Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Jackson123]

Because Muslims follow false prophets, and believe things that are not true!

And that false prophet worship god that give him Quran, that mean his follower follow him to worship Quran god that hate Jesus worshiper

Yet you believe Muslim worship true god

 

[Jackson123]

No, because the Muslims could be lying! In fact, they are!

Lying about what?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so is this now a christian vs muslim thread??lol

 

[Dan_473]

If I say your car is a pink, it's still your ca. But this is only an analogy, can be mislead.

My brother, Doctrine of god is not a car.

You are welcome to say that the analogy is faulty.
Please explain what is faulty about it.
Please note, I'm not asking you to go through once again what it is the Muslims say about God.
What I'm asking you to explain is why lying about a car doesn't change what car it is, but lying about God does change what God it is.

 

[1christian1]

to a muslim, of course they believed that allah is their TRUE God, just us we, christians believed in our Jesus.

Muslims believe that Muhammad was their Jesus. But believe in the same God...

 

[Dan_473]

Sudah 112:1-3

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; (1) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; (2) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; (3) And there is none like unto Him. (4)
Al-Falaq
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Allah try to attack Christ and say Allah not begetteth ( don't have child/so ) nor begot
In this Quran verses, Muslim god direct attack bible

John 3:16

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I don't understand why catholic say that god is the same god as Christian god.

How misleading ccc 841 is.

My brother Jackson, I think that Catholics agree that it is very easy to misunderstand something like the catechism of the Catholic Church if one looks at just a small section. How many sections before 841 did you read, and how many sections afterwards?

 

[Jackson123]

You are welcome to say that the analogy is faulty.
Please explain what is faulty about it.
Please note, I'm not asking you to go through once again what it is the Muslims say about God.
What I'm asking you to explain is why lying about a car doesn't change what car it is, but lying about God does change what God it is.

Uslim not lying about god. But worship god in the Quran. And god in the Quran is enemy of bible god.

 

[Jackson123]

My brother Jackson, I think that Catholics agree that it is very easy to misunderstand something like the catechism of the Catholic Church if one looks at just a small section. How many sections before 841 did you read, and how many sections afterwards?

i read ccc 816 as well

 

[Dan_473]

How Muslim learn about their God? From their god send angel gibril to mohammad and tell mohammad Jesus not god.
So their god must be lucifer

Their god t

The people who became Muslims had some knowledge of God, just as all humans do.
Romans 1: 19 because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them. For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse.

Then Muhammad came along and told them lies.

 

[Dan_473]

But you believe mohammad and other Muslim worship Christian god

I don't know about Muhammad, since he's long dead. But Muslims today, yes. But that doesn't mean that what Muhammad wrote, and everything that Muslims believe, is true.

 

[Dan_473]

And if you ask Muslim, who is their god, they will say, the god that talk to mohammad, documented in Quran.

Yes, and most of them will not be telling the truth, though they don't know that.

 

[Dan_473]

Quran is come from a being that Muslim believe as god, that is why I say Muslim not worship true god

Yes, Muslims believe that the Quran came from God. But that is one of the many things that they believe that is false.

 

[Jackson123]

so is this now a christian vs muslim thread??lol

No we still at catholic vs Protestant, I try to show brother dan that ccc 841 is attack the foundation of Christian faith.

By saying Muslim and Christian share the same god, catholic attack Christian faith foundation

Christian faith foundation is: Jesus is God and die on the cross for our sin

Muslim god say ; Jesus not god and not die on the cross

 

[Jackson123]

Yes, and most of them will not be telling the truth, though they don't know that.

So they admit not worship god that teach Jesus is God and die on the cross. That mean Muslim god is not Christian god

 

[Jackson123]

Yes, Muslims believe that the Quran came from God. But that is one of the many things that they believe that is false.

And Muslim believe the god that say Jesus is not god, so Muslim not worship true god

 

[Jackson123]

Muslims believe that Muhammad was their Jesus. But believe in the same God...

Not is not

Christian believe Jesus is our god

Muslim believe mohammad is prophet, not god.

 

[Dan_473]

Muslim chose to worship god that describe in the Quran.

Yes. What they don't know is that the Quran says something's right about God, and a lot of things wrong!

 

[1christian1]

Not is not

Christian believe Jesus is our god

Muslim believe mohammad is prophet, not god.

They believe that Jesus was a prophet...

 

[Dan_473]

And that false prophet worship god that give him Quran, that mean his follower follow him to worship Quran god that hate Jesus worshiper

I don't know about Muhammad. He may have been sincerely seeking the true God, and along the way he was deceived by his own ego, being in love with the idea that God was giving him revelation, personally and directly.
Or he may have been a con man from the very beginning.

I think Muhammad did write some things about God that are true, and a lot of things that are false!

 

[Dan_473]

Lying about what?

They are lying, for example, when they say that God wrote the Quran or that Jesus didn't die on the cross. Of course, they don't know they are lying!