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eternally-gratefull

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Micaiah-imla said:
The difference friend, is that I do not steal the words of God from you by telling you that you do not comprehend them according to a theological doctrine; you dismantle the problem texts with pedantry.

Your tactic is cult-like, not mine.

You need nothing but a Bible to see what I'm telling you is true.

I need your interpretative science to comprehend yours.

No thanks!
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Yawn

when you reject 1 John 1: 8 and try to make 1 john 3 say something it never really said, then you have a real problem
 
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eternally-gratefull

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preacher4truth said:
It's hilarious what the tribe calls an attack, especially after watching them gang up on others who believe they are saved via work, just like them when they merited favor. :)
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An attack is to come in and belittle others, it does not matter who does it, it is an attack, and it happens far to often on both sides.
as my mom used to say, 2 wrongs do not make a right
 
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Fastfredy0 said:
If you could give scriptures to back up you claim that "satan doesn't know he is sinning".

Aside: I assume Satan is much, much smarter than I, yet even I know I sin. Got to think Satan has figured out whether he has sinned.
Definition of Sin: Anything going against what God commands. Thus, Satan has to know he has disobeyed God and therefore sinned. Now, like some on here, maybe Satan has his own dictionary.
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Take a look around. There are people and Bibles everywhere. Do you think most people (the unredeemed of course) actually believe that they are bad people and sinners? That's not what I see. In fact there are criminals in prisons everywhere who are not the least bit repentant. From a psychologist point of view it's called a criminal psychological profile.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Micaiah-imla said:
I see you continue to ignore the other scriptures.

So sad that OSAS has put you to sleep.

Yawn on...
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Other verses can not contradict 1 joh. 1: 8, and the verses you use do not contradict 1 John 1: 8

and your osas argument ts are getting old. Please stop they do nothing to support your case
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
An attack is to come in and belittle others, it does not matter who does it, it is an attack, and it happens far to often on both sides.
as my mom used to say, 2 wrongs do not make a right
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Telling a person what another is bound to do isn't belittling them nor is it an attack no matter how bad you want it to be. Keep sowing that discord though, it's what you do. (y)

Now, since you think it is belittling and an attack, maybe you and your tribe should report that post.

Here is the post you called belittling and an attack. I wanted to make it easy for you:

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Next she'll deny free will, or willing to believe. Something they all believe and argue.
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preacher4truth said:
It's hilarious what the tribe calls an attack, especially after watching them gang up on others who believe they are saved via work, just like them when they merited favor. :)
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Maybe you should revisit you definition of grace being unmerited favour?

Try this for starters

Gal 5:4b ye are fallen from [grace]. How can one fall from unmerited favor?


Jesus was full of grace... so He was full of unmerited favour?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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preacher4truth said:
After watching you and your tribe tear into people over and over in this thread, my proven prediction is called an attack? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

I stated what would happen next, if you think that is an attack (and it isn't) you got some serious issues.
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You know what’s funny

i hardly even talk in this thread anymore, I respond to a few people,, And the one two people this thread has been all about lately (judges and Dottie) I have on ignore. so I have not been attacking anyone, if you were really honest, you would admit this, but your can’t because for some reason it is against you to admit error
all you did was prove you have an agenda. Well keep it up. And we will see what those who have a say thinks about it
 
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@Fastfredy0

Hey man, I appreciate your stance, calling out others for their errant beliefs, seeing their flaws, naming them since they are so apparent such as rarely using Scripture. It is refreshing to see another contending for the true Gospel and standing against error, Jude 4. (y)
 
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preacher4truth said:
Telling a person what another is bound to do isn't belittling them nor is it an attack no matter how bad you want it to be. Keep sowing that discord though, it's what you do. (y)

Now, since you think it is belittling and an attack, maybe you and your tribe should report that post.

Here is the post you called belittling and an attack. I wanted to make it easy for you:
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I forgot, you think you do no wrong

i never mentioned one post. I am speaking of all your posts in general.
 
