"Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

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Most people hear the name "Antichrist" and immediately associate it with someone or something that will set itself up in diametric opposition to Jesus...one who will resist every single aspect of Him and that for which He stands...and this association is 100% accurate.

Unfortunately, this limited view of the Greek word "Anti-Christos" has caused many to mis-identify the Antichrist altogether - a Supercomputer in Brussels, Prince Charles...even humorous speculation about David Hasselhoff. Only a broader view of the word holds the key to understanding:

"Anti-" means "for, in place of, instead of, in behalf of" and "Christos" of course means "Christ". In all of history, there is only one system that has proudly boasted:
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17​

The Papacy, with the Popes at its head, since 538 A.D. has claimed to this very hour to stand in Christ's place as Mediator, Source of Forgiveness and Salvation, Judge and Executioner, "King of Heaven, of Earth, and of Purgatory", etc. (I'll grant them Purgatory, since it doesn't exist). If you're looking for Antichrist, the narrow view of Jesuit nonsense crumbles under the weight of evidence for the voracity of Protestant Historicism. Christians would do well to broaden their understanding of church history, instead of narrowly shutting out anything that doesn't line up with the sensationalist nonsense of Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism that dominates the Christian landscape today. May God grant us eyes to see, Amen.
 
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Most people hear the name "Antichrist" and immediately associate it with someone or something that will set itself up in diametric opposition to Jesus...one who will resist every single aspect of Him and that for which He stands...and this association is 100% accurate.

Unfortunately, this limited view of the Greek word "Anti-Christos" has caused many to mis-identify the Antichrist altogether - a Supercomputer in Brussels, Prince Charles...even humorous speculation about David Hasselhoff. Only a broader view of the word holds the key to understanding:

"Anti-" means "for, in place of, instead of, in behalf of" and "Christos" of course means "Christ". In all of history, there is only one system that has proudly boasted:
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17​

The Papacy, with the Popes at its head, since 538 A.D. has claimed to this very hour to stand in Christ's place as Mediator, Source of Forgiveness and Salvation, Judge and Executioner, "King of Heaven, of Earth, and of Purgatory", etc. (I'll grant them Purgatory, since it doesn't exist). If you're looking for Antichrist, the narrow view of Jesuit nonsense crumbles under the weight of evidence for the voracity of Protestant Historicism. Christians would do well to broaden their understanding of church history, instead of narrowly shutting out anything that doesn't line up with the sensationalist nonsense of Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism that dominates the Christian landscape today. May God grant us eyes to see, Amen.
By definition Anti, means, opposed to, against...
 

tanakh

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Are there really people who believe Prince Charles is the Anti Christ? I nearly laughed my socks off reading this. For me it comes second only to the belief that our Royal Family are really Alien Lizards. The Conspiracy Forum has great entertainment value:LOL:
 

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Are there really people who believe Prince Charles is the Anti Christ? I nearly laughed my socks off reading this. For me it comes second only to the belief that our Royal Family are really Alien Lizards. The Conspiracy Forum has great entertainment value:LOL:
Why do you think Prince Charles being the anti Christ is funny? I have a different belief in what the anti Christ is but do you have a reason why you think it's funny or are you just condescending?
 

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Most people hear the name "Antichrist" and immediately associate it with someone or something that will set itself up in diametric opposition to Jesus...one who will resist every single aspect of Him and that for which He stands...and this association is 100% accurate.

