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It's my opinion of scripture, that people such as Hitler was so filled with evil, there wasn't a seed of truth to make a confession to salvation?
I think God plants a seed of truth in all people. So, I think Hitler had a seed.
 

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If elected it would be acting president Harris making the pick. Hopefully, if Biden wins the Republicans can at least hold the Senate thus mitigating the damage that Harris would cause.
President Trump is nominating the Justice in a few days, Mitch Mcconnell is going to have a Super Court Justice confirmed in (God Speed) Biden, Harris, or the democrats are going to just cry like baby's, with a little sit and watch (y)
 

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I think God plants a seed of truth in all people. So, I think Hitler had a seed.
Jesus Christ himself acknowledged there were humans that had a father, (The Devil) what seed did they carry?

It's apparent not every person has a seed of truth, not every person hears God's words of truth :)

John 8:42-47KJV
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
 

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truth- it is apparent you don't know the love of God.
For God So Loved The World That He Gave His Only Begotten Son (y)

Not every person will acknowledge this, not every person will enter the eternal kingdom, few will find this kingdom.

Straight is the gate, narrow is the way, (Few) will find it.

Ruth Ginsburg spent her 27 years as a US Supreme Court Justice, supporting and upholding killing the innocent unborn (Abortion), she supported and promoted homosexuality and same sex marriage.

Matthew 7:13-14KJV
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

2 Peter 2:6KJV
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
 

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The video says he said Jesus is not the only way. That is not what he preached his entire life and he did not say that in the clip. That is his POV. And as much as I respected Billy Graham, the Bible tells us who will and will not go to heaven. Billy's word isn't over God's Word.
[Speaking of your post specifically now and unrelated to the OP topic]
What if you were born somewhere where people haven't even heard of Jesus, or did not have any real exposure to the Gospel? It's easy for the Western evangelicals to speak like that from the comfort of the first world. I say "first world" in the sense of availability and common cultural knowledge of the Gospel. I love watching Jewish testimonies; a lot of Jewish converts say, per example, that they didn't even have any idea that Jesus was Jewish, or that He was all about Israel, or what happened in the New Testament. They were forbidden to read it, taught as kids that it's dangerous, that it would corrupt them. Some were just lucky blessed to make friends with a believer who patiently explained it to them and intrigued them to finally pick the book up. Did you know that many of them, even living in Western society, used to think Jesus was some Italian and were completely ignorant? How can some evangelicals judge a person like this with such harshness and readily claim they will go to hell, some with an arrogant certainty even? :(

Billy's not going over God's Word. By saying "true, to an extent" I think he's pointing at the understandings of some modern evangelicals going over God's Word. They seem obsessed with dogma and debating belief systems, but early Christianity was called simply "the Way". It was meant to be a way of life, a spiritual discipline expounded in the Scriptures, not a religion. It took centuries until the full fledged "Christianity" religion was formed and the full Scriptures compiled. I prefer just "the Way"! Not lofty theology, but Beatitudes and other words from His mouth put in practice. Many understand "the only way "to mean, "the religion of Christianity and its theological dogmas [in our definition, of course] is the only way to be saved". But Jesus refers to Himself as the Way in the Word, not to some religious system or dogma, which was created a long time after He ascended. There's no other Way to enter Heaven, except following Jesus and conforming to His image. Whether the person had a cognitive introduction to Jesus or not. Because no one can seek these things or practice these things without the Spirit's help.

The Bible prohibits us from declaring who will go up or down (Rom 10). It does tell us the characteristics of people who will or will not inherit the Kingdom, and this is taught for our edification, and is insufficient knowledge for us to pass final judgments over other peoples' souls.
 
