Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

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OIC1965

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throughfaith said:
I agree that we go preach the Gospel to all . The message of reconciliation.
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And that is the means by which people are called into the Kingdom.

We agree on enough to not divide over things we disagree on.
 
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OIC1965 said:
God calls through the Gospel

Man believes

Justification.

But you have man called to service before he’s justified. That don’t preach, in my opinion
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God doesn't call an unsaved man to service. The man must be in Christ, justified. We are justified the moment we are placed in Christ.
 
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John146 said:
God doesn't call an unsaved man to service. The man must be in Christ, justified. We are justified the moment we are placed in Christ.
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correct. God calls a person to believe, and when they believe, they are justified. That is why the order Paul gives is foreknew, predestinated, called, justified, glorified!
 
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For anyone who's interested. ( im not saying I agree with everything Flowers says ) I think this is useful .
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Hey bro can you open up a thread on this anti Calvin stuff so we do
Not destroy another thread. Seems like far to many threads are turned into attacks on Calvinism
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Hey bro can you open up a thread on this anti Calvin stuff so we do
Not destroy another thread. Seems like far to many threads are turned into attacks on Calvinism
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I don't think we're off topic with the thread.
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I don't think we're off topic with the thread.
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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Election is not a Calvinist only view. So it is not a Calvinist subject. There are not even any calvinists in here for You to go after yet you are responding to everyone from a Calvinist perspective

It’s wrong my friend.
 
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throughfaith

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OIC1965 said:
And that is the means by which people are called into the Kingdom.

We agree on enough to not divide over things we disagree on.
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I'm not dividing with anyone, just defending what the bible says .
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Election is not a Calvinist only view. So it is not a Calvinist subject. There are not even any calvinists in here for You to go after yet you are responding to everyone from a Calvinist perspective

It’s wrong my friend.
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Type in Election or Predestination into Google and tell me its not a Calvinist subject.
 
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Type in Election or Predestination into Google and tell me its not a Calvinist subject.
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I am not Calvinist and I believe in predestination. A lot of people are not Calvinist and they to believe in predestination. Predestination is in the word. It’s not a Calvinist thing. People make it a Calvinist thing like your doing
 
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throughfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not Calvinist and I believe in predestination. A lot of people are not Calvinist and they to believe in predestination. Predestination is in the word. It’s not a Calvinist thing. People make it a Calvinist thing like your doing
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Every one who is a Christian has to come across the word ' predestination ' eventually . And they need to understand what the word means in context. And Election also. They both have entirely separate meanings.
 
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Predestination has nothing to do with one being saved, rather, it is concerning the future of those already saved.
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Or those that will be saved in the future...
 
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Every one who is a Christian has to come across the word ' predestination ' eventually . And they need to understand what the word means in context. And Election also. They both have entirely separate meanings.
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Yes they do. We’ve already covered that.
 
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