Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[throughfaith]

Why would you question that, when he knows the count of every hair on your head, at any given time?

It’s also the redemption of our body, ie SAVED from death and corruption.

Do you agree its the Adoption . Rom 8 .23 ? the same chapter as the so called Golden chain. ( that doesn't even mention the atonement)

 

[throughfaith]

Its the blessed hope in which God has predestined for every believer .

Do you hold to eternal security?

 

[throughfaith]

When your reading everything from preconceived ideas Or looking to attack a side sadly this is what you get. Which is why I said it’s impossible to have a meaningful conversation

Its not just me that recognises the issues with Arminism being influenced by Calvinism . Hence the video I posted .

 

[Blain]

????

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

My bad I meant Jeremiah 1:5

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Its not just me that recognises the issues with Arminism being influenced by Calvinism . Hence the video I posted .

Lol. No that’s ok I do not see the issue in Christian chat so not even sure why it’s an issue To you. Did someone upset you?

 

[throughfaith]

Lol. No that’s ok I do not see the issue in Christian chat so not even sure why it’s an issue To you. Did someone upset you?

No I appreciated it when i was made aware of my presuppositions.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No I appreciated it when i was made aware of my presuppositions.

You still have some
that’s been my point all along. That’s why you can not hear anyone when they speak

 

[OIC1965]

Do you agree its the Adoption . Rom 8 .23 ? the same chapter as the so called Golden chain. ( that doesn't even mention the atonement)

It is the adoption in that it is in a sense a MANIFESTATION of the children of God.

Romans 8:19-23

 

[Nehemiah6]

Isn’t glorification a part of salvation, ie the completion of it?

Correct. And it also includes the perfection of the saints. And that is what election and predestination are for -- "to be conformed to the image of His Son".

 

[throughfaith]

It is the adoption in that it is in a sense a MANIFESTATION of the children of God.

Romans 8:19-23

For the earnest expectation of the creation WAITS for the manifestation of the sons of God.

 

[John146]

Why would you question that, when he knows the count of every hair on your head, at any given time?

Using scripture, can you answer the question?

 

[OIC1965]

Do you hold to eternal security?

Yes

 

[throughfaith]

Yes

On what scriptual basis are you eternally secure ?

 

[OIC1965]

When did God know us?

When did God know us?

when did God set Paul apart?

Galatians 1:15

 

[OIC1965]

On what scriptual basis are you eternally secure ?

Of all that the Father gives the Son, He shall lose none.

 

[throughfaith]

Of all that the Father gives the Son, He shall lose none.

Didn't he lose you after you were chosen ? And isn't that verse before the cross ? There's no verse that says the Father draws after the cross . Just Jesus drawing ALL men .

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of all that the Father gives the Son, He shall lose none.

sadly he can’t hear you, his mind is made up.

he will continue to misrepresent you because his blinders are on

 

[throughfaith]

sadly he can’t hear you, his mind is made up.

he will continue to misrepresent you because his blinders are on

Genuine question . The Father draws before the cross . The Son draws ALL men after . The Holy spirit? no verse says he draws , at all .

 

[Nehemiah6]

Genuine question . The Father draws before the cross . The Son draws ALL men after . The Holy spirit? no verse says he draws , at all .

What kind of NONSENSE is this?

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit always act in concert*. What one does, they all do. And there is indeed a verse for the Holy Spirit. That is why I said that you have been indoctrinated by some false teacher.

*In concert = together, jointly, in cooperation.

 

[throughfaith]

What kind of NONSENSE is this?

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit always act in concert*. What one does, they all do. And there is indeed a verse for the Holy Spirit. That is why I said that you have been indoctrinated by some false teacher.

*In concert = together, jointly, in cooperation.

And you offer no verses to support that claim against me ? They do not all do the same things . Are you saying the Father has done what the Son has done? Are you saying the Father has done what the Holy Spirit has done? Did the Holy Spirit take on flesh ? Did the Holy Spirit or the Father die on the cross ?