There have been many claimants to the title of the Messiah as predicted in the Torah. How can we know Jesus is the right one?

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EternalFire

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His Spirit that dwells within me dispels and settles any and all possible doubts!
 
Mattathias

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BuffyLou said:
I thought the messiah was meant to secure a homeland for the Jews?
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Why don’t you find his resurrection from the dead persuasive?

Jesus is the seed of Abraham. All who belong to Jesus, Jews and Gentiles, will receive the land promised to Abraham. Do you doubt that Jesus is the Messiah because the land hasn’t yet been given to Abraham and his seed?
 
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Mattathias said:
Why don’t you find his resurrection from the dead persuasive?

Jesus is the seed of Abraham. All who belong to Jesus, Jews and Gentiles, will receive the land promised to Abraham. Do you doubt that Jesus is the Messiah because the land hasn’t yet been given to Abraham and his seed?
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I doubt it because it did not occur in Jesus' lifetime.
 
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oldethennew

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buff,
we can only have one Master, and it is evident to ALL here,
who you serve, and it is for sure not, YHVH...
 
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oldethennew

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Buff,
what are you saying 'is not TRUE"???
one either believes in The Father and the Son,
or they don't,
which one is it???
you are coming across as one speaking with 'two-tongues' -
please, tell us what you believe???
 
SoulWeaver

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Magenta said:
Do you know how many hundreds of them there are?:unsure:
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In my experience there's a lot more than even listed as "official", I keep running into more every time I read the OT.
But I'd like to hear OP's opinion about this first before giving my reply.
 
Corban

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BuffyLou said:
I thought the messiah was meant to secure a homeland for the Jews?
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You are correct. The delay is because the Jews rejected Jesus. A unknown period of time is set from the murder of Jesus to (i) chastise Israel, and (ii) collect a people in quality and number to rule the earth (Act.15:14-16). When this is complete, Jesus will return and raise up the house of David, of which He is the promised King to sit on Israel's throne forever. He can only do this if He has been resurrected from the dead. At present, death is the great enemy to men's aspirations. But once death is overcome, the predicted HEIR will, together with His New Man, reign over Israel and reign over the earth. We tend to discount this because we don't live long enough. But, notwithstanding your seeming doubts (which I understand), is it not logical that if Jesus fulfilled over 330 prophecies literally and accurately, the remaining 600 or so will be fulfilled literally and accurately as well?

I wish you an interesting journey in your quest to establish Jesus as bonafide. May it end well.
 
Magenta

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BuffyLou said:
I doubt it because it did not occur in Jesus' lifetime.
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Are you unaware of the fact that Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders."? :unsure: You being so knowledgeable on His arrest and everything ;) Are you unaware also of how often and on how many points Jesus attemped to correct their thinking?
 
Nehemiah6

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BuffyLou said:
I have no idea what your point is.
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His point is that Satan and demons hate the truth, particularly the truth about Jesus of Nazareth. And when you question this truth, it may be a demon prompting you to do so.
 
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Jesus gives instruction not to go if anyone says there he is, because ...

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:27 KJV

So it is further clarified in the letter to the Thessalonians.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:16‭-‬17 NASB

So we don't have to worry about which claimant is the real deal, because when he comes it will be no big secret, and he will gather us to him.
 
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