LIVING IN THE MILLENIA

[GraceAndTruth]

Didn't you say millennium kingdom at the start of this?
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The entire period between the ascension and return of Christ is the millennium. Christ is ruling now over a spiritual kingdom that will be immediately raptured at His return, and the new heavens and earth will then be in place.

This millennial kingdom’s temple is our bodies
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That part about Satan being bound. Are you saying Satan is bound right now? If so how do things pretty much remain the same if Satan had his hand in what's going on in the world?

He is bound from deceiving the nations.......that means he cannot hinder the gospel.
That is his main purpose - to confuse and hinder the people

Our bodies are the temple....did I not post verses for that?

 

[cv5]

Then what the first post in this discussion states is wrong? We're not living in the millennial kingdom?

Absolutely positively not. I assure you we are definitely NOT NOT NOT living in the millennial kingdom my friend. Do not be deceived by these false heresies. They are so severe that they have to be rejected.

The true nature of the millennium......see below

 

[cv5]

Didn't you say millennium kingdom at the start of this?
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The entire period between the ascension and return of Christ is the millennium. Christ is ruling now over a spiritual kingdom that will be immediately raptured at His return, and the new heavens and earth will then be in place.

This millennial kingdom’s temple is our bodies
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That part about Satan being bound. Are you saying Satan is bound right now? If so how do things pretty much remain the same if Satan had his hand in what's going on in the world?

Another heresy. Satan is definitely not bound. In fact lately God is giving giving him a longer leash IMO. In the Tribulation period Satan is UNBOUND. Satan indwells the Man of Sin. Satanic power is given to the false prophet and the beast where great signs deceive man on the earth and demons come out of the pit and all kinds of horrible things happen.

Rev 12:12
"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time."

 

[cv5]

I have to admit that was interesting I liked how he said precision is important I actually never really considered the difference in luke and mathew I thought they were similar but now I see why they seemed similar and I used that word in particular because they didn't seem quite the same

My dear friend I commend to you Chuck Missler for your continued study.
Anybody and everybody that saw that video on Luke 21 MUST AGREE that Chuck Missler is correct.

Furthermore understanding Luke 21 brings forth the staggering reality of the true nature of end-time eschatology.

 

[FrankChatter]

"Millennium" is figurative of all who are in Christ. But is specifically spoken of of those that lived during the generation prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and the judgment of the whore in that 1st century conflagration.

 

[Blain]

The Olivet Discourse in Matthew, Mark and Luke are to the same people at the same time. Whoever you are listening to is atrocious.
Amil and preterism or any of the other 'isms' are not the "most destructive heresies" - that is ridiculous. None of prophecy is imperative to know for a person to be saved. The most destructive heresy comes from those who dabble with scripture..like your atrocious friend.

I agree that understanding prophecy is not imperative for a person to be saved but in that same manner is looking at scripture also

My dear friend I commend to you Chuck Missler for your continued study.
Anybody and everybody that saw that video on Luke 21 MUST AGREE that Chuck Missler is correct.

Furthermore understanding Luke 21 brings forth the staggering reality of the true nature of end-time eschatology.

Oh that is who that was? I remember truth mentioning him in a list of people this name I knew only by name I have never watched him though. There are not many teachers I trust when it comes to bible prophecy on youtube therte are only two I found that I trust JD Faraq and Bob breaker but I will gibe him a try too.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

I agree that understanding prophecy is not imperative for a person to be saved but in that same manner is looking at scripture also
Oh that is who that was? I remember truth mentioning him in a list of people this name I knew only by name I have never watched him though. There are not many teachers I trust when it comes to bible prophecy on youtube therte are only two I found that I trust JD Faraq and Bob breaker but I will gibe him a try too.

If you need somebody to tell you what to believe...you are not ready to advance the next grade.

 

[Infinite_Ark]

If you need somebody to tell you what to believe...you are not ready to advance the next grade.

My that's harsh. Isn't this discussion you opened of that purpose? Asking those who enter to believe your perspective as pertains to living in the millennia?

 

[Infinite_Ark]

Absolutely positively not. I assure you we are definitely NOT NOT NOT living in the millennial kingdom my friend. Do not be deceived by these false heresies. They are so severe that they have to be rejected.

The true nature of the millennium......see below

Ah, I see you did mean to send me that video in your message. That's a lot to take in.
That I may understand you. You're saying what is stated at the beginning of this discussion is a heresy?

It would be so much easier to just believe in Christ and practice letting him guide the present moment to moment. It seems there are many rules to holding to the faith that as a child I was not made aware of.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

My that's harsh. Isn't this discussion you opened of that purpose? Asking those who enter to believe your perspective as pertains to living in the millennia?

My purpose was to enlighten you all of the history of the first Thanksgiving people, who they were and why they came. It was all for the glory of God, to express their faith without fear of reprisal.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

"Millennium" is figurative of all who are in Christ. But is specifically spoken of of those that lived during the generation prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and the judgment of the whore in that 1st century conflagration.

Not sure what you were trying to say, but with the first sentence being wrong, I'm not sure I want to know.

