The Complacent christian world.

[wakeup]

The christian world are so sure that they are dwelling in zion,but the truth is no, they are not in ZION THE CITY OF GOD They are deep rooted in the great city called babylon the great. They dont preach the scriptures in truth; but they have gone into counselling,not preaching the word in truth, and nothing but the truth.

For strangers has crept into the teachings,the enemy has crept into the churches; and they dont even know it,they have fallen asleep,they have been robbed of the treasures.
They preach that when you are born again,you are secured a place in heaven,and nothing can change that; that makes them comfortable, slack and therefore complacent. Unfortunately thats not how it works.

we have been ignoring Jesus warnings; in the last days many will come in MY NAME,preaching Christ, deceiving the MANY, spreading through out the earth to make one proselyte,and making two fold the child of hell. We must learn to listen to jesus,he is warning us:The shepherds are hired shepherds,they dont realy care about the sheep,as long as they get their wages,they are happy.

The true shepherd love the sheep,they are his own sheep,he is no hireling; the sheep hear his voice, and the sheep follow him, and love him. The sheep follow him to the green pastures,and dark valleys,because the sheep trust the shepherd.

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body; if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit. dont confuse this with
the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body; now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body. This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth. Dont forget what Jesus said;
He said, ''This gospel will be preached in the world, FOR A WITNESS. Only for a WITNESS,he knows that knowledge wont be present; but it will be in the 1000yr reign.
Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. By this only we know that knowledge has not yet arrived. But for the little flock only.

Jesus is the word,so feed your self with the words in the bible, that is inspired by the holy spirit. Let the holy spirit be your great teacher,for he is the spirit of truth,the comforter. Jesus said in john; The words that i speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life; It is the spirit that quickeneth. (The spirit that resurrects.)

''wakeup''.

 

[pickles]

True, wakeup, there is alot of deception.
There are many ways that the truth is mistaught.
Paul spoke to it being even in the early church.
It is nothing new.
But the true heart seeking Jesus will be filled.
I see much damage in the church, those that are confused and discouraged, simply because of false teachings.
Simply because when led down the wrong path, often one hits a wall.
But praise God that it is a wall and not the wide and easy road.
For those discouraged, Jesus has stopped you from the wrong path.
So be glad that it is a wall, be still, and know God.
Then Let Jesus bring you to truth through the Holy Spirit.
Read the scriptures, the Holy Spirit will bring the understanding given by God.

Yes, there is deception.
But praise God in Jesus, that the truth is greater than any deception.
Jesus said, I am the good shepard, I know my sheep and they know me.
Let not your heart be troubled, you are worth more than many sparrows.
It is in obedience, to the faith, hope and love we are called to in Jesus, giving all glory to Him, setting aside oneself, the flesh , for Jesus.
Reciving all that is given by God, scriptures, Jesus,Holy Spirit !
That the path becomes clear, through Jesus, we are saved!

Thankyou for this post wakeup.

God bless
pickles

 

[wakeup]

True, wakeup, there is alot of deception.
There are many ways that the truth is mistaught.
Paul spoke to it being even in the early church.
It is nothing new.
But the true heart seeking Jesus will be filled.
I see much damage in the church, those that are confused and discouraged, simply because of false teachings.
Simply because when led down the wrong path, often one hits a wall.
But praise God that it is a wall and not the wide and easy road.
For those discouraged, Jesus has stopped you from the wrong path.
So be glad that it is a wall, be still, and know God.
Then Let Jesus bring you to truth through the Holy Spirit.
Read the scriptures, the Holy Spirit will bring the understanding given by God.

Yes, there is deception.
But praise God in Jesus, that the truth is greater than any deception.
Jesus said, I am the good shepard, I know my sheep and they know me.
Let not your heart be troubled, you are worth more than many sparrows.
It is in obedience, to the faith, hope and love we are called to in Jesus, giving all glory to Him, setting aside oneself, the flesh , for Jesus.
Reciving all that is given by God, scriptures, Jesus,Holy Spirit !
That the path becomes clear, through Jesus, we are saved!

Thankyou for this post wakeup.

God bless
pickles

And may God bless you pickles; Here is mat7:14. Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way which leaded unto life, and FEW there be that FIND IT.

''WAKEUP''.

