Is Matthew 24 the rapture ?
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Let's examine the verses
See what THEY SAY.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
So easy
See what THEY SAY.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
So easy
No, the wicked were taken in the flood, i.e. killed. And its not a matter of half and half. Noah was just and example of those being left. While the others (wicked) were taken away in the flood.
"For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until that day Noah entered into the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and took away all; so also will be the coming of the Son of Man. Then two will be in the field: one is taken, and one is left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one is taken, and one is left. "
Business as usual! No belief or fear of the coming wrath that Noah was preaching. It will be the same right up until the church is gathered. People will be ignoring the coming wrath and the need for faith that Christians have been proclaiming right up until the church is gathered, which would be comparative to the door of the ark being shut. The flood that began afterwards is comparative to the wrath of God which will begin to take place in the form of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.
Those taken, will be taken by the angels at the end of the age and will be killed by the double-edged sword. As I stated in a previous post, Luke's version gives a little more detail, as demonstrated below:
"I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed: One will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together: One will be taken and the other left.”
“Where, Lord?” they asked.
Jesus answered, “Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.”
When the Lord says, one will be taken and the other left, the disciples as "Where, Lord?" I.e. where are they going to be taken?. Then the Lord responds with "Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.” By His response, He is referring to what happens after that group is taken, which is where they are killed with the double-edged sword and their bodies eaten by the birds.
And I saw one angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in loud a voice, saying to all the birds flying in mid-heaven, “Come, gather yourselves unto the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of commanders, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of horses and of those sitting on them, and the flesh of all, both free and slaves, and small and great.”
"And the rest were killed with the sword of the One sitting on the horse having gone forth out of his mouth.
And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
There is no such dynamic as "one taken /left " in the flood.
ALL WERE TAKEN.
ALL WERE KILLED.
NONE LEFT.
8 were saved via the ark and lifted to the sky via the flood.
But nowhere in the flood were one taken/one left.
Let the readers bear in mind that the word for "left" in those passages (G863 - aphiemi/aphethesetai/aphietai - in Matt24:40-41; Lk17:34,35,36) can carry the meaning of:
--leave alone / let be
--permit / allow / not to hinder
--forgive / remit
https://biblehub.com/greek/863.htm
...and for example, see its use in Mark 12:20, where it says,
"There were seven brothers; and the first took a wife, and dying, left [G863] no seed." [i.e. "left remaining"... (and that would be, on the earth
following a certain point in time--in that particular case, following the man's death)]
--leave alone / let be
--permit / allow / not to hinder
--forgive / remit
https://biblehub.com/greek/863.htm
...and for example, see its use in Mark 12:20, where it says,
"There were seven brothers; and the first took a wife, and dying, left [G863] no seed." [i.e. "left remaining"... (and that would be, on the earth
following a certain point in time--in that particular case, following the man's death)]Jesus pointed to the future fact and what was about to occur. Jesus was not preaching DBR as how people appropriate salvation. Nor the Dbr
the message the disciples were going around preaching. This is proved by Luke in 18 . No one was saved by Romans 10.9 nor was the good news 1 cor 15 until Rom 15 1-4 actually happened. If they had been preaching the Dbr before the dbr it would not have happened.
1 cor 2
7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Its gonna be the same at the second coming, big smiles!
The Church will be taken out of the earth, as the earth is dissolved by the Lords fire, the wicked are burned along with the earth.
Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation.
This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!
(Behold, I Make All Things New)
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.
Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.
Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.
Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Jesus did not preach d,b,r for sins before the cross. He prophesied a couple of times but His disciples understood it not because it was hid from them. However, the disciples did preach the gospel of the kingdom.
The emphasis is on taken . Not half n half . Noah and family remained.
How can you and through faith so blatantly misrepresent Gods word???
Fact...Both Jesus and Paul preached dbr
Fact...both preached the gospel of the kingdom
In the "one taken /left" HALF WERE TAKEN.
with the flood 99.9999% were taken.
You guys..."see that is the same exact dynamic"
Wow...you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DYNAMICS.
GET A BIGGER BIBLE CROW BAR. SURELY YOU CAN EITHER MODIFY THE BIBLE OR CONVINVE YOURSELF OF YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE.
"Before the flood"
Just cut that part out.
Oh wait...you just did.
.....and will keep cutting out every pretrib rapture dynamic.
You doctrine is busted.
You stand in ruins,FORCED to go against the Word Of God.
Keep saying "thank you postrib rapture teachers,you taught me well to reframe the bible"
Please post Scripture where Jesus and His disciples preached the d,b,r for sins before the cross. Thanks.
My point was clear. The word "as" makes a comparison but is not the exact thing.