
In Christ,