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Duskey

Duskey

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Duskey said:
You’re right, and that means not becoming defensive against people who are trying to help you ascertain Truth.
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This received a thumbs down. 😆
Only someone trying to prevent others from ascertaining Truth would give such a comment a thumbs down. Buyer Beware.
 
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Duskey said:
Is God’s grace irrevocable or can salvation be lost? Also, do we have to work for our salvation in order to maintain it?
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It's a "gift" from how I interpret it. I don't even know how I would go about earning Salvation. I think we can walk away from God, but that does not mean He ever leaves us. He actually gives us time to return. I suppose if you committed yourself to a life disobeying God and commit suicide you could lose that way. Hmmm, I can see why this topic is debatable.
 
Duskey

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inHisImage said:
It's a "gift" from how I interpret it. I don't even know how I would go about earning Salvation. I think we can walk away from God, but that does not mean He ever leaves us. He actually gives us time to return. I suppose if you committed yourself to a life disobeying God and commit suicide you could lose that way. Hmmm, I can see why this topic is debatable.
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Welcome to the family, beloved. 😎
 
jackrosie

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EleventhHour said:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:22

If one wants to exemplify the fruits of the Spirit then one needs to let Jesus be the supply.
In scripture we also see the grace of God doing something in, for to, or through someone.
Under Grace sin shall no dominion over you.
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The fruit of the Spirit should be seen in a believer,that should be one of the main focus..Jesus should be seen in us.

Yes or No?
 
jackrosie

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Duskey said:
It’s not about ME, it’s about YOU swaying to and fro from one view to another depending on who it is you’re collaborating with at the moment. I’m grounded in Truth as is most EVERYONE trying to help YOU.
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Again twisting my words,to suit your own agenda..I am doing no such thing...I am grounded in truth.

But it’s not your truth...that I’m grounded in......now please leave me alone.
 
jackrosie

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EleventhHour said:
And....scripture tells we have a choice to make minute by minute>>> walk in the flesh, or walk in the Spirit.
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We walk in the Spirit..we die to the flesh....I don’t want to discuss with you ...you don’t make sense to me....now I ask you once again...please leave me alone.
 
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jackrosie said:
You don’t seem to acknowledge the fruits of the Spirit..that worries me....
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God pours out His Grace on those that stand with Him in TRUTH and then that Divine Love He pours into our hearts we can exemplify outward.

As well, the more in line you come with His Truth the more He will lead into greater Truth.
 
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jackrosie said:
The fruit of the Spirit should be seen in a believer,that should be one of the main focus..Jesus should be seen in us.

Yes or No?
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Yes of course....but we still have the flesh, Satan and the world.
Growing in grace takes time....because we have much to contend with.

But yes of course being able to draw from the supply of Christ's ongoing grace is amazing!!!
 
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EleventhHour said:
Yes of course....but we still have the flesh, Satan and the world.
Growing in grace takes time....because we have much to contend with.

But yes of course being able to draw from the supply of Christ's ongoing grace is amazing!!!
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That ole devil is a smart cookie. Too bad for him, we have the greatest attorney that money cannot buy.
 
jackrosie

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EleventhHour said:
Yes of course....but we still have the flesh, Satan and the world.
Growing in grace takes time....because we have much to contend with.

But yes of course being able to draw from the supply of Christ's ongoing grace is amazing!!!
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How many yrs have you been born again?.....
 
stonesoffire

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jackrosie said:
The fruit of the Spirit should be seen in a believer,that should be one of the main focus..Jesus should be seen in us.

Yes or No?
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JR

How about we replace the word “should” with “will be”?

The reason is that should brings judgement, condemnation, and law.

Will be is faith.
 
Magenta

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EleventhHour said:
Is there something wrong here in what I stated, you are knowledgeable in scripture!!

EleventhHour said:
And....scripture tells we have a choice to make minute by minute>>> walk in the flesh, or walk in the Spirit.
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I am not one of those who say we have no choice... so I agree :)

In fact, I remember quite well, and will likely never forget, when the choice was put before me.

It turned my whole world upside down. A turning point, after which, nothing was the same.
 
jackrosie

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stonesoffire said:
JR

How about we replace the word “should” with “will be”?

The reason is that should brings judgement, condemnation, and law.

Will be is faith.
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I don’t agree sorry.......you have my belief on the fruits of the Spirit.....I am not judging anyone.
 
Duskey

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Eleven, you were asked how many years have you been born again and as I scrolled down I saw your name and underneath your name it said three minutes ago. That was a funny mental hiccup. 😆
 
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