Unfortunately, this limited view of the Greek word "Anti-Christos" has caused many to mis-identify the Antichrist altogether - a Supercomputer in Brussels, Prince Charles...even humorous speculation about David Hasselhoff. Only a broader view of the word holds the key to understanding:

"Anti-" means "for, in place of, instead of, in behalf of" and "Christos" of course means "Christ". In all of history, there is only one system that has proudly boasted:
This is interesting. So many people calling themselves Christians and not believing the word of God. They are replacing true Christianity it seems to me. Definitely gave me something to think about. I just seen a post on facebook from someone and I posted scripture to explain that what he was saying about God was not Biblical. I see "ANTI" scriptural posts all the time on facebook and all the 'Christians' liking them. That misunderstanding of God can be the beginning of the anti Christ.​
 

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Unfortunately, this limited view of the Greek word "Anti-Christos" has caused many to mis-identify the Antichrist altogether
The Antichrist is also called "the Beast", "the Man of Sin", "the Son of Perdition", "the Little Horn" (and several other titles). Therefore there is no mistaking the Antichrist as being an individual. He -- an individual -- sits in the future temple at Jerusalem claiming to be God. Therefore substituting the pope or the papacy for the MIRACLE WORKING Jewish Antichrist is sheer folly.

Orthodox Jews are presently anticipating the coming of their "true Messiah". Since they have rejected Christ as their true Messiah, they will be welcoming a false Jewish Messiah, coming in his own name. He will dazzle the world with His miracles, and the whole world will worship him (Revelation 13).
 
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Are there really people who believe Prince Charles is the Anti Christ? I nearly laughed my socks off reading this. For me it comes second only to the belief that our Royal Family are really Alien Lizards. The Conspiracy Forum has great entertainment value:LOL:
LOL!!! I absolutely come here for the shock value...
 
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Why do you think Prince Charles being the anti Christ is funny? I have a different belief in what the anti Christ is but do you have a reason why you think it's funny or are you just condescending?
No. Now that is truly laughable!!!
 

Ahwatukee

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Most people hear the name "Antichrist" and immediately associate it with someone or something that will set itself up in diametric opposition to Jesus...one who will resist every single aspect of Him and that for which He stands...and this association is 100% accurate.

Unfortunately, this limited view of the Greek word "Anti-Christos" has caused many to mis-identify the Antichrist altogether - a Supercomputer in Brussels, Prince Charles...even humorous speculation about David Hasselhoff. Only a broader view of the word holds the key to understanding:

"Anti-" means "for, in place of, instead of, in behalf of" and "Christos" of course means "Christ". In all of history, there is only one system that has proudly boasted:
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17​

The Papacy, with the Popes at its head, since 538 A.D. has claimed to this very hour to stand in Christ's place as Mediator, Source of Forgiveness and Salvation, Judge and Executioner, "King of Heaven, of Earth, and of Purgatory", etc. (I'll grant them Purgatory, since it doesn't exist). If you're looking for Antichrist, the narrow view of Jesuit nonsense crumbles under the weight of evidence for the voracity of Protestant Historicism. Christians would do well to broaden their understanding of church history, instead of narrowly shutting out anything that doesn't line up with the sensationalist nonsense of Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism that dominates the Christian landscape today. May God grant us eyes to see, Amen.
The identity of the antichrist has no bearing on the timing of the gathering of the church. It is after the gathering of the church that the first seal will be opened which is represented by that rider on the white horse, the antichrist.

Regarding the pope being the antichrist, you are close, but I lean towards one of the future popes as playing the part of the second beast who is the false prophet. The pope of that time will be the one who will perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast which is the anitchrist and will also be the head of that one world religious system. The purpose of the miralces, signs and wonders will be to deceive the inhabitants of the earth and to support the antichrist who will be proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God.
 

Ahwatukee

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Why do you think Prince Charles being the anti Christ is funny? I have a different belief in what the anti Christ is but do you have a reason why you think it's funny or are you just condescending?
Hello Kim111!

You have to ask yourself the question, does Prince Charles fit the description of being the antichirst? Regarding this Has he:

* Established a seven year covenant with Israel?

* Caused the sacrifices and offerings to cease

* Set up an abomination in the holy place causing the desolation of Jerusalem and Judea

* Made war against and conquered the saints

* Been given authority over every tribe and people and language and nation.

* Has all who dwell on the earth worshipped him

These are some of the details regarding the coming antichrist of which Prince Charles fails in fulfillment of.