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preacher4truth said:
It's hilarious what the tribe calls an attack, especially after watching them gang up on others who believe they are saved via work, just like them when they merited favor. :)
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Let's try another...

Eph 2:8 For by grace[unmerited favor] are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:8 For by grace[God's power] are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Did Calvin coin that phrase ...if he did it surely is a travesty.
 
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preacher4truth said:
Nailed. I don't "have" him on ignore, I just read the nonsense and choose not to respond. He will own up to nothing. When refuted, he weasles around it.
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Agreed, though I think he is a good Christian who loves God.

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And the irony? This is the "not by works" thread.
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Yeah, well we both GET IT. Of course, the opposition think we're nuts. Logic and ample scripture on our side ...
Aside: Could I have deceived myself so badly and be wrong. I have 1,000s of examples where I think others have done this. My logic and analysis of greater thinkers than I makes sense to me. LOL I know someone is wrong. I know a lot of people a lot smarter than I are wrong; some correct. I sure hope God gives bonus points for trying. Hope we don't get an "D-" grade for trying at the final judgment. REALLY hope we get a better mark the of opposition. LOL ;)

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It always turns into what they did as soon as you show them it is all God, even believing is his work, but they won't have it. You nailed it again, good list!
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List goes a lot longer, but thx. I enjoy your posts. (Aside: I have a bias as I agree with you it seems and that may be reason for the enjoyment. Seriously, you are coherent and easily understood which has to put you in the top 10% on here even if you (we) are wrong. ;)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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preacher4truth said:
@Fastfredy0

Hey man, I appreciate your stance, calling out others for their errant beliefs, seeing their flaws, naming them since they are so apparent such as rarely using Scripture. It is refreshing to see another contending for the true Gospel and standing against error, Jude 4. (y)
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Well of course you do, he agrees with you

yet like you I have asked him a few questions and crickets

yep,
 
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Fastfredy0 said:
List goes a lot longer, but thx. I enjoy your posts. (Aside: I have a bias as I agree with you it seems and that may be reason for the enjoyment. Seriously, you are coherent and easily understood which has to put you in the top 10% on here even if you (we) are wrong. ;)
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it’s easy when they agree with you

just saying, I think this is the same for all beliefs, just being honest
 
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Fastfredy0 said:
Agreed, though I think he is a good Christian who loves God.


Yeah, well we both GET IT. Of course, the opposition think we're nuts. Logic and ample scripture on our side ...
Aside: Could I have deceived myself so badly and be wrong. I have 1,000s of examples where I think others have done this. My logic and analysis of greater thinkers than I makes sense to me. LOL I know someone is wrong. I know a lot of people a lot smarter than I are wrong; some correct. I sure hope God gives bonus points for trying. Hope we don't get an "D-" grade for trying at the final judgment. REALLY hope we get a better mark the of opposition. LOL ;)


List goes a lot longer, but thx. I enjoy your posts. (Aside: I have a bias as I agree with you it seems and that may be reason for the enjoyment. Seriously, you are coherent and easily understood which has to put you in the top 10% on here even if you (we) are wrong. ;)
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For the record, I don't doubt he's a believer who loves God either. That being said I don't get that same reciprocation, and have been called a worker for salvation, believe I'm saved by self-righteousness &c by this tribe. No, I don't feel the love.

Oh, and I didn't report or complain about the belittling attacking posts.

Thanks for the kind words, I do attempt to put easily understood post out there with Scripture. God took my blinders off some 12 years ago. Soli Deo Gloria!
 
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preacher4truth said:
It's hilarious what the tribe calls an attack, especially after watching them gang up on others who believe they are saved via work, just like them when they merited favor. :)
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Oh and what was that today about @Lightskin... was that your love towards him?

And do tell about twisting his words... .. having a beer with friends makes someone a drunk?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I forgot, you think you do no wrong

i never mentioned one post. I am speaking of all your posts in general.
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Still sowing discord, belittling, attacking, accusing?

Yes, of course!

Well, if what you say is true (but of course it isn't true) then it's even easier, just report all my posts, you know, "in general." :)
 
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