The sweet and the bitter of Biblical prophecy.

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Derek1955

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Revelation 10:8-10 And the voice which I heard from heaven spoke unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which stands upon the sea and upon the earth. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

When this little book was first read its prophetic content would be sweet to the apostle but afterwards, when he had thoroughly digested its strictures, it became bitter.

In it would be things so awful and terrible; such grievous persecutions of the people of God; such desolations in the earth; that the foresight and foreknowledge of them would, when combined with a greater understanding, become painful to his mind.

In particular, the initial sweetness of scriptural meditation can often be mingled with bitterness when, after developing a better perception of them, we make odious comparisons with the state of the world in which we live or even with that of our own hearts.

To avoid Biblical prophecy becoming bitter we should sweeten its sometimes disturbing content by reflecting on Matthew 28:18-20 'Then Jesus came to them and said: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.'

Also on Isaiah 41:10 where we are told: 'So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.'
 
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Revelation 10:8-10 And the voice which I heard from heaven spoke unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which stands upon the sea and upon the earth. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

When this little book was first read its prophetic content would be sweet to the apostle but afterwards, when he had thoroughly digested its strictures, it became bitter.

In it would be things so awful and terrible; such grievous persecutions of the people of God; such desolations in the earth; that the foresight and foreknowledge of them would, when combined with a greater understanding, become painful to his mind.

In particular, the initial sweetness of scriptural meditation can often be mingled with bitterness when, after developing a better perception of them, we make odious comparisons with the state of the world in which we live or even with that of our own hearts.

To avoid Biblical prophecy becoming bitter we should sweeten its sometimes disturbing content by reflecting on Matthew 28:18-20 'Then Jesus came to them and said: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.'

Also on Isaiah 41:10 where we are told: 'So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.'

To which man did christ turn and ask, Father what is thy will? Which covenant attributed to God did he reference when he healed, drove out demons, manifested bread? Who did christ slay in the lords name, that you and i should be asked to reconcile the three headed cerebus and devine solutions for ourselves? The deception of the prophets stopped when christ appeared because he was in the father, and God is not mocked, unless he cannot be found, apparently. If we staple our tongues perhaps we will come to a better understanding of who does not want us to be here, and why, beyond the things it makes us do to each other, which it complains about. But where is our guidance for such a task, and who has asked it of us?

invocation: who will persuade king Ahab to attack/ and die? /I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of his prophets /You will suceed.
If david calls him lord, how can he be his son? Why is it written that the son of man much suffer much at the hands of men? This is your hour, when darkness reigns/ so that the scriptures might be fulfilled.
 

soberxp

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I think this little book is the Bible itself. Sweet is compared to the Bible. This book is sweet,
Bitterness is a metaphor for how people treat the Bible

I was gave up on myself,and burn my bible,cuz at that time,I thought that if I can't save so many people to let them know the truth,
What is the use of the Bible?

But now I understand. I understand the Bible better. I grow up
 

Derek1955

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I think this little book is the Bible itself. Sweet is compared to the Bible. This book is sweet,
Bitterness is a metaphor for how people treat the Bible

I was gave up on myself,and burn my bible,cuz at that time,I thought that if I can't save so many people to let them know the truth,
What is the use of the Bible?

But now I understand. I understand the Bible better. I grow up
Well done you!
 
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I think this little book is the Bible itself. Sweet is compared to the Bible. This book is sweet,
Bitterness is a metaphor for how people treat the Bible

I was gave up on myself,and burn my bible,cuz at that time,I thought that if I can't save so many people to let them know the truth,
What is the use of the Bible?

But now I understand. I understand the Bible better. I grow up
Good analogy

Reminded me of manna or hidden manna (What is it?) spoken of in Revelation 2 the language of parables that reveal the unseen tastes of honey. The daily bread of unfamiliarity given to the Israelites to stop their murmuring and bitterness desiring to go back to 7 days of bondage with no rest to reflect on the rest we have in Christ.
 

Derek1955

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Good analogy

Reminded me of manna or hidden manna (What is it?) spoken of in Revelation 2 the language of parables that reveal the unseen tastes of honey. The daily bread of unfamiliarity given to the Israelites to stop their murmuring and bitterness desiring to go back to 7 days of bondage with no rest to reflect on the rest we have in Christ.

The hidden manna is a symbolic picture of Jesus Christ. As the manna of the Exodus sustained and strengthened the Israelites throughout the forty years of their desert wanderings, so Jesus strengthens and sustains us spiritually as we walk through this life on our way to heaven. Jesus is the “manna” from heaven—the spiritual sustenance we need—and it is promised to us.

Jesus Himself made the connection between the manna of Moses’ day and His own provision of salvation: “I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. . . . This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever" (John 6:48-51.) The manna that sustained the Israelites was a foreshadowing of the sacrifice of Christ; the manna mentioned in revelation 2:17 is a symbolic reference to Christ.
 
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I think this little book is the Bible itself. Sweet is compared to the Bible. This book is sweet,
Bitterness is a metaphor for how people treat the Bible

I was gave up on myself,and burn my bible,cuz at that time,I thought that if I can't save so many people to let them know the truth,
What is the use of the Bible?

But now I understand. I understand the Bible better. I grow up
what little book?
 
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The little one spoken of in the introduction. Revelation 10:8-10

Little as to how it is used in the Bible invites an interesting understanding.
 
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The hidden manna is a symbolic picture of Jesus Christ. As the manna of the Exodus sustained and strengthened the Israelites throughout the forty years of their desert wanderings, so Jesus strengthens and sustains us spiritually as we walk through this life on our way to heaven. Jesus is the “manna” from heaven—the spiritual sustenance we need—and it is promised to us.

Jesus Himself made the connection between the manna of Moses’ day and His own provision of salvation: “I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. . . . This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever" (John 6:48-51.) The manna that sustained the Israelites was a foreshadowing of the sacrifice of Christ; the manna mentioned in revelation 2:17 is a symbolic reference to Christ.
It would seem prior he cause them to thirst and led them though the bitter waters of Judgement the salty water. Exodus 15:22-27.Salt is used to represent judgement fresh or living water the gospel

It was made into fresh living or drinkable water represented through the tree of life in that parable in the old testament. . . the gospel revealed .

James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.