I don't believe that the church will even see the antichrist, since he is symbolically represented by the opening of the first seal, that rider on the white horse, which initiates God's wrath.
 

Kim111

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Hello Kim111!


These are some of the details regarding the coming antichrist of which Prince Charles fails in fulfillment of.

I don't believe that the church will even see the antichrist, since he is symbolically represented by the opening of the first seal, that rider on the white horse, which initiates God's wrath.
Yes, just wondering why or why not you believe that. I do not believe people with worship Prince Charles. It has to be someone or something that people will worship. thank you for your reply.
 

Kim111

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No. Now that is truly laughable!!!
What is truly laughable? Conversation? Trying to understand other's ideas? I came on this site a couple years ago and found a lot of the same. no one discussing, just people believing they know better than everyone else instead of educating them. Wondering if things haven't gotten better. Trying to find a Christian chat where people are polite.
 
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The identity of the antichrist has no bearing on the timing of the gathering of the church. It is after the gathering of the church that the first seal will be opened which is represented by that rider on the white horse, the antichrist.

Regarding the pope being the antichrist, you are close, but I lean towards one of the future popes as playing the part of the second beast who is the false prophet. The pope of that time will be the one who will perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast which is the anitchrist and will also be the head of that one world religious system. The purpose of the miralces, signs and wonders will be to deceive the inhabitants of the earth and to support the antichrist who will be proclaiming himself to be God or anything that is called God.
Are there two popes? one of the Catholic the church and the one in which you are speaking of? Because our pope is about nothing but love and mercy and pray's for Every soul on Earth! If you are not about this, you are not about anything that Christ taught or represents...
 
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What is truly laughable? Conversation? Trying to understand other's ideas? I came on this site a couple years ago and found a lot of the same. no one discussing, just people believing they know better than everyone else instead of educating them. Wondering if things haven't gotten better. Trying to find a Christian chat where people are polite.
Sorry Kim. You do know that there are several different threads here? You happen to be in the " battle room" Try Christian singles, or the family chat. there are several people knowledgeable people in here. You may not like what they have to say but they speak fact. Sit in , you might learn something. I know I did..
 

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Why do you think Prince Charles being the anti Christ is funny? I have a different belief in what the anti Christ is but do you have a reason why you think it's funny or are you just condescending?
Why do you think Prince Charles being the anti Christ is funny? I have a different belief in what the anti Christ is but do you have a reason why you think it's funny or are you just condescending?

Where do I start. Firstly I am British and have grown up with the Royal Family. Prince Charles is 71 and second in line to the throne. The reason I believe he is not the Anti Christ is because he has not the political clout to be him. He also has very little charisma. His age in my opinion is against him and some people here believe he shouldnt become King and his Son William should be next in line instead. There is still some public resentment concerning his events surrounding the separation and death of Diana and his
relationship with Camila now the Duchess of Wales. Charles spends a lot of time talking about the environment. A standard joke
here is that he talks to his plants. He is the founder and head of the Prince of Wales trust that supports young people in a variety
of ways. In recent years he has taken over some of the Queens duties as she is now age 94 and has replaced Victoria in being Britains
longest reigning Monarch.
 
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Where do I start. Firstly I am British and have grown up with the Royal Family. Prince Charles is 71 and second in line to the throne. The reason I believe he is not the Anti Christ is because he has not the political clout to be him. He also has very little charisma. His age in my opinion is against him and some people here believe he shouldnt become King and his Son William should be next in line instead. There is still some public resentment concerning his events surrounding the separation and death of Diana and his
relationship with Camila now the Duchess of Wales. Charles spends a lot of time talking about the environment. A standard joke
here is that he talks to his plants. He is the founder and head of the Prince of Wales trust that supports young people in a variety
of ways. In recent years he has taken over some of the Queens duties as she is now age 94 and has replaced Victoria in being Britains
longest reigning Monarch.
And how do you feel about that?
 

