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jackrosie

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DorothyMae said:
God chooses who he elects..we don’t choose him....to me that is such an honour to be chosen by God.

When I was saved....I felt honoured and more important than the Queen....seriously I did.
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Have you no concern for all those doomed to hell with no Chance under your theology? (Not that it is true, but I do not see how anyone with a heart can be thrilled to be choosen for no reason while believing some are just not chosen for no reason but doomed to hell.)[/QUOTE]



Another assumption......I am not arguing with you....believe what you like.

God knows my heart and that is all I need to know.

I don’t have to justify anything to you....have a good day.
 
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Still would really like to know what is so special about some that he chooses to give them faith, yet others he chooses not too.

We know God is a God of judgement and justice....I can't see either quality in this type of scenario.
 
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1ofthem said:
I pray to God that he will open up your understanding. God doesn't make a group of kings and queens and a group of trash. He sent his Son to die for all so that any who will believe in him will not perish and all that accept him becomes a part of his royal family.

What do you feel makes you so special that he chose to make you a queen and gave you no choice to resist, but chose to make Sally down the street a piece of trash to burn and gave her no chance? Did you possess some type of special quality that he just had to have you? God doesn't need me or you....We need him and that is why he sent his Son to die for this lost world so that any who will believe upon him will be saved...scripture is clear on this....He would have all men come to repentance, and the free gift has come upon all, but not all will accept....
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Again I’m not arguing with you how God Saved.

I suggest you take it up with him....I have my belief...which doesn’t match with yours....have a nice day.
 
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DorothyMae said:
"The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked."

Sounds like you keep wanting to justify yourself to me.
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Sounds like you accusing me of having a deceitful heart...now please Leave Me Alone!....I have no gripe with you.

I don’t have to justify anything to you.
 
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1ofthem said:
Still would really like to know what is so special about some that he chooses to give them faith, yet others he chooses not too.

We know God is a God of judgement and justice....I can't see either quality in this type of scenario.
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It doesn't. There is no just answer to this view but they focus on how great they feel being a part of the Special Chosen Group. One has to blind oneself to the obvious injustice in favor of the thrill of being selected.
 
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jackrosie said:
Again I’m not arguing with you how God Saved.

I suggest you take it up with him....I have my belief...which doesn’t match with yours....have a nice day.
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I guess that means you have no answer or scriptural proof for any of this....That's cool, but I would suggest you study the scripture and quit being tossed to and fro.
 
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1ofthem said:
I guess that means you have no answer or scriptural proof for any of this....That's cool, but I would suggest you study the scripture and quit being tossed to and fro.
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That is so interesting because of something I feel the Lord showed me about said poster you are addressing. Your words match what my understanding was.
 
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DorothyMae said:
That is so interesting because of something I feel the Lord showed me about said poster you are addressing. Your words match what my understanding was.
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Yeah, and what I don't get is why so defensive. Disagreeing with someone and asking them questions is not arguing....well not in my opinion, anyhow.
 
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1ofthem said:
Yeah, and what I don't get is why so defensive. Disagreeing with someone and asking them questions is not arguing....well not in my opinion, anyhow.
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When you touch the root of a man's confidence in their eternal destiny that in their hearts they are shakey on, they fight you. You are threatening their whole eternal security and so they yell that same as when you poke a wound. At least that seems to be the case from Observation.
 
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Duskey said:
And I don’t need to look up those verses to know they’re God’s word and His word is binding.
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One Needs to take all of his word(s) not just Isolate the bits we like and think we got God caught in a legal Dilemma where He has to do what we think his words insist he has to do.
 
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DorothyMae said:
When you touch the root of a man's confidence in their eternal destiny that in their hearts they are shakey on, they fight you. You are threatening their whole eternal security and so they yell that same as when you poke a wound. At least that seems to be the case from Observation.
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Are you trying to bait?.......leave it alone.
 
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1ofthem, you will also see a slew of jeering and laughing emocons from those who cannot discuss a matter like adults. It is like Kindergarten. This also tells you that you have hit an emotional nerve as they cannot respond in an intelligent manner but throw virtural peanuts at you. Just don't give into the temptation to sink to that Level.
 
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Still want to know what makes some people so irresistible to God that he chose them and banned others from his grace?

If this is true then he found some type of favor in them? And would this not have him being a respecter of persons?
 
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DorothyMae said:
I am baiting no one. I am explaining behaviour. Please move on. You do not understand what you are addressing.
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I ask you again..quit your snide remarks which are directed at me...anyone can see it for themselves....leave me alone...and stop assuming stuff about me..I’m sick of it.
 
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1ofthem said:
Still want to know what makes some people so irresistible to God that he chose them and banned others from his grace?

If this is true then he found some type of favor in them? And would this not have him being a respecter of persons?
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It would be. You can ask them but they will have no answer. You are looking for a rational understandable Basis for this theology and there is None. This isn't the only rational problem they cannot address. You can try to ask but I warn you, the Response will not be Christlike and at the least they will post uncomplimentary emocons when words fail them. The hard part is not giving back the same. It is a test of character.
 
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