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[Speaking of your post specifically now and unrelated to the OP topic]
What if you were born somewhere where people haven't even heard of Jesus, or did not have any real exposure to the Gospel? It's easy for the Western evangelicals to speak like that from the comfort of the first world. I say "first world" in the sense of availability and common cultural knowledge of the Gospel. I love watching Jewish testimonies; a lot of Jewish converts say, per example, that they didn't even have any idea that Jesus was Jewish, or that He was all about Israel, or what happened in the New Testament. They were forbidden to read it, taught as kids that it's dangerous, that it would corrupt them. Some were just lucky blessed to make friends with a believer who patiently explained it to them and intrigued them to finally pick the book up. Did you know that many of them, even living in Western society, used to think Jesus was some Italian and were completely ignorant? How can some evangelicals judge a person like this with such harshness and readily claim they will go to hell, some with an arrogant certainty even? :(

Billy's not going over God's Word. By saying "true, to an extent" I think he's pointing at the understandings of some modern evangelicals going over God's Word. They seem obsessed with dogma and debating belief systems, but early Christianity was called simply "the Way". It was meant to be a way of life, a spiritual discipline expounded in the Scriptures, not a religion. It took centuries until the full fledged "Christianity" religion was formed and the full Scriptures compiled. I prefer just "the Way"! Not lofty theology, but Beatitudes and other words from His mouth put in practice. Many understand "the only way "to mean, "the religion of Christianity and its theological dogmas [in our definition, of course] is the only way to be saved". But Jesus refers to Himself as the Way in the Word, not to some religious system or dogma, which was created a long time after He ascended. There's no other Way to enter Heaven, except following Jesus and conforming to His image. Whether the person had a cognitive introduction to Jesus or not. Because no one can seek these things or practice these things without the Spirit's help.

The Bible prohibits us from declaring who will go up or down (Rom 10). It does tell us the characteristics of people who will or will not inherit the Kingdom, and this is taught for our edification, and is insufficient knowledge for us to pass final judgments over other peoples' souls.
 
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So many get the passage wrong. We are to judge using righteous judgment.

You say that so many get THAT PASSAGE WRONG. One passage only?
Here are OVER ONE HUNDRED PASSAGES THAT TELL YOU NOT TO JUDGE:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/dont_judge\

Too many on here are judging Ginsberg's death and are actually gleeful because they think that Trump will replace her. But he cannot do so in the last year just prior to an election and this decision was made by Republicans. See the videos on this. If he is reelected, and I am praying to God that he will NOT be reelected because he is horrible. He is everything that no true Christian would ever support. He is a liar, a serial adulterer, a possible rapist, a crook, and so much more.

Trump will lose. Mark my words. He has blown it on all fronts. 2020 will be a win for Joe Biden. I am not thrilled with him either, but ANYTHING is an improvement over this narcissistic, consummate, immoral liar.
 

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Not true - God raises up and takes down rulers as He continues His plan to redeem mankind to Himself, our God raised up President Donald Trump for such a time as this and it was given to many at that time that he would be a two term President, with turmoil, but he will be reelected.
God is continuing to bring back this wayward world to Him, and He gives each of us the opportunity to be a part as He gave us dominion in the 1st chapter of Genesis, he works through us, and so does the devil, it isn't right or left, it is right or wrong.
 
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And, yes I have judged Trump and I dislike judging. So I will pray on this. But, I cannot trust a person who lies, denigrates women, the military, who does not understand how our government works, who is a serial adulterer, who has said nasty things to so many people. That is not "christian".
 

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I think God plants a seed of truth in all people. So, I think Hitler had a seed.
True- he encounters each of us to draw us to Him, if we miss this we do so at our own expense.
Job 33-14 tells us He speaks first one way, then another, though we don't perceive it.
Once we perceive this and take it back to Him in prayer we can grow in relationship more and more.
blessings
 
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Not true - God raises up and takes down rulers as He continues His plan to redeem mankind to Himself, our God raised up President Donald Trump for such a time as this and it was given to many at that time that he would be a two term President, with turmoil, but he will be reelected.

So, if God put rulers in place, then can you say that He put Obama or Clinton in place? And did any of us pray for them?
 

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And, yes I have judged Trump and I dislike judging. So I will pray on this. But, I cannot trust a person who lies, denigrates women, the military, who does not understand how our government works, who is a serial adulterer, who has said nasty things to so many people. That is not "christian".
Sorry to see you react this way, it isn't the godly person I took you to be with your experience in spiritual matters that you shared, if we are His we walk in love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control. I hope this post of yours was just a random slip and you can get back to His path.
 

