Bible pictures of Jesus in the grave for 3 days

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MyrtleTrees

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The mention of Jonah being in the whale for 3 days, is figuratively used, to picture Jesus as having been dead for 3 days. Last night, after listening to an online preacher, I learned of another story that figuratively pictured those 3 days, in which Jesus was dead (it used the 3 days journey Abraham took - to picture his son as figuratively, being dead): Genesis 22:4. Interesting! I forgot to say this, but the online pastor said that the place Abraham offered his son was the same place Jesus was crucified! I've heard it before but forgot. Maybe it's true - probably so!
 
GraceAndTruth

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There is absoluely NO scriptural or historical evidence for that position. Beware of wolves in sheep clothing. Those wolves prowl the TVs, radio and chat rooms (some are even in the pulpits of churches) to devour the the hearts of baby Christians who need to feast on the word of God to grow, not the junk food of scripture illiterates.
 
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Your opening post.......the reason FOR this partcular discussion, THAT was what I was posting to. Theology is the study of God....which can only come from a study of scripture. Preachers, pastors and others who profess to know something esoteric are the wolves. Abrahams's son never died, not a hair of his head was harmed. Ergo, the 3-day theory for whatever you were trying to purvey was not even close to an exegesis of that event. I was giving you a heads-up to avoid false teachers who posit things beyond scripture. What we don't know, we don't know........I never go beyond scripture.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
Your opening post.......the reason FOR this partcular discussion, THAT was what I was posting to. Theology is the study of God....which can only come from a study of scripture. Preachers, pastors and others who profess to know something esoteric are the wolves. Abrahams's son never died, not a hair of his head was harmed. Ergo, the 3-day theory for whatever you were trying to purvey was not even close to an exegesis of that event. I was giving you a heads-up to avoid false teachers who posit things beyond scripture. What we don't know, we don't know........I never go beyond scripture.
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Magenta did not write the original post. It was Myrtlletrees. You should address your comments to her to be fair.
 
Magenta

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GraceAndTruth said:
Your opening post.......the reason FOR this partcular discussion, THAT was what I was posting to. Theology is the study of God....which can only come from a study of scripture.
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Are you now completely discounting the historical evidence? You seemed to include it at first with this erroneous statement:

"There is absoluely NO scriptural or historical evidence for that position."

Do you have a problem understanding types and shadows?

Your response of immediately jumping to crying "wolf" seems quite disproportionate to the topic at hand.
 
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stepbystep said:
Magenta did not write the original post. It was Myrtlletrees. You should address your comments to her to be fair.
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It was Magenta that asked for claificaton of my original post which was not directed to anyone in particular, I thought it was obvious who I was addressing but guess not. I'll take the correction because it was my error to identity Magenta as the originator of this forum. No excuses. Just my bad.
 
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Ok, thanks for the clarification. God bless
 
GraceAndTruth

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Magenta said:
Are you now completely discounting the historical evidence? You seemed to include it at first with this erroneous statement:

"There is absoluely NO scriptural or historical evidence for that position."

Do you have a problem understanding types and shadows?

Your response of immediately jumping to crying "wolf" seems quite disproportionate to the topic at hand.
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No reason for you to get catty here. Remember to correct gently?? LOL
So post your evidence. Types and Shadows can be over-used and seen in places they have no reference to. They are Isogesis teaching at best and heresy at their worst. Christ as the Lamb of God is obvious in the sacrifice of Abraham but more shadowy was the 3 days...and how it connects to Jonah or the tomb.....or ? I think I should just go back to reading my book which is making a lot more sense than these chats today.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
No reason for you to get catty here. Remember to correct gently?? LOL
So post your evidence. Types and Shadows can be over-used and seen in places they have no reference to. They are Isogesis teaching at best and heresy at their worst. Christ as the Lamb of God is obvious in the sacrifice of Abraham but more shadowy was the 3 days...and how it connects to Jonah or the tomb.....or ? I think I should just go back to reading my book which is making a lot more sense than these chats today.
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Catty? In what way exactly was I catty? You are full of false accusations today. What is Isogesis? You are making little sense. Jesus Himself connected His three days in the earth (post crucifixion) with Jonah's three days in the belly of the beast.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
Abrahams's son never died, not a hair of his head was harmed. Ergo, the 3-day theory for whatever you were trying to purvey was not even close to an exegesis of that event.
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The OP never suggested that Abraham's son died [that is, literally].