 

[oncemore]

Thank God for this thread wakeup. i just hope people understand what its saying and getting at is my prayer GOD BLESS

 

[giantone]

Way too often the Bible is used like a snippet of nice sayings and then the sermon consists mainly of that snippet or even worse something not even related to the Bible. The Bible is not the main focus at all. Thats what I see in the church services on cable access anyway. If people would read the Bible more and use there brains then pastors would have to get more serious to keep credible. It seems allot of people want to sleep and have nice things said to them.

 

[zone]

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body;

if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit.

dont confuse this with the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body;

now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body.

This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth.

''wakeup''.

WHAT?

where....does this junk come from


GET THEE HENCE O SATAN.

 

[wakeup]

Way too often the Bible is used like a snippet of nice sayings and then the sermon consists mainly of that snippet or even worse something not even related to the Bible. The Bible is not the main focus at all. Thats what I see in the church services on cable access anyway. If people would read the Bible more and use there brains then pastors would have to get more serious to keep credible. It seems allot of people want to sleep and have nice things said to them.

But the people love it that way, this is the problem, they love soothing words and lips service. and the shepherds know this and manipulate on this. The sheep hears the voice of the stranger.The stranger is a hired shepherd.

 

[wakeup]

WHAT?

where....does this junk come from


GET THEE HENCE O SATAN.

You are so filthy and rude.

 

[zone]

You are so filthy and rude.

another church basher with a twisted view of eschatology and a completely gnostic view of jesus.
but of course among the CHOSEN FEW who has been given 'real knowledge'.

sure thing.

The christian world are so sure that they are dwelling in zion,but the truth is no, they are not in ZION THE CITY OF GOD They are deep rooted in the great city called babylon the great. They dont preach the scriptures in truth; but they have gone into counselling,not preaching the word in truth, and nothing but the truth.

For strangers has crept into the teachings,the enemy has crept into the churches; and they dont even know it,they have fallen asleep,they have been robbed of the treasures.
They preach that when you are born again,you are secured a place in heaven,and nothing can change that; that makes them comfortable, slack and therefore complacent. Unfortunately thats not how it works.


we have been ignoring Jesus warnings; in the last days many will come in MY NAME,preaching Christ, deceiving the MANY, spreading through out the earth to make one proselyte,and making two fold the child of hell. We must learn to listen to jesus,he is warning us:The shepherds are hired shepherds,they dont realy care about the sheep,as long as they get their wages,they are happy.

The true shepherd love the sheep,they are his own sheep,he is no hireling; the sheep hear his voice, and the sheep follow him, and love him. The sheep follow him to the green pastures,and dark valleys,because the sheep trust the shepherd.

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body; if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit. dont confuse this with the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body; now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body. This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth. Dont forget what Jesus said;

He said, ''This gospel will be preached in the world, FOR A WITNESS. Only for a WITNESS,he knows that knowledge wont be present; but it will be in the 1000yr reign.

Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. By this only we know that knowledge has not yet arrived. But for the little flock only.

Jesus is the word,so feed your self with the words in the bible, that is inspired by the holy spirit. Let the holy spirit be your great teacher,for he is the spirit of truth,the comforter. Jesus said in john; The words that i speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life; It is the spirit that quickeneth. (The spirit that resurrects.)

''wakeup''.

 

[AnandaHya]

Ok Wakeup let me say your starting to worry me, (ok Zone and others I hear the snickering, I'm slow you'll just have to wait for me to catch up sometimes. I like to believe the best of people and I still think Wakeup is seeking after God, just wanders off sometimes...)


I suggest going to church, just walk in a place sanctified to the praising of God's holy name, just walk up to the altar and pray. Not asking you to believe what the pastor is saying, not asking you to give them any money or even be nice to the people though personally the nice part and a few other things are in the Bible.

Just GO TO CHURCH and pray. can you do that? nothing flashy, just you God in GOD's house?

The christian world are so sure that they are dwelling in zion,but the truth is no, they are not in ZION THE CITY OF GOD They are deep rooted in the great city called babylon the great. They dont preach the scriptures in truth; but they have gone into counselling,not preaching the word in truth, and nothing but the truth.

you would know this because you attend church regularly right? or is this just heresy and slander?

For strangers has crept into the teachings,the enemy has crept into the churches; and they dont even know it,they have fallen asleep,they have been robbed of the treasures.

you can't rob a house unless you first bind the master. JESUS is our Master are you saying these strangers have bound Jesus and are now robbing Him?

They preach that when you are born again,you are secured a place in heaven,and nothing can change that; that makes them comfortable, slack and therefore complacent. Unfortunately thats not how it works.

