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Well the other day I had to catch a taxi and the predicted 17 degrees which is cold and the taxi driver said look at the temp my car is showing and when I looked it was nine degrees.
We do have weird weather here. It could be say 10 deg one day and the very next day 22 deg. Warmer weather predicted tomorrow so I am happy. Wooh hoo
We do have weird weather here. It could be say 10 deg one day and the very next day 22 deg. Warmer weather predicted tomorrow so I am happy. Wooh hoo
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Hello, I would be interested in hearing the argument for Jesus as the prophesised Christ/ Messiah in the Old Testament.
The prophesy that fits his life best and I believe could have actually been him is Isaiah 53, the lamb of God. However if we read closely, we will see that in Isaiah 53:12, it says that the he will only be aloted a portion with the great and divide the spoil with the strong. This is not the equity that the Messiaiah/Christ will receive. Messiaiah will receive equity of command over the entire world. As most of this prophesy fits the life of Jesus of Nazareth. From being despised, not opening his mouth in defence to his accousers, a grave with the rich, through perversion of justice he was taken away etc.
To me, the only part that does not fit the claims of the New Testament, is the equity received by this individual. Isaiah 53:12 is clearly not the equity which will be alotted to Messiaiah. Therefore the lamb of God being Jesus as the best candidate, could not be Messaiah or Christ. To make it simple, Lamb of God (Isaiah 53) cannot be Messaiah/Christ.
Here is list of other Messaianic prophesies and prophecies that the New Testement claim Jesus fulfilled which do not match the life of Jesus.
1 Chronicals 17
Isaiah 7:13
Psalm 132
Isaiah 9:3-7
Psalm 118 5-24
Isaiah 28
Psalm 22
Psalm 34
As the disiples and apostles knew, the fulfilment of the old Testement prophecies were fundemental to their claim of Jesus as the Messaiah.
Please feel free to include these passages listed in the New Testement.
The prophesy that fits his life best and I believe could have actually been him is Isaiah 53, the lamb of God. However if we read closely, we will see that in Isaiah 53:12, it says that the he will only be aloted a portion with the great and divide the spoil with the strong. This is not the equity that the Messiaiah/Christ will receive. Messiaiah will receive equity of command over the entire world. As most of this prophesy fits the life of Jesus of Nazareth. From being despised, not opening his mouth in defence to his accousers, a grave with the rich, through perversion of justice he was taken away etc.
To me, the only part that does not fit the claims of the New Testament, is the equity received by this individual. Isaiah 53:12 is clearly not the equity which will be alotted to Messiaiah. Therefore the lamb of God being Jesus as the best candidate, could not be Messaiah or Christ. To make it simple, Lamb of God (Isaiah 53) cannot be Messaiah/Christ.
Here is list of other Messaianic prophesies and prophecies that the New Testement claim Jesus fulfilled which do not match the life of Jesus.
1 Chronicals 17
Isaiah 7:13
Psalm 132
Isaiah 9:3-7
Psalm 118 5-24
Isaiah 28
Psalm 22
Psalm 34
As the disiples and apostles knew, the fulfilment of the old Testement prophecies were fundemental to their claim of Jesus as the Messaiah.
Please feel free to include these passages listed in the New Testement.
Jon 23:
I Think you would be best served to take your Post and make it a NEW THREAD on the BDF. This Thread is not used for debates about Theology or other subjects causing disagreements among the Church. Just saying this because you will probably not get anyone joining in any discussion/debate here on SpeakYourMind. So, don't be discouraged if you don't. Just make your comment a new Thread......
It will take some time to appear as a new Thread since one of the Admins have to approve it before it being posted, so don't worry about not seeing it immediately.
Welcome to CC.
I Think you would be best served to take your Post and make it a NEW THREAD on the BDF. This Thread is not used for debates about Theology or other subjects causing disagreements among the Church. Just saying this because you will probably not get anyone joining in any discussion/debate here on SpeakYourMind. So, don't be discouraged if you don't. Just make your comment a new Thread......
It will take some time to appear as a new Thread since one of the Admins have to approve it before it being posted, so don't worry about not seeing it immediately.
Welcome to CC.
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Lol I agree with this, I'm fed up with making my own coffee 
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