Justified by work vs faith
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We are justified by his work of faith or called labor of love. He is the just one as the justifier
Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Works or labor are not separate from the will (faith) .What God joins together let no man call separate.
Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Works or labor are not separate from the will (faith) .What God joins together let no man call separate.
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Abraham had enough faith in God to leave his country and travel to the land that God showed him, but that "in of itself" is not why Abraham's faith was accounted as righteousness. In Genesis 15:5-6, we read - Then He brought him outside and said, “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.” And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.
Also in James 2:21, notice closely that James does not say that Abraham's work of offering up Isaac resulted in God's accounting Abraham as righteous. The accounting of Abraham's faith as righteousness was made in Genesis 15:6, many years before his work of offering up Isaac recorded in Genesis 22. The work of Abraham did not have some kind of intrinsic merit to account him as righteous, but it showed or manifested the genuineness of his faith. That is the "sense" in which Abraham was "justified by works." He was shown to be righteous.
In regards to Noah, he had already "found grace" (Genesis 6:8), was "a preacher of righteousness" (2 Peter 2:5), and "walked with God" BEFORE he built the ark. His obedience was a DEMONSTRATION of his faith and not the origin of it. Building the ark saved him and his family (physically) from drowning (Hebrews 11:17) yet Noah was not saved eternally based on the merits of building the ark.
Also in James 2:21, notice closely that James does not say that Abraham's work of offering up Isaac resulted in God's accounting Abraham as righteous. The accounting of Abraham's faith as righteousness was made in Genesis 15:6, many years before his work of offering up Isaac recorded in Genesis 22. The work of Abraham did not have some kind of intrinsic merit to account him as righteous, but it showed or manifested the genuineness of his faith. That is the "sense" in which Abraham was "justified by works." He was shown to be righteous.
In regards to Noah, he had already "found grace" (Genesis 6:8), was "a preacher of righteousness" (2 Peter 2:5), and "walked with God" BEFORE he built the ark. His obedience was a DEMONSTRATION of his faith and not the origin of it. Building the ark saved him and his family (physically) from drowning (Hebrews 11:17) yet Noah was not saved eternally based on the merits of building the ark.
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To my knowledge believe in God is count of righteousness.
Traveling to the promise land prove he believe in God.
So does when he believe in God that he Will have offspring.
Believe that God Will give him offspring is believe but It doesn't need drastic action like move to promise land or sacrifice his son. And that consider righteousness.
How Much more righteousness when he believe to the point willing to kill his only son from his first wife.
Traveling to the promise land prove he believe in God.
So does when he believe in God that he Will have offspring.
Believe that God Will give him offspring is believe but It doesn't need drastic action like move to promise land or sacrifice his son. And that consider righteousness.
How Much more righteousness when he believe to the point willing to kill his only son from his first wife.
Salvation is grace from Jesus but we have to response by faith
Grace through faith
Jesus not grace salvation to all human
Only to whosoever believe.
Than whosoever believe Will bear the fruit of loving work, not murder
Bearing, not produce
The vine produce the fruit, not the branch
The branch only Bearing
Grace through faith
Jesus not grace salvation to all human
Only to whosoever believe.
Than whosoever believe Will bear the fruit of loving work, not murder
Bearing, not produce
The vine produce the fruit, not the branch
The branch only Bearing
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In the scriptures there are many names given to identify the church that Jesus set up, such as; Zion, the new Jerusalem, the church in the wilderness, the church of God, the church of Christ, the bride, the kingdom of heaven, and more.
Church discipline of the church will not allow some to be a member of the church, but that same person could possibly be accepted into eternal heaven, depending upon whether they are regenerated or not.
Church discipline of the church will not allow some to be a member of the church, but that same person could possibly be accepted into eternal heaven, depending upon whether they are regenerated or not.
I believe that Eph 2:8 is misinterpreted by most, thinking that the "through faith" in that verse is in reference to mankind's faith. My understanding, in order to harmonize with the other scriptures, it means "through Christ's faith". Gal 2:16, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ.
When we give our sins to Christ for salvation, we have faith in Christ. Christ is in the word of God, and we are given that word with scripture. Scripture tells tells us that ever since Adam ate the apple death was brought to us and God gave the blood of Christ as the only way to escape. Why should the question come up, it is scripture. Another way of saying it takes faith is that we believe scripture.
So why the question? I believe it is the Lord telling us that as we are made righteous through Christ we are to repent of our sins and give our will to sin to Christ. Humans resist that. They would like Christ to forgive them for keeping their sin. They want both their sin and salvation.
So why the question? I believe it is the Lord telling us that as we are made righteous through Christ we are to repent of our sins and give our will to sin to Christ. Humans resist that. They would like Christ to forgive them for keeping their sin. They want both their sin and salvation.
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Yep, we want sin but save.
Philipian 2:12
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Salvation Not by work but by faith
Our faith couse us to work out of our salvation
Paul,who say salvation not by work, now he say work out your own salvation.
Philipian 2:12
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Salvation Not by work but by faith
Our faith couse us to work out of our salvation
Paul,who say salvation not by work, now he say work out your own salvation.
Because of the sinful nature that was brought to us by the disobedience of Adam and Eve, without Christ we simply cannot manage the perfection God requires. We may think we are obedient enough, but we are not. It is only through Christ that we are saved. But if we have a will to be sinful then we have not given our sin to Christ for salvation, we are holding on to our sin.
We still do not have the perfection required for one little slip and we are not perfect. All God asks is for us to repent of sinning. We become as if we, by our efforts, were righteous but it is the righteousness of Christ that we have. As a righteous person as we acquire the righteousness of Christ, like a miracle we desire to keep that perfection. We can't, but God only asks that we desire to keep it so we work at it.
We still do not have the perfection required for one little slip and we are not perfect. All God asks is for us to repent of sinning. We become as if we, by our efforts, were righteous but it is the righteousness of Christ that we have. As a righteous person as we acquire the righteousness of Christ, like a miracle we desire to keep that perfection. We can't, but God only asks that we desire to keep it so we work at it.
This may be a semantic disagreement, but it seems to me a mere demonstration doesn't quite capture the full weight of the passage in James.
It certainly isn't saying the act merited the declaration of righteousness but it speaks of the act completing the faith. While that could be said to be a demonstration I'm not sure demonstration has quite enough force of effect. Rather the action was a tangible expression of the faith, with the works and faith being of one accord.
In the same way, if we claim to have faith but our works deny that faith we may have to reflect and challenge ourselves whether we are truly resting in the promises of God.
It certainly isn't saying the act merited the declaration of righteousness but it speaks of the act completing the faith. While that could be said to be a demonstration I'm not sure demonstration has quite enough force of effect. Rather the action was a tangible expression of the faith, with the works and faith being of one accord.
In the same way, if we claim to have faith but our works deny that faith we may have to reflect and challenge ourselves whether we are truly resting in the promises of God.