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[Unitas]

Jesus (which is not just a name, but the Name above all names), defines Himself as Truth, and the only way to the Father (God). The Truth you are seeking is found in Him. Our faith is personal, and placed in the Person of Jesus Christ. It reaches into every aspect of our lives and transforms us from the inside out, sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. We are exhorted to steep ourselves in His revealed written Word, to read it and meditate upon it daily, and seek after Him and His ways continually. Religion as a word can be understood or defined multiple ways (some even call atheism a religion ). Generally speaking, it is seen as a means of behaving in ways that seek to please God as we understand Him. Much of what is seen as organized religion has rituals and rites and pomp and ceremony attached to it. Is this wrong? It depends. Do they teach Biblical truths? Do they place the traditions of man above the revealed Written Word of God? Is the focus of the gathering of the corporate body for the purpose of praising and worshiping God, and studying His revealed written Word together, to encourage one another, to make ourselves available to serve others, that we may uphold in other through our trials and tribulations in life, and share our joys and triumphs in Him?

When saying, I don't see my belief as a religion, I base it on an understanding of religion as a structured system that several people follow. But if religion is merely understood as the belief in God, then it is a religion.

From there it is possible to discuss, what understanding of God makes sense, and thereby what to follow. And here we see it differently

 

[Magenta]

That is correct. I don't see any problem in asking if I understand a message correct.

Perhaps putting the spin on it that you did was the problem. I did demonstrate how the question could have been read without casting the other person in the role of a mass murderer.

 

[Magenta]

When saying, I don't see my belief as a religion, I base it on an understanding of religion as a structured system that several people follow. But if religion is merely understood as the belief in God, then it is a religion.

From there it is possible to discuss, what understanding of God makes sense, and thereby what to follow. And here we see it differently

Your beliefs look quite Buddhist, which is in many ways as structured as any religion, even though Buddhism does not even necessarily embrace a belief in God. If one truly wants to know God, shouldn't they look at what God says about Himself? The problem here is that the natural man does not accept the things of God. The un-regenerated want to define God according to their terms, instead of His.

 

[Unitas]

I understand that this isn't the point of thread. I guess I am just trying to get a more clear grasp on your ideals so that we can get to the root of why you were banned. So, I am assuming that what you mean is that...you do not believe in


Hello Unitas. Hope you have been having a blessed day.

So, I have read all of the responses on the thread. I understand that this thread is not dedicated to conversation about your personal beliefs, moreso about why you got banned and what the rules are. I am going to stick with what I said in my original post and take a direct approach in answering your question: this is a Christian forum, which means that because you are not identifiably a Christ follower, you will undoubtedly meet consistent opposition at times. If you make a statement that is inherently blasphemous or heretical, you will most likely be banned. If you ask questions, express curiosity, or hold a different opinion, you should not get banned; HOWEVER, it is just hard to say how things will play out because there are different people working here on the forum.

This is a forum/chat that primarily consists of Christians, so just understand that as someone who isn't pme, this may not be an ideal environment for your mindset of belief. Would I ban you? No, personally, I would not. I am of the opinion that one should not be turned away just because they are not of the same faith understanding. Please stick around. I would love to converse with you about Jesus, Christianity and share with you the beauty of the Gospel. As Christians, we have been ordained by God to fulfill and complete His mission of sharing His Message with others. I cannot convince you, I cannot change your heart, I cannot change your mind; any believer who thinks they can is fooling themselves lol. All we can do is plant seeds and pray. I am not trying to veer off the path of the thread; my point in saying this to you is to help you see that IF you choose to remain, understand that people will try to plant seeds, and I hope you approach those conversations with an open heart and mind.

If I were you, I would just tread carefully - ONLY because it is proven to you now that there are people who will ban you; just know that doesn't represent the attitude of everyone here. I would suggest formulating your responses as questions - people on here [should] be willing to answer and help you see what being a follower of Jesus truly means. We are the same here in retrospect; yes, I am a Christ-follower, and you are not, BUT we are both sinners in nature in need of a Savior for everlasting salvation. I want to take every opportunity I can to show someone the beauty of God, and I will be praying for you, Unitas!

Galations 5:1 - "For freedom of Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not again submit to a yoke of slavery."

Hi

A agree with your view. It is important to respect that it's a Christian forum and most people are here to see the path to salvation/peace from a Christian perspective.

The problem however is, that the rules are not based on this. The rules only focus on behavior, not about opinion. But even though rules do not express this, I will still try to be respectful for the belief others want to be inspired by.

You write about changing others. And I agree about, that we can't change others - at least in their direction towards peace. We can only be examples for them to follow. I will try to focus on being curious and only express my opinion if asked about it. Hopefully this will bring more peace in my life and people I meet.

 

[Unitas]

Perhaps putting the spin on it that you did was the problem. I did demonstrate how the question could have been read without casting the other person in the role of a mass murderer.

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The person could still have answered the question, or asked me why I asked it, instead of me being banned. I see this a constructive communication.

And still, I don't see it as spin. I didn't try to manipulate. I was shocked but tried to ask with an open heart.

 

[Magenta]

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The person could still have answered the question, or asked me why I asked it, instead of me being banned. I see this a constructive communication.

Yet it was not up to that one person, and they may not even have been involved in your chat ban.

