The Holy Spirit's different roles

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Paul did not receive his revelation from Peter or any man , but by Jesus Christ . . Gal 1
11¶But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
smh, Peter and James spent time with Paul my friend. Where do you think he got the information about The resurrection of Jesus in 1 Corinthians chapter 15? did you read in Acts and gal 1:8 ?
 

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Paul did not receive his revelation from Peter or any man , but by Jesus Christ . . Gal 1
11¶But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
God used man too to teach Paul through the Holy Spirit. Barnabas James and Peter all spoke with Paul.
 

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smh, Peter and James spent time with Paul my friend. Where do you think he got the information about The resurrection of Jesus in 1 Corinthians chapter 15? did you read in Acts and gal 1:8 ?
Nope . The information about 1 cor 15 is the Gospel . This same Gospel where Paul says this .
11¶But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
 

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Nope . The information about 1 cor 15 is the Gospel . This same Gospel where Paul says this .
11¶But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
yes it is the gospel it is also a segment of the eyewitnesses literal those who saw the resurrected Lord.

He is testifying to the literal resurrection of Jesus, who was seen by over 500 people of those who are still alive to this day it says in 1cor 15:6
 

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God used man too to teach Paul through the Holy Spirit. Barnabas James and Peter all spoke with Paul.
After three years of direct revelation from Jesus himself ,and your telling me about men teaching Paul ? Which you have no verse saying anyone taught Paul . Its Paul who has the mysteries revealed to . Caught up to heaven ect ..Its Paul who has to rebuke Peter for his hypocrisy. Peter needed a vison from heaven and 10 years after Acts 2 to understand that the Holy Spirit finally was given to the Gentiles .
 

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yes it is the gospel it is also a segment of the eyewitnesses literal those who saw the resurrected Lord.

He is testifying to the literal resurrection of Jesus, who was seen by over 500 people of those who are still alive to this day it says in 1cor 15:6
You don't think Jesus mentioned that? Paul also saw the resurrected Jesus .
 

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Nope . The information about 1 cor 15 is the Gospel . This same Gospel where Paul says this .
11¶But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
You have mixed up something 1cor 15 verses 11 and 12 do not say that .

11. Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
12. Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
 

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You don't think Jesus mentioned that? Paul also saw the resurrected Jesus .
yes HE did that was what he testified in 1cor 15. But to think that Peter , james, and Barnabas did not speak of their eyewitness experience with Paul of Jesus when HE was a live ? Paul was not there when Jesus did the "Last Supper" but in 1cor chapter 11 He quoted Jesus Who told him about that event? Eyewitnesses of other eyewitness. Paul did not spend three year with Jesus on HIS earthly ministry. Peter did, and so did James.
 

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yes HE did that was what he testified in 1cor 15. But to think that Peter , james, and Barnabas did not speak of their eyewitness experience with Paul of Jesus when HE was a live ? Paul was not there when Jesus did the "Last Supper" but in 1cor chapter 11 He quoted Jesus Who told him about that event? Eyewitnesses of other eyewitness. Paul did not spend three year with Jesus on HIS earthly ministry. Peter did, and so did James.
Again your talking about things that are not written ?
 

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Again your talking about things that are not written ?
yes HE did that was what he testified in 1cor 15. But to think that Peter , james, and Barnabas did not speak of their eyewitness experience with Paul of Jesus when HE was a live ? Paul was not there when Jesus did the "Last Supper" but in 1cor chapter 11 He quoted Jesus Who told him about that event? Eyewitnesses of other eyewitness. Paul did not spend three year with Jesus on HIS earthly ministry. Peter did, and so did James.
You think The apostles understood the Gospel before mathew 27 ?
 

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You think The apostles understood the Gospel before mathew 27 ?
do you think the gospels were written before they did understand? SMH They were all saved before the gospels were her written. LOL.
 

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do you think the gospels were written before they did understand? SMH They were all saved before the gospels were her written. LOL.
You think The apostles understood the Gospel( the death burial and resurrection) before mathew 27 ?
 

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You think The apostles understood the Gospel( the death burial and resurrection) before mathew 27 ?
They fully understood Jesus words of the HIS earthly Ministry when they were in the presence of the Risen Lord. FYI they had no new testament but they did know more about what was fulfilled in the Old Testament like Isaiah 53, Pslams 22, Joel 2, and many many more. They remember that Jesus said HE was to die and three days later rise again. Yes, they did before the writing of Matthew chapter 27.
 

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They fully understood Jesus words of the HIS earthly Ministry when they were in the presence of the Risen Lord. FYI they had no new testament but they did know more about what was fulfilled in the Old Testament like Isaiah 53, Pslams 22, Joel 2, and many many more. They remember that Jesus said HE was to die and three days later rise again. Yes, they did before the writing of Matthew chapter 27.
can you demonstrate that from the scriptures please?
 

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can you demonstrate that from the scriptures please?

yes, I can for example, in scripture you will see where the Disciples remembered what Jesus said. Also, you will note that many times in the New Testament in the four Gospels They quote Old Testament Prophecies that speak directly to the Death Burial and Resurrection.


Scriptures where the disciples remembered what Jesus had said to them:
  1. Luke 24: 6-8
  2. Matt 26: 75
  3. John 2:17
  4. John 2:22
  5. John 12:16
  6. Acts 11:1

I have shown you already were in the Old Testament where Jesus had fulfilled in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Jesus Himself read from Isaiah in Luke Chapter 4:17-21
Psalms 22 on the Cross Jesus quoted verse 1 " My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " speaking of the suffering Messiah in that whole chapter of Psalms 22.

There you go. Enjoy :)
 

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can you demonstrate that from the scriptures please?
also please remember they could not write about what did not happen already :) in context to their personal experience with Jesus.
 

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yes, I can for example, in scripture you will see where the Disciples remembered what Jesus said. Also, you will note that many times in the New Testament in the four Gospels They quote Old Testament Prophecies that speak directly to the Death Burial and Resurrection.


Scriptures where the disciples remembered what Jesus had said to them:
  1. Luke 24: 6-8
  2. Matt 26: 75
  3. John 2:17
  4. John 2:22
  5. John 12:16
  6. Acts 11:1

I have shown you already were in the Old Testament where Jesus had fulfilled in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Jesus Himself read from Isaiah in Luke Chapter 4:17-21
Psalms 22 on the Cross Jesus quoted verse 1 " My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " speaking of the suffering Messiah in that whole chapter of Psalms 22.

There you go. Enjoy :)
I'm not saying that the old testament doesn't mention the death, burial and resurrection. We look back with the advantage . The diciples were told many times by Jesus about his death and resurrection and they did not understand until AFTER the crucifixion happened. They did not believe the resurrection until after the women told them even then they said it was a tale .
 

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also please remember they could not write about what did not happen already :) in context to their personal experience with Jesus.
it actually says they did not understand.
 

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also please remember they could not write about what did not happen already :) in context to their personal experience with Jesus.
24And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
25¶Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luke 24
And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

8 And they remembered his words,

9 And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.

10 It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.

11 And their words seemed to them as IDLE TALES , and they BELIEVED THEM NOT

12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, WONDERING in himself at that which was come to pass.

13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.