We are all false teachers

[Pulie]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

 

[Blain]

I do want to say that we are not all false teachers, to be a false teacher one would have to constantly teach incorrectly and lack all the skills a teacher requires. We all are wrong sometimes, we all fall short and all say things we shouldn't but the thing that make a teacher is not how often they don't screw up but the effect they have on those who they teach.

Anyone who is to be a teacher must have the heart of a student, they have to be willing to learn from others just as much as others are to learn from them, a teacher helps to prepare the people they build the ones they speak to and give them insight and understanding. The Teacher equips and prepares even if they sometimes mess up or sometimes fall short. The false teacher however throws the textbook he is right no matter what and don't you dare question him about it, the false teacher doesn't equip or mentor they render and hinder they love to boast their opinions and their understanding while always seeing themselves as right they have no ability to learn from others because they only hear their own voice.

I do think we all can be guilty of this at times and so this is a good topic but I do disagree not all are false teachers

 

[Guojing]

I do want to say that we are not all false teachers, to be a false teacher one would have to constantly teach incorrectly and lack all the skills a teacher requires. We all are wrong sometimes, we all fall short and all say things we shouldn't but the thing that make a teacher is not how often they don't screw up but the effect they have on those who they teach.

Anyone who is to be a teacher must have the heart of a student, they have to be willing to learn from others just as much as others are to learn from them, a teacher helps to prepare the people they build the ones they speak to and give them insight and understanding. The Teacher equips and prepares even if they sometimes mess up or sometimes fall short. The false teacher however throws the textbook he is right no matter what and don't you dare question him about it, the false teacher doesn't equip or mentor they render and hinder they love to boast their opinions and their understanding while always seeing themselves as right they have no ability to learn from others because they only hear their own voice.

I do think we all can be guilty of this at times and so this is a good topic but I do disagree not all are false teachers

We are always the protagonist in our movies, and the ones who oppose us are the antagonists.

 

[Blain]

We are always the protagonist in our movies, and the ones who oppose us are the antagonists.

Reminds me of batman, in his eyes he is justice and the hero but he also is a rogue hero who constantly defies the police soooo yeah.

 

[Corban]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

Is a man a "False Teacher" because he is wrong in a matter? Peter refused to go to Cornelius until divine intervention prompted him -despite being taught this for over three years by our Lord Himself, the Master-Teacher. Was Apollos, who taught the wrong Baptism, praised or condemned in the Bible? In Galatians 2, many years later, Peter misrepresented the gospel and was castigated by Paul. Is Peter branded a False teacher then? Paul teaches "liberty in the spirit", but goes "bound in spirit" to Jerusalem, and this after two different accredited prophets warned him by the Holy Spirit not to go.

I propose that the disputes on this Forum might be caused by "falsehoods", but every child of God has to start somewhere, and his/her uneducated mind must hold something. The disputes have much profit for such a one. He/she might defend his/her point with vehemence (for ego's sake), but anon, they will secretly admit the truth and in five years time speak it out.

And then, we have Jehovah Who will not let untruth stand for ever. He might allow a truly false teacher, but sooner or later He will send men who are capable to give the correct teaching. False Teachers there are. They only last so long. Teachers who unwittingly teach falsehoods are plenty, but after some years they get educated. Peter the fisherman, wrote that Paul, the student of Gamaliel and later the Lord Himself, was hard to understand, but commended him. This Forum provides a platform for the false teacher to be exposed, and the teacher of false things to be genuinely corrected.

Lastly, the Bible does contain seeming anomalies. But it is constructed in a very special way. We would never write a Book like the Bible is written. But on close examination there are no contradictions - just two sides to the same coin.

 

[notuptome]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

The bible through the presence of the Holy Spirit. Scripture harmonizes with Itself but that is not always what men desire.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Grandpa]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

If you look at the big picture it all harmonizes pretty well.

There is a lot of work for a person to do in order to come to Christ. They have to think that it is their free will (Arminian) that is deciding to do all the things that are required for Salvation. They have to think that if they stop doing any of those things their Salvation is in jeopardy(NOSAS).

After they come to Christ and continue studying they find out that it was God that drew them to Christ to begin with(Calvinism). They find out that no one can take them from Christ's Hand (OSAS).


You can't find out that it wasn't your work that caused your salvation until you try to work to be saved. You can't understand being once saved always saved unless you first understood that if you stopped or fell short of the works of salvation you would lose that salvation.


So, just because someone is teaching something that contradicts what someone else is preaching doesn't (necessarily) mean that either one of them is a false teacher.

Some preaching is for those who are coming to Christ and some is for those who are already in Christ.

 

[p_rehbein]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

Personally (as you just offered a teaching of your own), I would like YOU to start by answering ALL your questions yourself............yeah, that would be just swell........

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Jeremiah 28:15-16
[15] Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The Lord hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie. [16] Therefore thus saith the Lord ; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the Lord.

This is just a sample of scripture that should put the fear of God in anyone handling the word of God deceitfully.

A false teacher is anyone who teaches contrary to the sound doctrine found in the holy scriptures.

There are many ways that they do this:

By applying temporal limitations on scripture (culture of the times).

By using private translation (going to the original languages to find an interpretation that suits them).