tanakh

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Where do I start. Firstly I am British and have grown up with the Royal Family. Prince Charles is 71 and second in line to the throne. The reason I believe he is not the Anti Christ is because he has not the political clout to be him. He also has very little charisma. His age in my opinion is against him and some people here believe he shouldnt become King and his Son William should be next in line instead. There is still some public resentment concerning his events surrounding the separation and death of Diana and his
relationship with Camila now the Duchess of Wales. Charles spends a lot of time talking about the environment. A standard joke
here is that he talks to his plants. He is the founder and head of the Prince of Wales trust that supports young people in a variety
of ways. In recent years he has taken over some of the Queens duties as she is now age 94 and has replaced Victoria in being Britains
longest reigning Monarch.
And how do you feel about that?
I think he should have his turn. I dont think a Queen Camila would go down very well with the public though. The Queen could live as long as her Mother which would make him about 80 then so his reign could be quite short.
 

Nehemiah6

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The reason I believe he is not the Anti Christ is because he has not the political clout to be him.
Only a fool would suggest that Charles is the Antichrist. By the same token is he totally unfit to be the British monarch. In fact, given the shenanigans of the Royals, the whole concept of the British monarchy is outdated.
 

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... the Queens duties as she is now age 94 and has replaced Victoria in being Britains
longest reigning Monarch.
The queen would have to reign until the age of 98 to top King Louis XIV's reign :) Yes, he was French but his is the longest European monarchical reign :) (As opposed to just British reign ;))
 

Ahwatukee

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Are there two popes? one of the Catholic the church and the one in which you are speaking of? Because our pope is about nothing but love and mercy and pray's for Every soul on Earth! If you are not about this, you are not about anything that Christ taught or represents...
Those are the two horns like a lamb that you see. But his real agenda will be that of a dragon. The teachings of the Roman Catholic Church (RCC), is that the office of the pope has authority over all people or should have. Prior to 1798 the popes ruled over kings and their armies under the threat of excommunication. This authority is still valid according to their dogma. The only problem is, they currently have no power to enforce that desired authority. You ever hear of the inquisitions? Well, the popes and the RCC were the force behind all of them. They confiscated peoples property, threw them in prison, tortured them and also burned them. And this all because they would not bow to the pope and submit to Roman Catholicism. I would suggest that you read "Mystery Bablyon - the Woman Who Rides the beast: The Roman Catholic Church in the Last Days" by David Hunt. His book goes into much of the history of the RCC and its popes and ties her in wiith the woman of Revelation 17, that woman who rides the beast, which is that city who ruled over the kings of the earth and who sits on seven hills. She's a counterfeit church. And when that antichrist, those who are here will see the one with two horns like a lamb, yet speaks like a dragon. That book will open your eyes to the RCC, her popes and their true nature and purpose.

However, the time is coming when office of the pope and his false religious system will regain that power and more, which will be afforded by that ruler, the antichrist when he is revealed. The pope as the false prophet will be antichrist/beasts right hand man. All of those miracles, signs and wonders that he will be give power to do will be on behalf of the first beast/antichrist to give him credibility of his claim of being God. The beast receiving that fatal wound and surviving, will also be for the purpose of deceiving the inhabitants of the earth in support of his claim of being God.

So what you and everyone else is seeing is having two horns like that of a lamb, but his real agenda is that of a dragon.

I'll give you a hint: have you ever considered as to why there is an 82ft. Egyptian obelisk sitting out in front of what is supposed to be the true church? It was a pagan object of worship and could not possibly glorify God in any way. She (The woman) was dressed in purple and scarlet. These are the exact colors that Bishops and cardinals wear:

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In Rev.17, the angel told John that "the woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth." At the time that John was receiving this information, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth. In addition, the angel said, "The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits." This is referring to the woman's headquarters, which is pointing us to the city where that false religious system would be based.

I would also suggest that you take a look at what the RCC teaches, because it is not the gospel. It's supposed to look like the gospel, but it is a counterfeit.