Pardon, so far I know was then a gap from around 1800 years that people teach this.
And only if you expierience the baptism with the Holy Spirit according pentecostal/ charismatic doctrine someone is able to speak in tongues.
In the bible I cant find it taught that there is a quality different between different types of prayer. Wether Useing the own language ore praying in thoughts ore speaking in tongues.
Today it seems that only speaking
Tja, acts was not written in 1900 thats correct. But this teaching is taught since 1900. So, I could understand if someone says, I have got the gift of speaking in tongues like any other gift which is given from the Holy Spirit. But you teach that an believer who has already the Holy Spirit is getting an separate baptising with the Holy Spirit and the Sign of this is speaking in tongues.
You are makeing believe that speaking in tongues is the ultimative Spiritual gift.
Without this gift an believer is not complete.
This teaching I dont find in the bible. Also that the speaking in tongues is not to get without the baptising with the Holy Spirit.
Your acts events in 2, 8, 10 and nineteen are no proof that all who getting the Holy Spirit, also getting the gift of speaking in tongues. This is nowhere taught in this way to the believers of the NT.
So speaking in tongues has his place in the history in the time where the scripture was not complete. And it may be that God is uesing today this gift in Mission ministry, like healing and other miracles. But not as it was in former Times.
Maby because of the misuesing and overvaluting of this gift.
There are no gaps, because there was no time The Spirit of God was not Working.
Again God doesn't need man to validate HIS work or word many do not believe it today Yet it is true. Just because you can't find it taught in the Bible, i'm sorry you have not seen Paul teaching in the Book of Acts. Where this teaching is Found. So just because your assumption is a person taught in the 1900's about the gifts of the Holy Spirit means many overlooked the Word OF God where it is taught. You do not know the word of God contextually.
All Believers have the Holy Spirit in them AS John 14 says Jesus speaking. Secondly, Jesus said the Baptism which is the clothing in or with is what we see in the Old Testament as the Spirit of God coming upon one to empower them. read all the bible Ok The Spirit of God came upon Moses, Joshua , Saul, David , the Judges , the Prophets Book after Book records it , And in the New Testament as a Normative and a Promise from the Lord Himself to all of us as Acts 2 says .
Jesus said you shall receive POWER after the Holy Spirit has
come upon you Acts 1:8 Jesus did not say you will have power once The Holy Spirit is IN you.
Again you lack of Church History is telling. There are gaps with man not with God . The evidence is there IF you are open to it.
No-one has said that a Believer doesn't have the Holy Spirit. That is a false narrative you like to use. You have been shown the history in other threads which led to you being prideful and foolish in later comments which if you like we can go back and over look them.
You need to read the book of Acts again. Those who were empower all spoke with tongues or prophesied. You are assuming, not me You are ripping pages out of the Bible not me.
You are the one who said such things like
"speaking in tongues has his place in the history in the time where the scripture was not complete."
"it may be that God is uesing today this gift in Mission ministry, like healing and other miracles. But not as it was in former Times."
What arrogance, hypocrisy. It may be? You know all that God does or should I say you are the sole validator of God doing miracles, healings, or using one in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit that are taught in 1 Corinthians chapter 12 through 14? Just because you have not seen it does not mean God is not working or doing it. Jesus sid Bless is he who believe and does not see. If I never saw one in my life I would believe God for one if person asked to pray with them.
I have heard many like you say:
" God can but HE has not, because I have not seen HIM do it".
What an immature mind-set. You come to attack those who you think are less knowledgeable than you.
You think the KJV is that which is perfect has come because it is in English ? was not the writing of the first 5 books God Himself gave to Moses Perfect? OR dif God have to wake for your approval 3000 years later? The book of psalms ? the major and minor prophet writings? all imperfect by your standard. You bas this on what?
I will tell you
1corinthians 13:8-10
8 Love never ends.
As for prophecies, they will pass away;
as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10
but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.
every other Book in the Bible both old and New are done away with because of three verses found here in 1cor 13.
I looked in the Greek and the Hebrew. nothing says that the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are done away with because of the Bible being completed. That is lie and you guys need to be called on it more. That is just as false as saying one has to speak in tongues to be saved. You are adding to the word of God.