Personally, I believe the OP is referencing the following passage:

Hebrews 11:17-19 -

"17 By faith Abraham, being tested, has offered up Isaac. Even the one having received the promises was offering up his only begotten son, 18 as to whom it was said, “In Isaac your offspring will be reckoned,”b 19 having reasoned that God was able even to raise him out from the dead, from where he received him also in a simile [/parable - G3850]."


So, it would have been when Abraham "set out" to this task, that he already considered his son as an offering ['dead'], where we read in Genesis 22 -

"2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
3 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.
4 Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.
 
Magenta

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TheDivineWatermark said:
The OP never suggested that Abraham's son died [that is, literally].

Personally, I believe the OP is referencing the following passage:

Hebrews 11:17-19 -

"17 By faith Abraham, being tested, has offered up Isaac. Even the one having received the promises was offering up his only begotten son, 18 as to whom it was said, “In Isaac your offspring will be reckoned,”b 19 having reasoned that God was able even to raise him out from the dead, from where he received him also in a simile [/parable - G3850]."
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Exactly. Why this is being rejected as a type or foreshadowing of Jesus coming as the perfect Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world is, quite frankly, beyond me. God said He would provide the sacrificial offering, and He did :)
 
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Well, that seemed to go as well as it could. Congrats to all involved. The opening call for civility was aptly demonstrated. God Bless you all.
 
Magenta

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Thanks! I listened to it now. I see he agreed with it being an allegory in the Bible - Abraham offering up his son.
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Yes and amen... and actually, I have never seen anyone deny it until just yesterday right here :unsure: Although Muslims deny that it was Isaac whom Abraham was to sacrifice, and insert Ishmael instead, even though God calls Isaac Abraham's only son more than once, plus Isaac is the child of promise, a miraculous birth, and not Ishmael. I find it quite fascinating also that Mount Moriah is the same mountain where Jesus was crucified. The connections are unmistakable; how anyone could deny them gives me pause to question the motives, and orientation, of the denier, for sure.
 
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MT,
any time the number (3) comes up in Scripture, we should definitely 'study it' -
because, like Jesus says;
JOHN 5:46.
For had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.
Moriah means 'chosen of Jehovah', and it also pertains to TEACHING', and so,
The Lord is continually, lovingly, patiently, 'teaching US...
ROM. 11:33.
OH the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are His judgments,
and His ways past finding out!
 
Nebuchadnezzer

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MyrtleTrees said:
The mention of Jonah being in the whale for 3 days, is figuratively used, to picture Jesus as having been dead for 3 days. Last night, after listening to an online preacher, I learned of another story that figuratively pictured those 3 days, in which Jesus was dead (it used the 3 days journey Abraham took - to picture his son as figuratively, being dead): Genesis 22:4. Interesting! I forgot to say this, but the online pastor said that the place Abraham offered his son was the same place Jesus was crucified! I've heard it before but forgot. Maybe it's true - probably so!
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Thanks for sharing. It is informative and thought provoking.

I would like to add these:

I see Jonah being "dead" in the whale for three days and nights before being brought back to life as a powerful foreshadow of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I see the Book of Jonah as foretelling that the Savior will be also for the Gentiles.

I also see the Book of Jonah foreshadowing baptism, and the spiritual truth that one must be born again.

For it was only possible for Jonah to serve God after he was born again, and like many of us even after being born again did he struggle and wrestle with God's will.
 
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MyrtleTrees said:
The mention of Jonah being in the whale for 3 days, is figuratively used, to picture Jesus as having been dead for 3 days. Last night, after listening to an online preacher, I learned of another story that figuratively pictured those 3 days, in which Jesus was dead (it used the 3 days journey Abraham took - to picture his son as figuratively, being dead): Genesis 22:4. Interesting! I forgot to say this, but the online pastor said that the place Abraham offered his son was the same place Jesus was crucified! I've heard it before but forgot. Maybe it's true - probably so!
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According to the two parables Jonas and Jesus the last sign as a wonder. Jesus was not dead three days. The Holy Spirit cannot die. In tomb called heart of the earth or belly of the whale describes sufferings unto death, not dead never to rise to new spirit life. But pouring out Spirit life in jeopardy of one own Spirit. .The tomb describes the last part of the three day demonstration.

The first part of the demonstration was in the garden of Gethsemane as the witness of God according to the promise Isaiah 53. Involving the Father and Son alone. The second part the witness of man the cross the fleshly witness . A three part demonstration. . . three days

The word three is used to denote the end of a matter throughout the Bible
 
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