REALLY God's word is not enough? do you know what it means to be BORN AGAIN? you have the HOLY SPIRIT living INSIDE OF YOU, otherwise you are NOT born AGAIN.


we have been ignoring Jesus warnings; in the last days many will come in MY NAME,preaching Christ, deceiving the MANY, spreading through out the earth to make one proselyte,and making two fold the child of hell. We must learn to listen to jesus,he is warning us:The shepherds are hired shepherds,they dont realy care about the sheep,as long as they get their wages,they are happy.

Don't know about your preacher but mine worked unpaid for over six months until his savings were depleted and now he is looking for a full time job and having a hard time at it, but he will still pray with anyone who calls him and answers any and all my Bible questions with love and compassion. He's a chaplain at the hospital and visits the elderly in his free time as well. though I wish he'd stop digging ditches. especially three in a day when his back was feeling good. he's over 60 but won't slow down unless his body makes him.

The true shepherd love the sheep,they are his own sheep,he is no hireling; the sheep hear his voice, and the sheep follow him, and love him. The sheep follow him to the green pastures,and dark valleys,because the sheep trust the shepherd.

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body; if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit. dont confuse this with
the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body; now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

i was with you until "you will be as the angels" we will be higher then the angels because we will judge them and being born again does not make us as the angels in this life because angels are not GIVEN in MARRIAGE. its in the Bible I can find the verses if you need them?

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body. This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth. Dont forget what Jesus said;
He said, ''This gospel will be preached in the world, FOR A WITNESS. Only for a WITNESS,he knows that knowledge wont be present; but it will be in the 1000yr reign.
Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. By this only we know that knowledge has not yet arrived. But for the little flock only.

wow what a way to twist scripture. PERFECTION has not arrived, Knowledge is in part....

Jesus is the word,so feed your self with the words in the bible, that is inspired by the holy spirit. Let the holy spirit be your great teacher,for he is the spirit of truth,the comforter. Jesus said in john; The words that i speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life; It is the spirit that quickeneth. (The spirit that resurrects.)

''wakeup''.

here is some Bible verses you might want to REVIEW:

1 Corinthians 13:4-13 (New King James Version)

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.


I will keep you in my prayers and hope you listen and go find a church that has a truly Holy Spirit lead undershepherd and that is firmly rooted in the Bible to help you navigate this life.

in case you need help, most agree that Perfection is the second coming of Jesus, but some say it is the completion of the Bible. I'm in the first camp.

 

[zone]

Ok Wakeup let me say your starting to worry me, (ok Zone and others I hear the snickering, I'm slow you'll just have to wait for me to catch up sometimes. I like to believe the best of people and I still think Wakeup is seeking after God, just wanders off sometimes...)

i have nothing to "snicker" about.
please leave me out of your delusions. i'm tired of your role-playing.
thank you.

 

[loveschild]

You are so filthy and rude.

Thank God for you wakeup!

 

[silverwind]

Thank God for you wakeup!

hmmmmmmmmm, somehow i find this statement a kind of manipulation.

 

[silverwind]

Ok Wakeup let me say your starting to worry me, (ok Zone and others I hear the snickering, I'm slow you'll just have to wait for me to catch up sometimes. I like to believe the best of people and I still think Wakeup is seeking after God, just wanders off sometimes...)


I suggest going to church, just walk in a place sanctified to the praising of God's holy name, just walk up to the altar and pray. Not asking you to believe what the pastor is saying, not asking you to give them any money or even be nice to the people though personally the nice part and a few other things are in the Bible.

Just GO TO CHURCH and pray. can you do that? nothing flashy, just you God in GOD's house?


do you think a church building is needed to pray? i think a closet is a better idea, for God sees what is done in secret.....
you sound very self-righteous...
and i have a question for you... do you go to psychic forums?

 

[loveschild]

hmmmmmmmmm, somehow i find this statement a kind of manipulation.

Well I see attacks all the time by her, do you ever say anything about those attacks? Did you defend wakeup? Why are you defending a attacker of Gods children? I'm wondering about that? Anyone could put anything about God up and she would have a negative remark. The bible says to rebuke and that is what wakeup did. It was long needed and I loved it.

 

[AnandaHya]

Ok Wakeup let me say your starting to worry me, (ok Zone and others I hear the snickering, I'm slow you'll just have to wait for me to catch up sometimes. I like to believe the best of people and I still think Wakeup is seeking after God, just wanders off sometimes...)