By making scripture void with scripture instead of harmonizing scripture together.

All these things lead to a path of error. And when the flesh no longer suffers because of a doctrine, this is a sure bet that false doctrine has creeped in.

Sound doctrine puts the flesh to suffering for Christ’s sake. Sound doctrine is the enemy of sin, the destroyer of sin.

1 Peter 4:1
[1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin

 

[gb9]

Jeremiah 28:15-16
[15] Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The Lord hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie. [16] Therefore thus saith the Lord ; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast taught rebellion against the Lord.

This is just a sample of scripture that should put the fear of God in anyone handling the word of God deceitfully.

A false teacher is anyone who teaches contrary to the sound doctrine found in the holy scriptures.

There are many ways that they do this:

By applying temporal limitations on scripture (culture of the times).

By using private translation (going to the original languages to find an interpretation that suits them).

By making scripture void with scripture instead of harmonizing scripture together.

All these things lead to a path of error. And when the flesh no longer suffers because of a doctrine, this is a sure bet that false doctrine has creeped in.

Sound doctrine puts the flesh to suffering for Christ’s sake. Sound doctrine is the enemy of sin, the destroyer of sin.

1 Peter 4:1
[1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin

well, i guess it has not put the fear of God in you, you repeat the lie that you do not sin with no hesitation...

 

[PennEd]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

A false teacher will INSIST that his word is the only possible interpretation.
A true teacher would oft cite THIS passage, and also recognize that EVERYONE is wrong about something. Or we wouldn’t have hundreds of denominations. We also can only see some things through a glass darkly.


Acts 17:11
New King James Version

11 These were more [a]fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and (A)searched the Scriptures daily to find outwhether these things were so.

 

[p_rehbein]

A false teacher will INSIST that his word is the only possible interpretation.

I am always right with my interpretations. If others should disagree with me, I simply take into account that they have yet to come to the knowledge that I am always right..........

 

[Grandpa]

Et tu, Cheste'? (r)

 

[Nehemiah6]

We are all false teachers

Then why are you even bothering? Go fishing.

 

[Blik]

I think these posts can be absolutely wonderful for helping us understand the word correctly, but only if they are used correctly. I don't think they are useful at all if we see them as preaching. I have been accused of that, and my posts and my interpretations of scripture are as a human not as a teacher. Scripture is the teacher, and if you take anyone's word as truth it leads to error. It is only a direction for a way to check scripture's truth.

There are hours upon hours of scripture study given here, it is marvelous to use as a direction for our study. But it isn't to be used as scripture.

If our interpretation is opposed it is not time for anger but a direction for where to check the word for our truth. What is harmful and damaging is using posts to judge others. Posters who use this site for that need to be put on ignore.

 

[Benadam]

Unless there is an expression of the faith recognized to be without error, then doesn't everyone teach a wee bit of error? The teacher of the Faith that is most correct.

 

[CS1]

We claim to stand for the truth and have a tendency of calling each other false teachers,so how can one identify a person contending for the truth given the many doctrines (OSAS,NOSAS,Armenian,Calvinism etc)?

Assuming you believe that your not a false teacher, what makes you different from all the others who also believe that they are not false teachers/false prophets?

Our differences have also proven the fact that scripture only harmonizes to a certain extent, how can you counteract that thought?

Please answer all my questions if you will.

Jesus. He makes all the difference. OSAS/NOSAS is doctrinal subjects that only those who are already saved debate and the unsaved person will not argue this. It is elevated by those who elites and use it to divide. They are divided on I'm saved and you are not saved while both proclaim to be saved LOL see how unedifying this is.

 

[Blik]

Jesus. He makes all the difference. OSAS/NOSAS is doctrinal subjects that only those who are already saved debate and the unsaved person will not argue this. It is elevated by those who elites and use it to divide. They are divided on I'm saved and you are not saved while both proclaim to be saved LOL see how unedifying this is.

Jesus could not make something different because Jesus was at the very beginning. Jesus is the same throughout our earth's time.

 

[CS1]

Jesus could not make something different because Jesus was at the very beginning. Jesus is the same throughout our earth's time.

The word " Jesus could not make something different". It is not Biblical. The Spirit of Christ is eternal. The point is Build around the words of Jesus not around OSAS/NOSAS.

 

[Blade]

I wonder if the only way to know is by the sweet Holy Spirit. To many are called "false" based on ones personal believe. I look for what I posted below. I don't call one false simple because some things they teach I do not believe/agree with. HAHA as if I look through what I personally believe and then look judge others? That would be unwise.

"Jesus came in the flesh. Born of the virgin Mary. Died on the cross for the worlds sin. Was buried and rose the 3rd day. Seated at the right hand of the Father.. the only way to the Father"

Its what do you do knowing some are false? Toss them under the buss so to speak? I heard a story not long ago about a preacher that fell. You know him. A story I have never heard, never seen posted. He was with people he said was not of God. Those people you know also Many even here do not agree with them. Yet.. they reached out.. spoke what he did wrong.. how it hurt the body of Christ but.. we forgive you.. we love you. They cried and cried.

Do you reach out to pull them back in? Verse comes to mind "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”

Truth? There are not many "ye which are spiritual" among us.