 

[Unitas]

Hello, Unitas, welcome to CC

I would like to answer some of your questions

You earlier asked about cleanliness in terms of how one can be clean if all are sinners? The answer is not based in our own righteousness, but that of Christ's. We are washed/cleansed in the shed righteous blood of the spotless Lamb of God even as we may still stumble and fall into error and sin.

To give up one's desires has to do with forsaking the flesh which is opposed to God, and surrendering to the Spirit of Truth, Who is Himself a person known as Jesus. Some call Him Yahweh or Jehovah, etc. He has many names and titles, which is kind of beside the point. The point is to realize there is One True God and He has given us His Living Word that we may know Him in personal and profound ways. In other words, one surrenders to Him Who is defined as Truth and the only way to God. To argue against this will get you banned even if you are simply seeking to have others understand your views, since your views oppose Christian beliefs. It may be helpful to you o accept that God is both immanent (present and personal) and transcendent (separate, holy). He has promised to make Himself known to those who diligently and sincerely seek Him. I believe you are doing that, even if you are still engaging in defining God in ways that are acceptable to you as opposed to defining yourself in ways that are acceptable to God.

The river you speak of is life and is found only in the Person of Jesus Christ,
Who is the Light and Life of men. He alone holds the keys to life and death.

Thank you for your answers to the questions

As you know, I see life from a different perspective, and would from this give different answers.

What is important for me isn't who of us have the right perspective, but rather if we are moving towards more peace in life.

 

[Unitas]

Yet it was not up to that one person, and they may not even have been involved in your chat ban.

The people who banned me, could have used constructive communication. Right know I still don't know what the problem is. Maybe they got offended by my question. Then they could have asked about, why I asked it. My purpose wasn't to offend them.

 

[Magenta]

Thank you for your answers to the questions

As you know, I see life from a different perspective, and would from this give different answers.

What is important for me isn't who of us have the right perspective, but rather if we are moving towards more peace in life.

Know Jesus = know peace. No Jesus = no peace You are welcome

Do you understand how any righteousness we have is not our own?

 

[Unitas]

Know Jesus = know peace. No Jesus = no peace You are welcome

Do you understand how any righteousness we have is not our own?

From my understanding of life, we are supposed to follow God's law and find peace in this.

 

[Reformyourself]

Twice I've been banned on Christian Chat. Twice after asking questions.

First time I responded to a person which message I wanted to understand correct. The person wrote something about that if he had attended protesters violent behavior they wouldnt' be alive. I asked the person if I understood it correct, that he would like to kill protesters. Then I was banned.

The second time I asked about if I'm allowed to be on the Christian Chat even though I'm not a believer of God as personal and separated from us. People started writing that I was trolling, and I got banned again.

I would like to know, what the rules are on the chat. Am I not allowed to use the chat without being Christian? The rules of the chat doesn't mention anything about this. Also the rules doesn't say anything about not being allowed to ask specific questions. As I understand the rules, we are not allowed to purposefully offend others. And I don't understand how the two situations that has lead to a ban have been offending others.

People don't have to like me. They can have different reasons for not liking me. But does a personal opinion about me, mean I can't use the chat as long as I'm not purposefully offending others? Nobody has to listen to my opinions, but should a Christian ban a person on an public chat for having a different view of life and asking questions?

This doesn't make any sense for me. This isn't the principles I follow. And I don't understand, how it can be Christian principles.

Become a pagan, then your free to post anything you want 🧙‍♀️ (no, but seriously, don’t)

 

[Unitas]

Become a pagan, then your free to post anything you want 🧙‍♀️ (no, but seriously, don’t)

Well, maybe I could end all my messages here by writing "this is the opinion of a pagan"

 

[Reformyourself]

Thank you

Does this mean, that some are clean?

Great question!!! 😊

 

[Reformyourself]

Well, maybe I could end all my messages here by writing "this is the opinion of a pagan"

No, you have to ‘pretend’ your a Christian (but secretly pagan) 🤪

 

[Reformyourself]

Great question!!! 😊

It like this quote.....
Luke 18:9-14
Then Jesus told this story to some who had great confidence in their own righteousness and scorned everyone else: “Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a despised tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer ‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’

“But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

 

[Unitas]

No, you have to ‘pretend’ your a Christian (but secretly pagan) 🤪

"this is the opinion of an undercover pagan .. shh"

 

[Reformyourself]

"this is the opinion of an undercover pagan .. shh"

🤫

 

[Reformyourself]

🤫

And you have to ‘follow’ fake Christian rock bands and old ‘inklings’ like jr Tolkien & cs lewis 🤫

 

[Subhumanoidal]

Did not read the 90 comments.......no real need to........ You should have posed this question to the Admins, and not as a "discussion" Thread............

IF you have been banned twice, how, exactly, are you here yet again?

One definition of trolling forums is a person who is banned and keeps returning with different Screen name to post comments designed to cause distension/arguments among the members......

Being banned in the chats, as was explained, is not the same as being banned in the forums.
In chats it takes three users to agree to ban someone and this can easily be misused and abused. There have been Numerous complaints about the banning practice in the chats.
Also I am not sure that user bans in chats are permanent when done by three users.
Also it's not likely a new user would know how to go to admins, or know who they are.
But as I already encouraged them to do as one of the first people to respond, I already suggested they message OnceFallen.

 

[Reformyourself]

And you have to ‘follow’ fake Christian rock bands and old ‘inklings’ like jr Tolkien & cs lewis 🤫

When they ban us, shall we set up our own club/forum? 😁