I suggest going to church, just walk in a place sanctified to the praising of God's holy name, just walk up to the altar and pray. Not asking you to believe what the pastor is saying, not asking you to give them any money or even be nice to the people though personally the nice part and a few other things are in the Bible.

Just GO TO CHURCH and pray. can you do that? nothing flashy, just you God in GOD's house?


do you think a church building is needed to pray? i think a closet is a better idea, for God sees what is done in secret.....
you sound very self-righteous...
and i have a question for you... do you go to psychic forums?

no actually I don't have time for it and he does pray in the closet and you see the results.

if I sound self-righteous is because you don't know me and this is an internet forum.

 

[AnandaHya]

Well I see attacks all the time by her, do you ever say anything about those attacks? Did you defend wakeup? Why are you defending a attacker of Gods children? I'm wondering about that? Anyone could put anything about God up and she would have a negative remark. The bible says to rebuke and that is what wakeup did. It was long needed and I loved it.

Silverwind, I think Zone is a child of God but she does attack a lot of people and she needs to stop. Wakeup is just brave enough to say something. Which is what Loveschild is supporting, I don't know Loveschild's personal beliefs but no one should be beaten down and made depressed by their beliefs and Zone has done that to a lot of people on this site by NOT LISTENING and FALSELY ACCUSING people.

I see you believe her lies about me. You might want to reexamine MY WORDS and not what SHE SAYS MY WORDS are. I've already told her she lies about me but you believe whatever you want. Its between you and God.

 

[silverwind]

Well I see attacks all the time by her, do you ever say anything about those attacks? Did you defend wakeup? Why are you defending a attacker of Gods children? I'm wondering about that? Anyone could put anything about God up and she would have a negative remark. The bible says to rebuke and that is what wakeup did. It was long needed and I loved it.

I'm not defending anyone, I just wondered about your statement because rather than putting things in large bold blue letters, you could be upfront and say what you REALLY mean. We can still have 'salt' in our words even if we call someone out IN LOVE. So........ please don't assume that I don't have my own thoughts on what others write. Maybe you need to get to know "her" on a personal level, rather than biting back.

 

[silverwind]

Silverwind, I think Zone is a child of God but she does attack a lot of people and she needs to stop. Wakeup is just brave enough to say something. Which is what Loveschild is supporting, I don't know Loveschild's personal beliefs but no one should be beaten down and made depressed by their beliefs and Zone has done that to a lot of people on this site by NOT LISTENING and FALSELY ACCUSING people.

I see you believe her lies about me. You might want to reexamine MY WORDS and not what SHE SAYS MY WORDS are. I've already told her she lies about me but you believe whatever you want. Its between you and God.

??? huh?
I am not going to reexamine anything. You have a gift in making assumptions. This wasn't about zone, did I mention her name anywhere? wow....
You don't know me either, and I don't think you know zone. Stop making assumptions on what other people think, you can't read their minds. As far as calling someone out, you could use some grace with your words.
Just because this is a public (christian?) forum, doesn't mean one can say what they want. We are to be salt and light, not a dart throwing machine.

 

[AnandaHya]

??? huh?
I am not going to reexamine anything. You have a gift in making assumptions. This wasn't about zone, did I mention her name anywhere? wow....
You don't know me either, and I don't think you know zone. Stop making assumptions on what other people think, you can't read their minds. As far as calling someone out, you could use some grace with your words.
Just because this is a public (christian?) forum, doesn't mean one can say what they want. We are to be salt and light, not a dart throwing machine.

UMMM but Loveschild's post was about ZONE???

I don't know zone but I do know what she has posted and told me and that is not an assumption.

dart throwing machine?

interesting...

Mark 16:14-18 (New King James Version)

The Great Commission


14 Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they[a] will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Do you believe in spiritual gifts? Zone has told me before that I was outside Christ's church for believing that spiritual gifts still exist and has told me that I was not a child of God but was leading people astray as a false teacher.

grace is for GOD to give to those who truly are repentant. I have forgiven her but I do not forget especially when she sees fit to belittle me in other post and misrepresents anything I say that she perceives is against HER doctrine.

I do not know you but I know that LOVESCHILD is talking about ZONE when she says "her" in her above statement. you can ask her yourself

so no you didn't say her name but WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

trace it back up. Loveschild talks to wakeup, wakeup tells ZONE she is rude, you comment on Loveschild post.....so who are you talking about if not ZONE?