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Just telling you what the truth of the Bible says.
We deserved clinton and obama era as we who are the remnant of believers didn't do enough well enough to deserve any better than they, and it did wake up the remnant.
 
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Sorry to see you react this way, it isn't the godly person I took you to be with your experience in spiritual matters that you shared, if we are His we walk in love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control. I hope this post of yours was just a random slip and you can get back to His path.

I am sorry you feel that way. Because i dislike Trump, I am somehow no longer spiritual? If anything it is because Trump is the antithesis of all that jesus taught that I am not for the man.

If you remember when John McCain died, he said some awful things. John McCain was a war hero, who was tortured for over 5 years; he could have gone free but he remained with his soldiers. My husband is a lifelong Republican and he did not vote for Trump. There are quite a few Republicans who did not vote for him. I simply did not vote as my conscience woud not opermit me to vote either side. Same for this election.
 
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Just telling you what the truth of the Bible says.
We deserved clinton and obama era as we who are the remnant of believers didn't do enough well enough to deserve any better than they, and it did wake up the remnant.

i loved Obama. so I am done on this site. I wish you well short as my visit was.
 

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You say that so many get THAT PASSAGE WRONG. One passage only?
Here are OVER ONE HUNDRED PASSAGES THAT TELL YOU NOT TO JUDGE:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/dont_judge\

Too many on here are judging Ginsberg's death and are actually gleeful because they think that Trump will replace her. But he cannot do so in the last year just prior to an election and this decision was made by Republicans. See the videos on this. If he is reelected, and I am praying to God that he will NOT be reelected because he is horrible. He is everything that no true Christian would ever support. He is a liar, a serial adulterer, a possible rapist, a crook, and so much more.

Trump will lose. Mark my words. He has blown it on all fronts. 2020 will be a win for Joe Biden. I am not thrilled with him either, but ANYTHING is an improvement over this narcissistic, consummate, immoral liar.
President Trump can't replace Ginsburg?

You better wake up and smell the coffee, he will be giving his nominee next week to the Senate, and ole Mitch Mcconnell is gonna move the nomination to confirmation before the election, (God Speed) (y)

CNBC

Trump nominee to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Supreme Court will get Senate vote, McConnell says

FRI, SEP 18 2020 8:53 PM

KEY POINTS
  • Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Friday that he will hold a vote on President Donald Trump's nominee to fill the vacancy left by the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
  • In a statement issued just over an hour after the Supreme Court said that Ginsburg had passed, McConnell said the nominee, who has not been named, "will receive a vote on the floor."
  • Trump, battling against former Vice President Joe Biden ahead of November's presidential election, is expected to move quickly to name a conservative replacement.
"Statement: Mitch Mcconnell"

In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia's death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president's second term. We kept our promise. Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president's Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year.

By contrast, Americans reelected our majority in 2016 and expanded it in 2018 because we pledged to work with President Trump and support his agenda, particularly his outstanding appointments to the federal judiciary. Once again, we will keep our promise.

President Trump's nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.
 
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Yes, I am not a Fundamentalist. If that is a sin, I will repent, but I have read that it is not a sin.
 

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I am sorry you feel that way. Because i dislike Trump, I am somehow no longer spiritual? If anything it is because Trump is the antithesis of all that jesus taught that I am not for the man.

If you remember when John McCain died, he said some awful things. John McCain was a war hero, who was tortured for over 5 years; he could have gone free but he remained with his soldiers. My husband is a lifelong Republican and he did not vote for Trump. There are quite a few Republicans who did not vote for him. I simply did not vote as my conscience woud not opermit me to vote either side. Same for this election.
Trump is the antithesis of all that Jesus taught?

Joe Biden is pro kill the innocent unborn (Abortion) President Trump is pro life, he is pro religious beliefs, he has signed executive orders on both.

How could a person vote for somebody who will kill the unborn (Abortion), inhumane, without a conscious, no moral direction, reprobate concerning God's heart.