 

[Journeyman]

I just take God at his word
He said satan will no longer decieved nations period don’t add or subtract just take it seriously

Your problem is you think "nations" means "Countries". He didn't mean whole countries. He meant gentiles. For God's sake. What do you think the gospel is preached worldwide for? Is any gentile who has believed the gospel over the last 2000 years deceived anymore? Jesus said,

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mk.16:16

Its faith in Christ that binds satan from deceiving people.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Your problem is you think "nations" means "Countries". He didn't mean whole countries. He meant gentiles. For God's sake. What do you think the gospel is preached worldwide for? Is any gentile who has believed the gospel over the last 2000 years deceived anymore? Jesus said,

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mk.16:16

Its faith in Christ that binds satan from deceiving people.

Your problem is you think you can not be deceived about anything, so your adding to the word something that is not there

the word can mean gentiles or nations, you assuming it just means people, but that makes no sense, Satan is not omnipresent, he does not go around wasting his time trying to decieve people, he decieved countries, like he has been doing since the beginning, countries like the Islamic countries that prohibit and kill christians, and teaching their children against God

and the passage does not say faith in Christ stops people, it says satan is bound in the bottomless pit so he can not deceive

your missing the whole point of what is being said, christ rules, the nations live in peace, everyone knows who he is, at the end, he is freed, and immediately again gathers an army, even after people have witnessed the goodness of God for 1000 years.

 

[cv5]

Everyone here had better ask themselves the following question:
Has Isaiah ch9 and Isaiah ch11 been fulfilled? Also read Isaiah ch14.

I could provide hundreds of similar examples. There are over 1800 prophecies of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ in the OT.

Isa 60:16......See related verses at link
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/60-16.htm
You shall drink the milk of the Gentiles, And milk the breast of kings; You shall know that I, the LORD, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.

This business that the Millennial reign exists now is absurd nonsense and a heresy.
Modern Israel as a nation has only existed since 1948. They wait for the return of the King.
This is yet future but very near.

 

[cv5]

I agree that understanding prophecy is not imperative for a person to be saved but in that same manner is looking at scripture also
Oh that is who that was? I remember truth mentioning him in a list of people this name I knew only by name I have never watched him though. There are not many teachers I trust when it comes to bible prophecy on youtube therte are only two I found that I trust JD Faraq and Bob breaker but I will gibe him a try too.

When it comes to end time prophecy or the Old Testament Chuck Missler is spot on. I disagree with a couple of his other teachings, his take on Hebrews for example....couple of other issues.
But when it comes to end time prophecy Chuck Missler is one of the best.

 

[Tararose]

Satan is bound from one specific purpose (Deceiving The Nations To Battle) he isnt bound from general deception in the world as many (Falsely) claim.

This deception is seen and interpreted before your very eyes in verse 8 below.

Revelation 20:1-8KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

As is clearly seen, the 6th vial below has satan bound, and must be poured out then he is loosed,the deception he was bound from is devils in false miracles, going to the Kings of the earth, gathering them to battle.

Revelation 16:12-14KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up...

This sounds significantly more restrictive than you suggest.

I am sorry but I cannot see that it infers Jesus made sure Satan was free to roam the earth, being master of all who do not believe and deceiving everyone in every way - with the one exception of Rousing up the nations for a very specific war.

 

[Truth7t7]

When it comes to end time prophecy or the Old Testament Chuck Missler is spot on. I disagree with a couple of his other teachings, his take on Hebrews for example....couple of other issues.
But when it comes to end time prophecy Chuck Missler is one of the best.

Chuck Missler (Was) a false teacher, the Nephilim, Angel's having sex with humans is just one example.

 

[Truth7t7]

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up...

This sounds significantly more restrictive than you suggest.

I am sorry but I cannot see that it infers Jesus made sure Satan was free to roam the earth, being master of all who do not believe and deceiving everyone in every way - with the one exception of Rousing up the nations for a very specific war.

We will disagree

Scripture interprets itself, and this interpretation of (Deceive The Nations) is given in Revelation 20:7-8 below

Satan isnt bound from general deception in the world, but
(Deceiving The Nations To Battle)

Those that desire to maintian a false Millennium on this earth, disregard the interpretation before your eyes.

Revelation 20:7-8KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

[Tararose]

We will disagree

Scripture interprets itself, and this interpretation of (Deceive The Nations) is given in Revelation 20:7-8 below

Satan isnt bound from general deception in the world, but
(Deceiving The Nations To Battle)

Those that desire to maintian a false Millennium on this earth, disregard the interpretation before your eyes.

Revelation 20:7-8KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.... the common understanding of being in prison really is not backing up what you said but as you won’t address this particular verse we will just be playing tennis with our words so It is futile to attempt a discussion. Satan will be released after this period and he will then do what is written. He will go straight to the battle zone in anger because he has Been bound- literally imprisoned -for a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

This business that the Millennial reign exists now is absurd nonsense and a heresy.
Modern Israel as a nation has only existed since 1948. They wait for the return of the King.
This is yet future but very near.

Jesus Christ wont return to earth, and take a physical throne, hanging out with mortal humans as many falsely teach.

Jesus Christ warned his followers against this false teaching, he wont be found any place upon this earth

Go Not Forth, Believe It Not!

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.