Not By Works

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I firmly believe that one cannot agree to "salvation is not by works" and then believe salvation is not secure or stated also as "once saved always saved."

OSAS completely scriptural!!

People either believe in salvation for eternity or they believe one has to do something to keep their salvation or do something to get it back.

 

[inHisImage]

You seem to be very judgmental to many posts on here. As for that phrase I posted, did Jesus not say it?

I know the context of Matthew where He made that statement. He did not make that statement about one of His followers like you just did.

 

[EleventhHour]

100% correct.....and the tragic truth...the post can be true and still get a negative mark......

Wow Cool.......... in AU my same post gets two responses and two likes from you ... excellent!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Having coffee....615 AM Friday Morning in AU, reading the thread....haha Looks like a house on a Saturday morning after an all night party from the 80's ....... 🤓

Jesus still saves eternally by faith dia his grace and mercy!

 

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I know the context of Matthew where He made that statement. He did not make that statement to one of his followers like you just did.

Are you accusing me of making a statement to one of His followers? If so, where is the name of the person I called a swine?

So what did Jesus mean about casting our pearls before swine?

You seem to be jumping on every post in the last few pages. Are you are corrector? Or what?

 

[inHisImage]

You seem to be very judgmental to many posts on here. As for that phrase I posted, did Jesus not say it?

It's only judgmental to those who are doing wrong.

 

[VCO]

That’s why it’s good to ask Jesus each day to be more like him....and less of ourselves.....that we bear fruit to Glorify His Name!!

And HERE are the FRUITS HE WANTS US TO MANIFEST.

A LIFESTYLE CHARACTERISTIC OF ALWAYS MANIFESTING:

Galatians 5:22-26 (HCSB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.
24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 Since we live by the Spirit, we must also follow the Spirit.
26 We must not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

So what are the fruits of the flesh that are so EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE ? ? ?

Galatians 5:16-21 (HCSB)
16 I say then, walk by the Spirit and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
17 For the flesh desires what is against the Spirit, and the Spirit desires what is against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you don’t do what you want.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, moral impurity, promiscuity,
20 idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, dissensions, factions,
21 envy, drunkenness, carousing, and anything similar. I tell you about these things in advance—as I told you before—that those who practice {a habitual lifestyle of doing} such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

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It's only judgmental to those who are doing wrong.

So please are you a moderator? Are you on here to be sure to correct the rest of us? Or are you on here to hold discussions?

 

[inHisImage]

Are you accusing me of making a statement to one of His followers? If so, where is the name of the person I called a swine?

So what did Jesus mean about casting our pearls before swine?

You seem to be jumping on every post in the last few pages. Are you are corrector? Or what?

If you feel righteous in God what you're doing, why does it matter to you what I think?

 

[PennEd]

True.

But he said this too:

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me (John 12:32).

All men can be drawn, but:

...all men have not faith (2 Thessalonians 3:2).

Bro, I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but trying to understand what you're saying when compared to scripture.

I believe the drawing of "all men" in this passage is a reference to Gentiles worldwide, but not every individual human being.
All men, not just Jews are eligible for Salvation. This would have been revelatory to His Jewish audience.

 

[inHisImage]

So please are you a moderator? Are you on here to be sure to correct the rest of us? Or are you on here to hold discussions?

I've read many of your posts. You aren't discussing anything, you are hammering the one who disagrees with you.

 

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If you feel righteous in God what you're doing, why does it matter to you what I think?

it doesn't matter to me but since you have made corrections towards me on several of my posts, I am just curious.

 

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I've read many of your posts. You aren't discussing anything, you are hammering the one who disagrees with you.

Well, I get my correction from the Lord. You spoke earlier about how you are corrected daily by the Holy Spirit, so I guess we are even Steven.

 

[jackrosie]

Fruit bearing in its season. There are several fruits in the bible. Perhaps, bearing much fruit here refers to our conduct since it associated with our love of God and our obedience to him. This comparable with the fruits of righteousness as stated in Romans 6:21-22; Phil. 1: 9-11 to approved things that are excellent...sincere and without offence till the day of Christ, hence doing what's right in accordance to his will. Second, it the fruit of the Holy Spirit which is given to us by the Holy Spirit as we only need to cultivate them and it may also speaks here since the thing mentioned is the joy might be full. Love, joy, peace etc are fruit of the Spirit in the believers life. (Galatians5:22-24) or it may also refer to the converts since our Lord speaks about discipleship as in v.8 bearing much fruit so shall be my disciples. The disciples of the Lord will bear disciple, the thing of multiplying himself through soulwinning. (Romans 1;13).

And HERE are the FRUITS HE WANTS US TO MANIFEST.

A LIFESTYLE CHARACTERISTIC OF ALWAYS MANIFESTING:

Galatians 5:22-26 (HCSB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.
24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 Since we live by the Spirit, we must also follow the Spirit.
26 We must not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

So what are the fruits of the flesh that are so EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE ? ? ?

Galatians 5:16-21 (HCSB)
16 I say then, walk by the Spirit and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
17 For the flesh desires what is against the Spirit, and the Spirit desires what is against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you don’t do what you want.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, moral impurity, promiscuity,
20 idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, dissensions, factions,
21 envy, drunkenness, carousing, and anything similar. I tell you about these things in advance—as I told you before—that those who practice {a habitual lifestyle of doing} such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Fruits of the Spirit I pray for every day....to be more like Jesus!!!

 

[inHisImage]

it doesn't matter to me but since you have made corrections towards me on several of my posts, I am just curious.

They are not corrections, they are observations. And I have not declared anything towards you, but rather I have asked for clarification to your underline meaning.

 

[jackrosie]

Well, I get my correction from the Lord. You spoke earlier about how you are corrected daily by the Holy Spirit, so I guess we are even Steven.

I was convicted by the Holy Spirit over a post on another site....I went and quickly deleted and said sorry to the Lord.

 

[inHisImage]

Well, I get my correction from the Lord. You spoke earlier about how you are corrected daily by the Holy Spirit, so I guess we are even Steven.

The only way you could ever feel guilty by what I post is if the Holy Spirit has made you feel guilty.

 

[preacher4truth]

I believe the drawing of "all men" in this passage is a reference to Gentiles worldwide, but not every individual human being.
All men, not just Jews are eligible for Salvation. This would have been revelatory to His Jewish audience.

Yes, that is the meaning in context.

 

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But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:4-5 |

The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen.
Revelation 22:21

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9

 

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Having coffee....615 AM Friday Morning in AU, reading the thread....haha Looks like a house on a Saturday morning after an all night party from the 80's ....... 🤓

Jesus still saves eternally by faith dia his grace and mercy!

It is. lolololol