Calvinism and Context?

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awelight said:
Easy to say but prove it from Scripture.
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I have been tirelessly .. go read any thread on Calvinism.

With little effort I might add....while managing to live my life!!

You cannot see it, this dogma blinds peoples minds.... it really is something to see!!
 
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honoring God and debasing man.
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You do not do honor to God by debasing man. Man is made in the image of God, so to debase man is to debase the image of God, and thereby not pay proper honor to God.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I knew there was a reason to login a while ago ............. this is hilarious!! :LOL::D
Best laugh all week!!
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You know for the record....I hate no one on this site, I may come across as angry, or brash or a little mouthy once in a while, but at the end of the day it is because I despise religions that embellish the word of God to peddle error.....if the word supernatural needed to be connected to faith, God would have inspired it.....men constantly "remove and or move" the ancient landmarks that have been set.........always pushing the envelope to skew the word to say something it does not say....to embellish the word with extra words is to do the same thing the snake did in the Garden.....time is short and hell enlarges itself without measure as 10's of thousands of souls pour into it every day while men/false religions tilt the word in favor of their religious creed while rejecting the simplicity found in Christ.

IT IS TRAGIC!
 
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Is there no end to the eisegesis employed by people who adhere to the tenets of TULIP!!
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You and some others throw around TULIP so much, by know you ought to have a flower garden that would rival Tiny Tim's....... tip toe through the tulips..... forgive me Lord.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Ooooooooooo spooky......

Now we have the followers of Calvin using......wait foooo it....

Supernatural faith......

Next it will be Superdupernatural Faith.....

Jesus must have failed to see the memo by Calvin and his followers.....

If a man have (Supernatural) faith the size of a mustard seed......

You know....as special as Calvinists are, I am surprised they are not raising the dead, curing the blind, healing the sick and walking on water....seeing how they have SUPERNATURAL FAITH.
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Have your way.
By the way I just reported you. I also reported Brbdrd.
This cruelty and these childish antics must stop. They have no place in civilized society let alone a Christian message board.
 
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You do not do honor to God by debasing man. Man is made in the image of God, so to debase man is to debase the image of God, and thereby not pay proper honor to God.
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You know as well as I do, he lost a portion of that image in the Fall.
 
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You know as well as I do, he lost a portion of that image in the Fall.
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The image was marred, sure. But your doctrine goes beyond that and gives man the power to destroy the work of God.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I have been tirelessly .. go read any thread on Calvinism.

With little effort I might add....while managing to live my life!!

You cannot see it, this dogma blinds peoples minds.... it really is something to see!!
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People and God, in some cases, and the Devil, blind men's minds according to Scripture, not a Doctrine that fights against darkness.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Is there no end to the eisegesis employed by people who adhere to the tenets of TULIP!!
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See what I mean? Intentionally meant to be insulting. With no meaningful or edifying content.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I have been tirelessly .. go read any thread on Calvinism.

With little effort I might add....while managing to live my life!!

You cannot see it, this dogma blinds peoples minds.... it really is something to see!!
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Why don't you reveal to us your own understanding of systematic theology and your doctrine?
In 50 words or less. No harm in that is there?
 
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cv5 said:
Why don't you reveal to us your own understanding of systematic theology and your doctrine?
In 50 words or less. No harm in that is there?
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I read Martin Lloyd Jones and others ..ten years later threw out his books out and started from scratch with no indoctrination and presuppositions best thing I ever did.

Amen... Thank you God for setting me free from a doctrine that basically creates a moral monster.
 
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cv5 said:
Why don't you reveal to us your own understanding of systematic theology and your doctrine?
In 50 words or less. No harm in that is there?
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systematic theologies are nothing but hubrus.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
The image was marred, sure. But your doctrine goes beyond that and gives man the power to destroy the work of God.
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Please show from the Bible, how this Doctrine, destroys the work of God. The Doctrine of Election defends the works of God.
 
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awelight said:
Christ was never TEMPTED.

The greek word: εκπειρασεις can mean "to test, to try and to tempt" The translators should have never used the English word "tempt or tempted" when it comes down to God or Jesus Christ. There is nothing "temptable" in God or Jesus Christ's nature.

Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Horrible translation, should have been, "Thou shalt not test the Lord thy God".
Mat 22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Again, should have been, "....Why test ye me, ye hypocrites?"
Act 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. Again, should have been "to try". You can't tempt the Spirit.
Heb 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. Again, Christ was not tempted, he was tested, so He can help those that are undergoing trials.

This is just a few examples. It is okay, to use tempted in areas about Satan or man But never God. God cannot be tempted nor does he tempt any man. If Christ had a Peccable nature, one that could be tempted, then He would have been disqualified as the "Lamb of God" and His sacrifice would not have been accepted by the Father. Because that "Lamb" would indeed have a spot and blemish.

Once again, this shows that some should still be listening and learning and not trying to teach.
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I completely agree with you. On all points. Thank you.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
systematic theologies are nothing but hubrus.
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I would cheerfully accept an analog. How about a doctrinal statement? That's easy.
 
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awelight said:
Please show from the Bible, how this Doctrine, destroys the work of God. The Doctrine of Election defends the works of God.
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I reject your restrictions, if you can speak in theological terms so can I. The doctrine of election relies on total inability/ total depravity. That doctrine forwards the idea that in the fall man destroyed the image of God completely removing any ability to connect with God even as a response. In that you forward that man has the ability to destroy what God has wrought.
 
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